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12/8/2006 3:29:45 PM EDT
[#1]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Stealth:
I figure by the time my Druid is level 30 I'll be divorced and playing WoW from my homeless shelter.


Get your wife to play, mine does.


My best friend  and his wife both play. I cant get my wife to play :(. At least most of the time I am playing WOW she is sitting next to me reading a book

Tracker, with your Fire Mage doing 25% of the raids dmg, are you all decked out in Netherwind gear? How do you throw that much dmg out there and not pull aggro of of the tanks? My main is a Arcane Mage and most times I have to throttle back my output so I don't pull the aggro.
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12/8/2006 4:51:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DVDTracker][Edited] [#2]

Originally Posted By echo6:
Tracker, with your Fire Mage doing 25% of the raids dmg, are you all decked out in Netherwind gear? How do you throw that much dmg out there and not pull aggro of of the tanks? My main is a Arcane Mage and most times I have to throttle back my output so I don't pull the aggro.


I have mostly blue gear with a few purples, all of which came from 5-10 man stuff or was crafted.  I have two points in Burning Soul which reduces my threat by 10%.  Improved Scorch is my spell of choice, combined with Ignite and Incinerate gives me more frequent but smaller crits and stackable DoTs, plus I have Combustion and use it to get guaranteed crits every three minutes.  My gear puts me at about +240 fire damage.  

Here's a recent ZG run.  We only did a couple of bosses because of time and we had some newbies.  I only pulled aggro off the tank once.


BTW, the rogue that's way down on the list (Vladislav) was only there for one boss otherwise he would have smoked everyone in damage.  He is a DPS-machine and is usually running about a 40% crit rate.  
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12/8/2006 9:09:06 PM EDT
[#3]
A good rogue can out DPS a mage, and I played a good rogue.

Its not so much keeping DPS low to control aggro as it is a tank who knows what they are doing, they are hard to find.  With a pisspoor tank anyone can pull aggro.

Ended up playing priest-tank before
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12/8/2006 11:58:53 PM EDT
[#4]

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Ended up playing priest-tank before


My mage tanked Gandling in Scholo when our warrior got teleported.  The priest shielded/healed like mad.  Gandling and I did duelling magic missles.  It was awesome.

Been tanking Strat & Scholo with my warrior.  It can be quite challenging.
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12/9/2006 12:35:06 AM EDT
[#5]
4 sunders and some shouts and I usually don't have to worry.

Aimed shot crit is a bitch sometimes though.
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12/11/2006 3:00:16 AM EDT
[#6]
The trick is to let your tank get some sunders on before putting out the dps. If you don't let them get the aggro to start, you're going to be a cloth wearing tank.
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12/11/2006 9:50:55 AM EDT
[#7]

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
The trick is to let your tank get some sunders on before putting out the dps. If you don't let them get the aggro to start, you're going to be a cloth wearing tank.


That's the main problem; people don't wait a few seconds before tearing into something.  
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12/11/2006 11:41:57 AM EDT
[#8]
Anyone have their Grand Marshall (Rank 14) weapons yet?

Damagemeter is goofed up for me.  It shows my autoshot as a different person!
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12/11/2006 3:09:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DVDTracker][Edited] [#9]
I'm about halfway to my Grand Marshal's Swiftblade, a very nice tanking weapon for my warrior.

ETA: A bunch of stuff from the Stormpike Quartermaster is pretty easy to get now.  Most of the high-end stuff is only 7000 honor and 25 AV tokens.  I have 6700 and 14 tokens just from playing since Friday evening.
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12/11/2006 5:50:32 PM EDT
[#10]
I'm considering going for some.  

I hit exhaulted with Stormpike before the patch dropped but only got 1/2 way through rank 6 so I couldn't get any armor.

I got Don Julio's ring and the AV epic ram.  It is nice that I don't have to waste money on the AV ammo anymore.  Impact bullets and Wicked arrows are really cheap and alot more DPS!
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12/11/2006 10:09:49 PM EDT
[#11]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
I'm about halfway to my Grand Marshal's Swiftblade, a very nice tanking weapon for my warrior.

ETA: A bunch of stuff from the Stormpike Quartermaster is pretty easy to get now.  Most of the high-end stuff is only 7000 honor and 25 AV tokens.  I have 6700 and 14 tokens just from playing since Friday evening.



lol that is the one I'm working for too...

then I'll get the GM shield
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12/12/2006 8:20:51 AM EDT
[#12]

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
The trick is to let your tank get some sunders on before putting out the dps. If you don't let them get the aggro to start, you're going to be a cloth wearing tank.


I shadowpriest tanked Scholo once, 5 preist group.
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12/12/2006 12:40:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alien][Edited] [#13]

Originally Posted By Jakezor:
Anyone have their Grand Marshall (Rank 14) weapons yet?

Damagemeter is goofed up for me.  It shows my autoshot as a different person!


I've got about 25k honor saved at the moment, 96 AV marks, 45 AB marks, 20 WSG marks. 20k honor to go for my 2hander! Some bastard in my guild with NO freaking life who's our main tank got his 2hander the day before yesterday. He's 22 so I don't know how he does it. He must have even less of a life than I do.
I keep it handy... for close encounters.
12/12/2006 1:14:28 PM EDT
[#14]

Originally Posted By Alien:

Originally Posted By Jakezor:
Anyone have their Grand Marshall (Rank 14) weapons yet?

Damagemeter is goofed up for me.  It shows my autoshot as a different person!


I've got about 25k honor saved at the moment, 96 AV marks, 45 AB marks, 20 WSG marks. 20k honor to go for my 2hander! Some bastard in my guild with NO freaking life who's our main tank got his 2hander the day before yesterday. He's 22 so I don't know how he does it. He must have even less of a life than I do.


Im going to go for something with lots of damage on it, damn priest gear wants me to heal
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12/12/2006 1:56:47 PM EDT
[#15]
Guys,
I got a PVP Realm question.

Since it's my understanding you can't move a character in a 'Normal' realm to a 'PVP' realm.  If that is the case do you guys just put up with the BS of other's that come along just to pick fights?  Or is that sort of thing fairly rare?
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12/12/2006 2:00:20 PM EDT
[#16]

Originally Posted By Forest:
Guys,
I got a PVP Realm question.

Since it's my understanding you can't move a character in a 'Normal' realm to a 'PVP' realm.  If that is the case do you guys just put up with the BS of other's that come along just to pick fights?  Or is that sort of thing fairly rare?



Well I always got beat down in some areas by 60s when I has 30 on one.

I have went on my Normal realm to the starter area for the horde and killed everything, sometimes a level 10 player hits me and I melt thier face
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12/12/2006 4:07:31 PM EDT
[#17]
DAMNIT! They nerfed how much honor you get by 30%!
I keep it handy... for close encounters.
12/12/2006 5:28:34 PM EDT
[#18]

Originally Posted By Alien:
DAMNIT! They nerfed how much honor you get by 30%!


Yeah, that was lovely.  Merry Christmas, signed Blizzard.  
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12/12/2006 7:46:36 PM EDT
[#19]
Yeah that honor thing is a bitch.



Sometimes I wish the Onyxia fight was longer.

Ranged DPS rules phase 2.
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12/12/2006 8:20:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bala_shark][Edited] [#20]
Skywall - Horde
60 Hunter
30 Warrior
30 Shaman
20 Druid
15 Mage
15 Priest
15 Rogue

Had the game for just under a year, play an average of 2 hours every saturday morning before all the idiots wake up, but while my real-life friends are still on.

I don't play any PvP, don't do any quests I can't solo.  The game serves as a way to spend some time with friends from college, but we all have different interests in the game so we usually aren't questing together.

I spend more time playing Morrowind and Oblivion than I do WoW, and I spend more time in various table-top RPGs (Whitewolf -- Vampire and Werewolf --and D&D, mix of 3.0 and 3.5 rulesets we refer to as D&D v. Pi) than any computer rpgs.

Yes, I do have the +20 Shirt of Smiting from thinkgeek, and keep my dice in a crown royal bag.  I also shower regularly, and hate mountain dew, so I'm not your typical gamer


ETA:  Look into the Insomniax compilation for your UI needs -- makes a nice "all-in-one" pacakge that covers the basics without needing to hunt down everything and hope they're compatable.
12/12/2006 9:10:39 PM EDT
[#21]

Originally Posted By Jakezor:
Ranged DPS rules phase 2.


Some of you party's ranged DPS was slacking.  

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12/13/2006 1:11:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jakezor][Edited] [#22]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Jakezor:
Ranged DPS rules phase 2.


Some of you party's ranged DPS was slacking.  



I know,  we needed  MORE DOTS!  I think people are afraid during phase 2.  Aggro wipe people!!  MOAR DPS!

I'm not really concerned,  I rarely die anymore, am usually in the top 5 for damage, and I already got my T2 helm.  Just need to run it enough to get the sinew and the head.

(I'm of course Gorgor)
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12/13/2006 10:59:31 AM EDT
[#23]
60 Druid on Warsong here. I rarely play now though.
12/13/2006 11:02:15 AM EDT
[#24]
For those that haven't seen it, the infamous Onyxia wipe:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxh1xlp3J_Q

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12/13/2006 11:18:17 AM EDT
[#25]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
For those that haven't seen it, the infamous Onyxia wipe:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxh1xlp3J_Q

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I got the more dots shirt for one of my friends and another got www.jinx.com/scripts/details.asp?productID=718  You no take candle! as Christmas gifts.
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12/13/2006 11:42:11 AM EDT
[#26]
60 Troll  BM Hunter on Illidan
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12/15/2006 12:47:20 PM EDT
[#27]

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
The trick is to let your tank get some sunders on before putting out the dps. If you don't let them get the aggro to start, you're going to be a cloth wearing tank.


It helps when you have your Super-Priest with you too
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12/16/2006 1:32:40 AM EDT
[#28]
Been packing orders between AV matches this evening.  20 min in the queue, 20-30 for a win, 20 min in the queue, 20-30 to win, etc.

This 22k honor grind is taking forever.
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12/16/2006 11:50:00 AM EDT
[#29]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Been packing orders between AV matches this evening.  20 min in the queue, 20-30 for a win, 20 min in the queue, 20-30 to win, etc.

This 22k honor grind is taking forever.


You aren't filling in the AV wait with AB or WSG?  Maybe no real or bonus honor but you should get a few HKs.
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12/16/2006 3:12:13 PM EDT
[#30]
I would but when you run a mail-order business, this is THE busiest time of the year, so the long breaks between AVs are welcome.  
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12/17/2006 2:16:50 PM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Been packing orders between AV matches this evening.  20 min in the queue, 20-30 for a win, 20 min in the queue, 20-30 to win, etc.

This 22k honor grind is taking forever.


Can you translate for some one that dosent yet speak jive? Im working on it..
WWAPD?!?
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12/17/2006 9:26:50 PM EDT
[#32]

Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
I just went for tier 1 was easier, tier 0.5 is a pain


I'd love to have it but our guild isn't up to the challenge.  Once BC comes out, the greens are going to be better anyway.


I've heard the same thing, so I hope it's true


Go to thottbot and click on the beta link. It has a lot of the gear you can get. some of its better. Its nothing that will make you jump like a school girl though.
12/17/2006 11:00:54 PM EDT
[#33]

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Been packing orders between AV matches this evening.  20 min in the queue, 20-30 for a win, 20 min in the queue, 20-30 to win, etc.

This 22k honor grind is taking forever.


Can you translate for some one that dosent yet speak jive? Im working on it..


AV is Alterac Valley,  one of the PVP (player versus player) battlegrounds.
You get in the queue then it summons you when your number comes up.


There are rewards you can purchase with your PVP honor points.
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12/18/2006 7:59:44 AM EDT
[#34]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Been packing orders between AV matches this evening.  20 min in the queue, 20-30 for a win, 20 min in the queue, 20-30 to win, etc.

This 22k honor grind is taking forever.



Im nearly full on AV and AB tokens, Jot my GM shoulders, Got about 5k right now building it back up
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12/18/2006 9:25:37 AM EDT
[#35]

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Im nearly full on AV and AB tokens, Jot my GM shoulders, Got about 5k right now building it back up


Gathered up all the gold between my characters, bought my 150 riding skill and got my warrior a battle charger.  

I did 3500 honor yesterday and am about 3k from my swiftblade.
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12/18/2006 9:29:24 AM EDT
[#36]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Im nearly full on AV and AB tokens, Jot my GM shoulders, Got about 5k right now building it back up


Gathered up all the gold between my characters, bought my 150 riding skill and got my warrior a battle charger.  

I did 3500 honor yesterday and am about 3k from my swiftblade.


Im nearly gnomergan exalted but even if I get there I cant get a mechanostrider.

Im working on Exodar rep now to get thier mount quickly after BC launch
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12/18/2006 10:10:20 AM EDT
[#37]

Originally Posted By Jakezor:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Been packing orders between AV matches this evening.  20 min in the queue, 20-30 for a win, 20 min in the queue, 20-30 to win, etc.

This 22k honor grind is taking forever.


Can you translate for some one that dosent yet speak jive? Im working on it..


AV is Alterac Valley,  one of the PVP (player versus player) battlegrounds.
You get in the queue then it summons you when your number comes up.


There are rewards you can purchase with your PVP honor points.


/bow

Thanks.. I'm just amazed by this game.. the graphics are not super cool like some. But its the background that constantly changes. And I have to say its the first to keep my attention span.

I saw this and had to get it..



And I got this for the wife..


And thank you for talking me into trying this game!
WWAPD?!?
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12/18/2006 10:14:02 AM EDT
[#38]

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By Jakezor:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Been packing orders between AV matches this evening.  20 min in the queue, 20-30 for a win, 20 min in the queue, 20-30 to win, etc.

This 22k honor grind is taking forever.


Can you translate for some one that dosent yet speak jive? Im working on it..


AV is Alterac Valley,  one of the PVP (player versus player) battlegrounds.
You get in the queue then it summons you when your number comes up.


There are rewards you can purchase with your PVP honor points.


/bow

Thanks.. I'm just amazed by this game.. the graphics are not super cool like some. But its the background that constantly changes. And I have to say its the first to keep my attention span.

I saw this and had to get it..
www.jinx.com/images/products/609bgBlack.jpg


And I got this for the wife..
www.jinx.com/images/products/608bgBlack.jpg

And thank you for talking me into trying this game!


I thought of getting one
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12/18/2006 10:14:46 AM EDT
[#39]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Im nearly full on AV and AB tokens, Jot my GM shoulders, Got about 5k right now building it back up


Gathered up all the gold between my characters, bought my 150 riding skill and got my warrior a battle charger.  



Does it have a HEMI?

I broke 1500 gold on my main, hard not having a gold making profession
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12/18/2006 11:46:11 AM EDT
[#40]
My wife probably has 3k gold between all her characters.  
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12/18/2006 2:44:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jakezor][Edited] [#41]

Originally Posted By Taxman:

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Im nearly full on AV and AB tokens, Jot my GM shoulders, Got about 5k right now building it back up


Gathered up all the gold between my characters, bought my 150 riding skill and got my warrior a battle charger.  

I did 3500 honor yesterday and am about 3k from my swiftblade.


Im nearly gnomergan exalted but even if I get there I cant get a mechanostrider.   edit  oh yeah gnomes and dwarves only.  

Im working on Exodar rep now to get thier mount quickly after BC launch


Can't you get a PVP Mechanostrider with tokens?


Yeah grinding up the 720 gold for 150 riding was tough for me.  Luckily most of my other money sink stuff was already purchased.  Though I still want some +15 agility encants on my weapons.

Oh and Fat_McNasty,  check out www.wowwiki.com tons of stuff to read there and www.thottbot.com is where to find info about items and quests.
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12/18/2006 2:57:26 PM EDT
[#42]

Originally Posted By Jakezor:

Originally Posted By Taxman:

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Im nearly full on AV and AB tokens, Jot my GM shoulders, Got about 5k right now building it back up


Gathered up all the gold between my characters, bought my 150 riding skill and got my warrior a battle charger.  

I did 3500 honor yesterday and am about 3k from my swiftblade.


Im nearly gnomergan exalted but even if I get there I cant get a mechanostrider.   edit  oh yeah gnomes and dwarves only.  

Im working on Exodar rep now to get thier mount quickly after BC launch


Can't you get a PVP Mechanostrider with tokens?


Yeah grinding up the 720 gold for 150 riding was tough for me.  Luckily most of my other money sink stuff was already purchased.  Though I still want some +15 agility encants on my weapons.

Oh and Fat_McNasty,  check out www.wowwiki.com tons of stuff to read there and www.thottbot.com is where to find info about items and quests.


Wont let me buy it its gnomes and Dwarves only
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12/18/2006 9:40:56 PM EDT
[#43]
Today's estimated honor, if accurate, will put me at 22.7k tomorrow and I'l have my Grand Marshal's Swiftblade.
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12/19/2006 9:30:44 AM EDT
[#44]
We have some older folks in our guild, as in grandparents old.  Last night we had one in our BRD run (geez, that takes forever), on Teamspeak and he mentioned Scholo...  "I still need to go in there and get Kruschev's bag of horrors."

 I lost it but didn't say anything.  
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12/19/2006 9:47:03 AM EDT
[#45]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Today's estimated honor, if accurate, will put me at 22.7k tomorrow and I'l have my Grand Marshal's Swiftblade.


Olny 2k honor for me yesterday, had to help my cousin with ZF, twice.  Did hit Exodar Honored
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12/19/2006 11:24:24 AM EDT
[#46]
Still have a way to go to get the 22.5K honr for the warrior. The big problem is my rogue just hit 60 so I need to do stuff to get him gear as well.  


Just never enough time.
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12/19/2006 11:35:17 AM EDT
[#47]
WORLD OF WAR-CRACK


Until we start looking at liberals as our ENEMIES, as opposed to those just having a different opinion, we will always lose.
12/19/2006 12:07:07 PM EDT
[#48]

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:
Today's estimated honor, if accurate, will put me at 22.7k tomorrow and I'l have my Grand Marshal's Swiftblade.


I'm 7k away from my GM Claymore. Even in an organized group it's tough to get honor. It takes about 10-15 minutes to queue for AV and AB on my server. Sometimes AB goes below 10 minutes. Sometimes AV goes above 20. Doing WSG or AB without a premade group is pointless unless you just want the tokens. You will get steamrolled by an opposing premade group 9 times out of 10.
I keep it handy... for close encounters.
12/19/2006 12:09:40 PM EDT
[#49]

Originally Posted By Taxman:

Originally Posted By DVDTracker:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Im nearly full on AV and AB tokens, Jot my GM shoulders, Got about 5k right now building it back up


Gathered up all the gold between my characters, bought my 150 riding skill and got my warrior a battle charger.  



Does it have a HEMI?

I broke 1500 gold on my main, hard not having a gold making profession


What are you doing for money Taxman? I need to payback a friend 700 gold that I borrowed to do my riding skill training for my new PVP mount.
I keep it handy... for close encounters.
12/19/2006 12:11:12 PM EDT
[#50]
I usually queue up for AV in Stormwind and farm Stockades between matches.  Nothing spectacular drops in there, but some decent greens and cloth mats adds up eventually.
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