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8/28/2016 2:34:49 PM EDT
I have two 21 inch monitors now I use that I would like to break down to one 27 inch.  Maybe a hair bigger.  What would your suggestions for balance of cost vs quality be?
8/28/2016 2:41:44 PM EDT
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What applications will you be using it for? What resolution and what GPU?
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minor video editing.  web surfing and I play arma 3 on occasion with my brother.

I have an 5 or 6 year old alien ware desktop now that I want to upgrade at some point in the future and figured I would start with the monitor.
8/28/2016 4:04:17 PM EDT
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Go on amazon, look at the Asus monitors.  Look for the good reviews, read the bad ones.  Make your decision.

I have a 27 inch and a 23.5 inch sitting next to it.
8/28/2016 4:10:59 PM EDT
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minor video editing.  web surfing and I play arma 3 on occasion with my brother.

I have an 5 or 6 year old alien ware desktop now that I want to upgrade at some point in the future and figured I would start with the monitor.
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minor video editing.  web surfing and I play arma 3 on occasion with my brother.

I have an 5 or 6 year old alien ware desktop now that I want to upgrade at some point in the future and figured I would start with the monitor.


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Go on amazon, look at the Asus monitors.  Look for the good reviews, read the bad ones.  Make your decision.

I have a 27 inch and a 23.5 inch sitting next to it.


This. Also look at Acer ( I have one of their gaming monitors). BenQ is good as well.
8/28/2016 9:18:06 PM EDT
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Dell

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1254756&gclid=CI_X34O65c4CFUFkhgodaawMZw&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C92051678882%2C&Q=&A=details
8/29/2016 8:58:40 PM EDT
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At that size, I'd look hard at going 1440 vs 1080, if your system can drive it.  With a 27" 1080 at close viewing distances I found the pixels really starting to stand out.
8/30/2016 1:57:02 PM EDT
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I have 2 benq monitors and have been very happy with them. they're very highly rated.

http://gaming.benq.com/gaming-monitor/xl2730z
8/30/2016 3:50:11 PM EDT
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This is the monitor that I use currently and I love it.

Dell S2716GD 27" Gaming Monitor

NVIDIA G-Sync
WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution
144 Hz Refresh Rate
1ms Response Time
Display Port, HDMI, USB

8/30/2016 11:27:32 PM EDT
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Dell S2716GD 27" Gaming Monitor

NVIDIA G-Sync
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144 Hz Refresh Rate
1ms Response Time
Display Port, HDMI, USB

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TN.  
8/31/2016 12:21:10 AM EDT
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This is the monitor that I use currently and I love it.

Dell S2716GD 27" Gaming Monitor

NVIDIA G-Sync
WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution
144 Hz Refresh Rate
1ms Response Time
Display Port, HDMI, USB

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/24-260-333-05.jpg



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And any IPS panel with those specs is going to be $300+ above this one.
8/31/2016 1:51:19 AM EDT
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And any IPS panel with those specs is going to be $300+ above this one.
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This is the monitor that I use currently and I love it.

Dell S2716GD 27" Gaming Monitor

NVIDIA G-Sync
WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution
144 Hz Refresh Rate
1ms Response Time
Display Port, HDMI, USB

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/24-260-333-05.jpg



TN.  


And any IPS panel with those specs is going to be $300+ above this one.

IPS is so worth it though. I'm never going back to TN. One of the things I hated most about TN panels was the inconsistent application of darkness. You needed to be at an odd viewing angle of you experienced unintended darkening.

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8/31/2016 5:54:26 PM EDT
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You might as well go full retard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236343&ignorebbr=1
8/31/2016 6:53:56 PM EDT
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Ok so looking at some of the stuff that has been said I was looking at the benq's.  Someone local had suggested the company but I don't know what most of the stuff means.  I would rather have someone who knows what is going on fill me in and make a quick correction rather than trying to decipher what every thing means.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014383&cm_re=benq-_-24-014-383-_-Product
what are the thoughts on this particular monitor.  Is there another monitor that compares in price but is better in performance?
8/31/2016 7:49:23 PM EDT
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Ok so looking at some of the stuff that has been said I was looking at the benq's.  Someone local had suggested the company but I don't know what most of the stuff means.  I would rather have someone who knows what is going on fill me in and make a quick correction rather than trying to decipher what every thing means.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014383&cm_re=benq-_-24-014-383-_-Product
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It's a good overall monitor.  Unlikely you will find anything better in that price range.
9/1/2016 2:40:37 PM EDT
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I'm very happy with this 27" 4K LG IPS panel it was on sale for $399 when I bought it, I'd still purchase at $449. Games look amazing.
9/2/2016 7:17:48 PM EDT
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Newegg has the updated version (ASUS 27" IPS LED backlit @144hz)  of my monitor on sale for $489. I have the older 60Hz version and it's amazing.

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=24-236-466&utm_source=Bluecore&utm_medium=BehEmail&utm_campaign=Price_Drop&cm_mmc=EMCPD-092016-_-PD-_-Bluecore-_-Content&obem=09LAKXRgAQpKZOafnbbW4bY-Tiph33ydWrehT5aAtZY%3D

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9/2/2016 10:19:07 PM EDT
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I still don't see where the OP specified if he is running Nvidia or AMD.
9/4/2016 5:13:07 PM EDT
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IPS is so worth it though. I'm never going back to TN. One of the things I hated most about TN panels was the inconsistent application of darkness. You needed to be at an odd viewing angle of you experienced unintended darkening.

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This is the monitor that I use currently and I love it.

Dell S2716GD 27" Gaming Monitor

NVIDIA G-Sync
WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution
144 Hz Refresh Rate
1ms Response Time
Display Port, HDMI, USB

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/24-260-333-05.jpg



TN.  


And any IPS panel with those specs is going to be $300+ above this one.

IPS is so worth it though. I'm never going back to TN. One of the things I hated most about TN panels was the inconsistent application of darkness. You needed to be at an odd viewing angle of you experienced unintended darkening.

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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.
9/4/2016 5:22:33 PM EDT
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One of my favorite purchases was a QNIX 1440p monitor. I will not go lower than a 1440p monitor after using this thing. You can also over clock it as well.

The model is QNIX 2710.


I am upgrading to a Asus ROG PG348Q, can't wait (subtle brag)
9/4/2016 8:57:28 PM EDT
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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.
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This is the monitor that I use currently and I love it.

Dell S2716GD 27" Gaming Monitor

NVIDIA G-Sync
WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution
144 Hz Refresh Rate
1ms Response Time
Display Port, HDMI, USB

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/24-260-333-05.jpg



TN.  


And any IPS panel with those specs is going to be $300+ above this one.

IPS is so worth it though. I'm never going back to TN. One of the things I hated most about TN panels was the inconsistent application of darkness. You needed to be at an odd viewing angle of you experienced unintended darkening.

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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.


Not true.  The only advantage TN has is response times and that is a bit overrated.
9/4/2016 9:03:33 PM EDT
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Definitely 1 27 inch seems better to me than 2 21s.   I have a 27" Acer and love it.  Plenty of real estate to do everything I need, even multi windows.
9/5/2016 2:46:43 PM EDT
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Not true.  The only advantage TN has is response times and that is a bit overrated.
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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.


Not true.  The only advantage TN has is response times and that is a bit overrated.


True.  TN still has better blacks and is faster.  IPS has better color, but the accuracy is so good for either it's beyond human eye calibration.  I just bought a 28' 4K monitor about 6 months ago.  Scoured reviews, IMed some dudes on other sites that had displays I was looking at.  TN still has better blacks.  

The black on this Samsung monitor is awesome.  Was clearly better than the IPS offerings from Dell, LG, Asus, and forgot what else.

Like I posted before, not one type is superior across all applications.  If that were the case, TN panels would have died years ago.

Only ragret I sorta have is that it's not G-sync, but options were limited at the time and now I have Pascal Titans to fix any framerate issues.  
9/6/2016 4:05:34 AM EDT
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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.
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This is the monitor that I use currently and I love it.

Dell S2716GD 27" Gaming Monitor

NVIDIA G-Sync
WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution
144 Hz Refresh Rate
1ms Response Time
Display Port, HDMI, USB

http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/24-260-333-05.jpg



TN.  


And any IPS panel with those specs is going to be $300+ above this one.

IPS is so worth it though. I'm never going back to TN. One of the things I hated most about TN panels was the inconsistent application of darkness. You needed to be at an odd viewing angle of you experienced unintended darkening.

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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.

My previous monitor was a nicer Samsung 24" TN display. I had to be above a straight on view of it or the screen was darkened noticeably. It was very irritating in dark games which made it very difficult to see. I can lower or raise or tilt my IPS monitor however I like and it doesn't have that issue.

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My previous monitor was a nicer Samsung 24" TN display. I had to be above a straight on view of it or the screen was darkened noticeably. It was very irritating in dark games which made it very difficult to see. I can lower or raise or tilt my IPS monitor however I like and it doesn't have that issue.

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You wouldn't be playing a flight sim of some sort, and moving your head around a lot?  I've done that.  

It's better on a 4K monitor.  So are the colors as well.  The colors change, but I have to be at a very extreme angle, like not in front of the computer.  I bought mine and had mine sent to the store, so that if I didn't like anything about it I could just return it at the store.  Color uniformity across the screen was one of the things I was looking at.  I kept it.  
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True.  TN still has better blacks and is faster.  IPS has better color, but the accuracy is so good for either it's beyond human eye calibration.  I just bought a 28' 4K monitor about 6 months ago.  Scoured reviews, IMed some dudes on other sites that had displays I was looking at.  TN still has better blacks.  

The black on this Samsung monitor is awesome.  Was clearly better than the IPS offerings from Dell, LG, Asus, and forgot what else.

Like I posted before, not one type is superior across all applications.  If that were the case, TN panels would have died years ago.

Only ragret I sorta have is that it's not G-sync, but options were limited at the time and now I have Pascal Titans to fix any framerate issues.  
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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.


Not true.  The only advantage TN has is response times and that is a bit overrated.


True.  TN still has better blacks and is faster.  IPS has better color, but the accuracy is so good for either it's beyond human eye calibration.  I just bought a 28' 4K monitor about 6 months ago.  Scoured reviews, IMed some dudes on other sites that had displays I was looking at.  TN still has better blacks.  

The black on this Samsung monitor is awesome.  Was clearly better than the IPS offerings from Dell, LG, Asus, and forgot what else.

Like I posted before, not one type is superior across all applications.  If that were the case, TN panels would have died years ago.

Only ragret I sorta have is that it's not G-sync, but options were limited at the time and now I have Pascal Titans to fix any framerate issues.  


If that were true why are nearly all good displays on smartphones, tablets and computers (desktop monitor/laptop monitor) not TN based.  And why is TN reserved for the cheapest examples of the devices previously listed?

TN sticks around because it is the cheapest type of LCD to make.  Also because people continue to buy them .(and not just a small subset of pc gamers)
9/7/2016 1:55:40 PM EDT
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If that were true why are nearly all good displays on smartphones, tablets and computers (desktop monitor/laptop monitor) not TN based.  And why is TN reserved for the cheapest examples of the devices previously listed?

TN sticks around because it is the cheapest type of LCD to make.  Also because people continue to buy them .(and not just a small subset of pc gamers)
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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.


Not true.  The only advantage TN has is response times and that is a bit overrated.


True.  TN still has better blacks and is faster.  IPS has better color, but the accuracy is so good for either it's beyond human eye calibration.  I just bought a 28' 4K monitor about 6 months ago.  Scoured reviews, IMed some dudes on other sites that had displays I was looking at.  TN still has better blacks.  

The black on this Samsung monitor is awesome.  Was clearly better than the IPS offerings from Dell, LG, Asus, and forgot what else.

Like I posted before, not one type is superior across all applications.  If that were the case, TN panels would have died years ago.

Only ragret I sorta have is that it's not G-sync, but options were limited at the time and now I have Pascal Titans to fix any framerate issues.  


If that were true why are nearly all good displays on smartphones, tablets and computers (desktop monitor/laptop monitor) not TN based.  And why is TN reserved for the cheapest examples of the devices previously listed?

TN sticks around because it is the cheapest type of LCD to make.  Also because people continue to buy them .(and not just a small subset of pc gamers)


Meh, all IPS panels are not created equal just like all TN panels are not created equal.  

OP, depending upon your application, pick the size, resolution & budget and look at monitor reviews.  You'll find the answer might be IPS, might be TN.  Blindly going for one tech over the other is what leads to poor purchases.
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Meh, all IPS panels are not created equal just like all TN panels are not created equal.  

OP, depending upon your application, pick the size, resolution & budget and look at monitor reviews.  You'll find the answer might be IPS, might be TN.  Blindly going for one tech over the other is what leads to poor purchases.
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Huh?  Looking straight on should be good.

For a monitor, the viewing angle thing is overrrated - how much you move your head around sitting at the computer?  I'm betting not much.  Not like a TV, where you have multiple people at different angles.

TN has advantages, they're faster with better blacks and contrast.  The IPS models I've looked at always had washed out blacks in comparison, I hate that.

There's also personal preference and not one type is the best for all applications.


Not true.  The only advantage TN has is response times and that is a bit overrated.


True.  TN still has better blacks and is faster.  IPS has better color, but the accuracy is so good for either it's beyond human eye calibration.  I just bought a 28' 4K monitor about 6 months ago.  Scoured reviews, IMed some dudes on other sites that had displays I was looking at.  TN still has better blacks.  

The black on this Samsung monitor is awesome.  Was clearly better than the IPS offerings from Dell, LG, Asus, and forgot what else.

Like I posted before, not one type is superior across all applications.  If that were the case, TN panels would have died years ago.

Only ragret I sorta have is that it's not G-sync, but options were limited at the time and now I have Pascal Titans to fix any framerate issues.  


If that were true why are nearly all good displays on smartphones, tablets and computers (desktop monitor/laptop monitor) not TN based.  And why is TN reserved for the cheapest examples of the devices previously listed?

TN sticks around because it is the cheapest type of LCD to make.  Also because people continue to buy them .(and not just a small subset of pc gamers)


Meh, all IPS panels are not created equal just like all TN panels are not created equal.  

OP, depending upon your application, pick the size, resolution & budget and look at monitor reviews.  You'll find the answer might be IPS, might be TN.  Blindly going for one tech over the other is what leads to poor purchases.


Okay then. Show me an objective review of an TN lcd with hard numbers/data on black levels and contrast ratio to prove your claim.
9/7/2016 9:55:13 PM EDT
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I wish someone would just say buy this one right here it is on sale and is perfect.  I hate trying to figure out tech that I don't know shit about.  Amazon sent me a thing about ips 27 inch led stuff for 190 bucks today but the resolution was 1080 and not 1440 so I passed.
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I wish someone would just say buy this one right here it is on sale and is perfect.  I hate trying to figure out tech that I don't know shit about.  Amazon sent me a thing about ips 27 inch led stuff for 190 bucks today but the resolution was 1080 and not 1440 so I passed.
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What GPU are you using? This would be extremely helpful in recommending a monitor.

If Nvidia, I would say go with an Acer XB270HU for what you will be using it for. Excellent 27", 1440p, G Sync,  IPS gaming monitor. Comes with a bit of a price tag though. Newegg has it listed at $599 but is out of stock right now. I bought one of these monitors when they dropped and haven't looked back since.

If AMD, maybe someone else could join in if you're interested in the Free Sync side of things.

As for IPS vs. TN...I would go with an IPS. You will never notice the difference in lag input times but you will notice the difference in color between the panels. I speak from experience here and not some internet article...
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I wish someone would just say buy this one right here it is on sale and is perfect.  I hate trying to figure out tech that I don't know shit about.  Amazon sent me a thing about ips 27 inch led stuff for 190 bucks today but the resolution was 1080 and not 1440 so I passed.
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here - this monitor is badass, and consistently rated one of the best 144hz gaming monitors on the market, along with one of the Asus ones that's been mentioned in this thread.

https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2730Z-Monitor-Resolution-FreeSync/dp/B00TUK9D9K

I play with a few other guys with benqs and everyone is very happy with them. I have 2 of their 27" monitors - one is 75hz and one is 144hz. they're both great monitors with great customization options.

read the amazon reviews.
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Okay then. Show me an objective review of an TN lcd with hard numbers/data on black levels and contrast ratio to prove your claim.
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Meh, all IPS panels are not created equal just like all TN panels are not created equal.  

OP, depending upon your application, pick the size, resolution & budget and look at monitor reviews.  You'll find the answer might be IPS, might be TN.  Blindly going for one tech over the other is what leads to poor purchases.


Okay then. Show me an objective review of an TN lcd with hard numbers/data on black levels and contrast ratio to prove your claim.


I'm not buying a monitor, so I'm not going to do the homework for you.  I don't care about inflated contrast numbers, backlight bleed is a problem more common among IPS monitors.  It's a bigger problem among cheaper IPS monitors - and most people don't want to drop the coin on what a good IPS panel really costs.

When I went shopping last year in my price range, all the IPS monitors suffered from far more backlight bleed than the TN monitor I eventually bought.  I don't care what kind of contrast you claim to have if it's only black in the middle of the monitor.  

I REALLY wanted to like an ultra wide IPS monitor, not exactly cheap either but the backlight bleed sucked bad.  Couldn't keep it.

Maybe I sounded like TN fanboy, I'm not.  Bottom line, consider your application, pick the size, resolution & budget and look at monitor reviews (pro & user).
10/4/2016 6:06:16 PM EDT
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I'm using the ASUS ROG SWIFT PG278Q and love the fuckers.
10/5/2016 6:41:42 PM EDT
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One of my favorite purchases was a QNIX 1440p monitor. I will not go lower than a 1440p monitor after using this thing. You can also over clock it as well.

The model is QNIX 2710.


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Came here to post this...My Qnix is overclocked to 96hz but can do 120hz, great screen.
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I have 2 benq monitors and have been very happy with them. they're very highly rated.

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I have the 32" Benq.  It's really nice - not quite as nice as the 27" retina display on the iMac, but it's adequate for CAD work.

I have a 27" samsung tv/monitor also, I use it as a remote monitor for my laptop hooked up to the HDMI / mini DP port on my old MBP.  It's been pretty good.


10/5/2016 6:52:58 PM EDT
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I'm on a 32" Dynex monitor that was about $120 bucks 4-5 years ago. I want dual 32's.