[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Im weak. (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/12/2009 3:07:45 PM EDT
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I need motivation.
And a plan. I'll just be using my own body weight, Current sad state: Im 5'11 and 154 pounds. I look like shit. Is there a such thing as a Progressive Body weight workout plan? (it gets Slightly harder everyday?) I need cardio and muscle mass. My day consists of the following: Morning No breakfast, Lunch usually Fast food, dinner Home Cooked meal with Meat Veggies and Carbs. I usually just work ( i work retail) then come home and surf the web and then play Xbox live with fellow arfcommers. Goal: Be able to do 50+ good Pushups in one go. Get rid of oblique fat. Bigger shoulders and chest. Be able to run a mile in a decent time (determined by Arfcom) SO im thinking : Wide pushups for chest and thin pushups for triceps (both will work shoulders right?) Burpees for cardio/ Lower body. SLOW situps or crunches for abs. I read about the "ab vacuum" its where you exhale all your air then simply squeeze your ab muscles for as long as you can. Is that BS? lol Thanks for the help guys, |
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It would be far better, and likely more efficient, to hit a gym and do weight training, but you can try the program outlined in http://www.simplefit.org/, too. The basic one is really basic, the advanced perhaps a bit more practical, but I suppose it depends on your starting point.
But you say you are 5'11" 154lbs and need to lose fat? Skinny-fat sort of body type, I guess? If you were doing weight training with your goal of gaining mass, I'd say just eat what you want and grow for a bit, but not sure what to tell you within your equipment (or lack thereof) limitations. I don't think you'll be able to put on the lean mass without weights to support that sort of plan, so I'd say you need to be more careful on the diet front - i.e., you want to be eating some sort of breakfast and replace the fast food lunches. |
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Yea im skinny-but im fat.
Nerd body type lol I think that if i can just do the body weight stuff and work really hard at it, and do them with good form i may be able to pull it off. I think im gonna make a "journal" on my computer of my workouts and record everything i do just in case this works. Thanks for the help and the link! |
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My major problem is i always TALK about getting fit. But never seem to DO it. Anyone here ever have that problem and have any tips for overcoming it? Im thinking the USMC would whip me into shape.lol IMO, anytime I start a workout regimen, I am motivated to continue with it for the simple fact that you make gains and you don't want to lose the gains. So, just take the first step and let it snowball from there. |
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My major problem is i always TALK about getting fit. But never seem to DO it. Anyone here ever have that problem and have any tips for overcoming it? Im thinking the USMC would whip me into shape.lol Just fucking do it. Talking about it on the internet won't help you any. Do something. Quit typing and playing games and other time wasting shit. |
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No one can do it for you, so you'll need to find that motivation you've been missing.
Set small goals in order to not become overwhelmed or disappointed. Don't look ahead to being a mass monster, or boosting your lifts by 100 pounds. Focus on tomorrow, put one foot in front of the other and make the promise to yourself that you will see this thru. The best thing about fitness and diet for me is it's completely up to me. Personal fitness isn't a team sport. You either become a champion or a failure entirely on your own. Your success rests in your hands and yours alone. No one can MAKE you cheat, no one can MAKE you slack on lift days, no one can MAKE you fail but you. Push yourself and see what you're made of. With that said work first on your diet, what you're eating now and when you're eating it is not adequate. Take a look at "The Zone" diet and max out the blocks they provide for daily food intake. Eat clean, eat frequently and eat smart. In order to change your body you'll need food, rest and physical activity. All three have to work together, they are all of equal importance to your success. Good luck! Start here.... http://www.zonediet.com/EATING/Overview/tabid/79/Default.aspx http://www.crossfit.com/ |
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No one can do it for you, so you'll need to find that motivation you've been missing. Set small goals in order to not become overwhelmed or disappointed. Don't look ahead to being a mass monster, or boosting your lifts by 100 pounds. Focus on tomorrow, put one foot in front of the other and make the promise to yourself that you will see this thru. The best thing about fitness and diet for me is it's completely up to me. Personal fitness isn't a team sport. You either become a champion or a failure entirely on your own. Your success rests in your hands and yours alone. No one can MAKE you cheat, no one can MAKE you slack on lift days, no one can MAKE you fail but you. Push yourself and see what you're made of. With that said work first on your diet, what you're eating now and when you're eating it is not adequate. Take a look at "The Zone" diet and max out the blocks they provide for daily food intake. Eat clean, eat frequently and eat smart. In order to change your body you'll need food, rest and physical activity. All three have to work together, they are all of equal importance to your success. Good luck! Start here.... http://www.zonediet.com/EATING/Overview/tabid/79/Default.aspx http://www.crossfit.com/ Well that was fun. Today was day 1. I started up and started to get tired, but then i figured ah what the hell might as well keep going. Every time i got tired from 1 thing i didnt just quit and go on to the next i squeezed 3-5 more out (in terrible form) then went to the next one. BUT i came back and then tried again and had succes. My goal was basically to just NOT stop until i could not do ANY more of anything. Im all sweaty and i feel great, tired, but great. I wish i would have read the post i quoted before working out though, that was pretty inspiring. Now i guess i just need to make this part of my routine. |
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Goal #1: Get better at push ups.
Answer: Do push ups. Goal #2: Lose stomach fat Answer: Run and do sit ups. Goal #3: Bigger shoulders and chest Answer: Do more push ups Goal #4: Be a good runner Answer: Run And go! There a shitload of exercises you can do with nothing but a pair of running shoes: Push ups (regular, wide arm, narrow arm, diamond, on your knuckles) Sit ups Crunches Flutter kicks Static abs Bicycles Jumping jacks Squats Lunges Sprints Running Run stairs Bear crawls and backwards bear crawls up stairs (great upper body workout) And many, many more. Make a simple plan and use simple routines. Pick days to be heavy upper body, days to be long runs, days to be medium upper body and sprints, etc. If you want a few basic plans, here's a few: Perform "X" number of push ups. Perform "X" number of sit ups. Perform "X-1" number of push ups. Perform "X-1" number of sit ups. Repeat until you're down to zero. The way I do it is starting at 25 repetitions. It takes me ~18 minutes to do it, and I do it for time to push myself. Works out to 325 push ups and 325 sit ups when starting with sets of 25. Now go run for the rest of your hour work out and you're done. If you want a program specifically aimed at push up improvement: First, figure out how many push ups you can do without leaving the push up position in ~2 minutes. Now divide that number by half, that's your "number" for our purposes: Perform "your number" push ups in 35 seconds. Rest one minute. Perform "your number" push ups in 45 seconds. Rest one minute. Perform "your number + 10" push ups in however long it takes. Rest one minute. Perform as many sit ups as you can. Rest one minute. Perform "your number" push ups in 35 seconds. Rest one minute. Perform "your number" push ups in 45 seconds. Rest one minute. Perform "your number +10" push ups in however long it takes. Rest one minute. Perform as many sit ups as you can. That program is aimed at upping the # of push ups you can do in a single set. I can't take credit for it, some CPT put out a little PT improvement book that I got it out of. It works well. |
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Dude wants to gain mass and ya'll are advocating push-ups? What do you suggest he do, lift air? He doesn't have access to weights. And push ups put muscle on as well. The guy wants to be muscular and fit, not puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car. |
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I need motivation. And a plan. I'll just be using my own body weight, Current sad state: Im 5'11 and 154 pounds. I look like shit. Is there a such thing as a Progressive Body weight workout plan? (it gets Slightly harder everyday?) I need cardio and muscle mass. My day consists of the following: Morning No breakfast, Lunch usually Fast food, dinner Home Cooked meal with Meat Veggies and Carbs. I usually just work ( i work retail) then come home and surf the web and then play Xbox live with fellow arfcommers. Goal: Be able to do 50+ good Pushups in one go. Get rid of oblique fat. Bigger shoulders and chest. Be able to run a mile in a decent time (determined by Arfcom) SO im thinking : Wide pushups for chest and thin pushups for triceps (both will work shoulders right?) Burpees for cardio/ Lower body. SLOW situps or crunches for abs. I read about the "ab vacuum" its where you exhale all your air then simply squeeze your ab muscles for as long as you can. Is that BS? lol Thanks for the help guys, BTW your diet sucks. Eat breakfast, stop eating fast food and stop eating so many carbs and vegetables. Eggs, cottage cheese, milk, chicken and beef are your friends. |
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Dude wants to gain mass and ya'll are advocating push-ups? What do you suggest he do, lift air? He doesn't have access to weights. And push ups put muscle on as well. The guy wants to be muscular and fit, not puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car. I suggest he joins a gym, if he's not too busy surfing the web or playing video games. Maybe he could save money for a membership by not eating fucking fast food for lunch everyday. And how the hell did you come up with, "puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car?" Hilarious. |
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I need motivation. And a plan. I'll just be using my own body weight, Current sad state: Im 5'11 and 154 pounds. I look like shit. Is there a such thing as a Progressive Body weight workout plan? (it gets Slightly harder everyday?) I need cardio and muscle mass. My day consists of the following: Morning No breakfast, Lunch usually Fast food, dinner Home Cooked meal with Meat Veggies and Carbs. I usually just work ( i work retail) then come home and surf the web and then play Xbox live with fellow arfcommers. Goal: Be able to do 50+ good Pushups in one go. Get rid of oblique fat. Bigger shoulders and chest. Be able to run a mile in a decent time (determined by Arfcom) SO im thinking : Wide pushups for chest and thin pushups for triceps (both will work shoulders right?) Burpees for cardio/ Lower body. SLOW situps or crunches for abs. I read about the "ab vacuum" its where you exhale all your air then simply squeeze your ab muscles for as long as you can. Is that BS? lol Thanks for the help guys, BTW your diet sucks. Eat breakfast, stop eating fast food and stop eating so many carbs and vegetables. Eggs, cottage cheese, milk, chicken and beef are your friends. Ill cut the carbs, but im keeping the veggies, gotta shit somehow. lol |
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Dude wants to gain mass and ya'll are advocating push-ups? What do you suggest he do, lift air? He doesn't have access to weights. And push ups put muscle on as well. The guy wants to be muscular and fit, not puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car. I suggest he joins a gym, if he's not too busy surfing the web or playing video games. Maybe he could save money for a membership by not eating fucking fast food for lunch everyday. And how the hell did you come up with, "puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car?" Hilarious. Thank you for Your help. 
And hes right, i dont really want to get "big". I just want to feel better and look better. I dont plan on taking any "supplements" either. Im gonna go buy some dumbells tomorrow, Ill start off small 10lbers and 20lbers. I could probably use those for aLOT of diff exercises. |
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Dude wants to gain mass and ya'll are advocating push-ups? What do you suggest he do, lift air? He doesn't have access to weights. And push ups put muscle on as well. The guy wants to be muscular and fit, not puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car. I suggest he joins a gym, if he's not too busy surfing the web or playing video games. Maybe he could save money for a membership by not eating fucking fast food for lunch everyday. And how the hell did you come up with, "puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car?" Hilarious. Thank you for Your help.
And hes right, i dont really want to get "big". I just want to feel better and look better. I dont plan on taking any "supplements" either. Im gonna go buy some dumbells tomorrow, Ill start off small 10lbers and 20lbers. I could probably use those for aLOT of diff exercises. With an adjustable bench and a dumbbell set you can do a lot, considering your goals. Like I said...Buy This Don't be scared by the bodybuilding title. It is helpful for ANYONE wanting to look and feel better. If you're not interested in listening to the man who had the greatest physique of all-time, I don't know what to tell you. |
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Oatmeal is a good way to get fiber AND protein, but you have to load up on the protein man! Milk + protein powder + peanut butter.
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I need motivation. And a plan. I'll just be using my own body weight, Current sad state: Im 5'11 and 154 pounds. I look like shit. Is there a such thing as a Progressive Body weight workout plan? (it gets Slightly harder everyday?) I need cardio and muscle mass. My day consists of the following: Morning No breakfast, Lunch usually Fast food, dinner Home Cooked meal with Meat Veggies and Carbs. I usually just work ( i work retail) then come home and surf the web and then play Xbox live with fellow arfcommers. Goal: Be able to do 50+ good Pushups in one go. Get rid of oblique fat. Bigger shoulders and chest. Be able to run a mile in a decent time (determined by Arfcom) SO im thinking : Wide pushups for chest and thin pushups for triceps (both will work shoulders right?) Burpees for cardio/ Lower body. SLOW situps or crunches for abs. I read about the "ab vacuum" its where you exhale all your air then simply squeeze your ab muscles for as long as you can. Is that BS? lol Thanks for the help guys, BTW your diet sucks. Eat breakfast, stop eating fast food and stop eating so many carbs and vegetables. Eggs, cottage cheese, milk, chicken and beef are your friends. Ill cut the carbs, but im keeping the veggies, gotta shit somehow. lol |
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Dude wants to gain mass and ya'll are advocating push-ups? What do you suggest he do, lift air? He doesn't have access to weights. And push ups put muscle on as well. The guy wants to be muscular and fit, not puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car. I suggest he joins a gym, if he's not too busy surfing the web or playing video games. Maybe he could save money for a membership by not eating fucking fast food for lunch everyday. And how the hell did you come up with, "puffy and bloated but able to bench a small car?" Hilarious. Thank you for Your help.
And hes right, i dont really want to get "big". I just want to feel better and look better. I dont plan on taking any "supplements" either. Im gonna go buy some dumbells tomorrow, Ill start off small 10lbers and 20lbers. I could probably use those for aLOT of diff exercises. You will not get big. This I can guarantee. 99% of long time weight lifters do not look like guys on the cover of muscle magazines. If you want mass, you have to go low on reps and high on weight. Trust me, get Mark Rippetoe's starting strength. You will pack on the pounds and not gain a single inch on your waist. |
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Skinnydude here. 6'1", 145 pounds.
I highly suggest you find a physical activity that you're interested in and dive in. For me, the catalyst was joining a boxing gym and starting up Judo. When you're doing these activities regularly, you will get a "kick start". Going to a class or sport helps because you have a structure and a coach to follow. Not only that, but you may attain a better idea of what workouts will help you even when you're not in class - I gained a great series of bodyweight exercises from boxing that I use at home. This will give you a baseline level of fitness which you may or may not expand as you get more into the sport. I actually began lifting because I wanted to help my Judo game, while my bodyweight and cardio exercises are to help with boxing (once I find a gym again). The best motivator is to improve in something you enjoy. As for diet, I'm just as bad, so I won't try to give any advice. |
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Also, to expand on what some of the others said, you need to stop skipping breakfast. Eat something. Think of it as a command, break the fast.
Also, you may want to check into something like P90X, as it seems like something that might help you. You can probably find a copy on Craigslist or Ebay for a good price. |
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Thank you for Your help.
And hes right, i dont really want to get "big". I just want to feel better and look better. I dont plan on taking any "supplements" either. Im gonna go buy some dumbells tomorrow, Ill start off small 10lbers and 20lbers. I could probably use those for aLOT of diff exercises. Like VTHOKIESHOOTER said, you don't have to worry about getting big; it won't happen, especially at your current pace. If you want to feel better and look better, that's pretty simple. Start with eating 3 square meals a day, move on to carb/fat/protein division later. Go for a walk for 30 minutes a day and do some pushups, or join a gym and do a basic 5x5 program. Basically, do exactly the opposite of what you've been doing and you'll feel and look better. Also, if you don't intend on taking suppliments then you probably arn't really serious unless you intend on becoming a world class cook and have monk-like dedication to making sure you get everything you need in your diet. A little bit of protein powder in your morning oatmeal (you've figured out you need breakfast by now, right?) is going to go a LONG way. |
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My major problem is i always TALK about getting fit. But never seem to DO it. Anyone here ever have that problem and have any tips for overcoming it? Im thinking the USMC would whip me into shape.lol Find an activity that you ENJOY. That makes motivation much easier. When dinosaurs walked the earth and I was in high school (cave), I was a fatty and hated running. I discovered that I enjoyed lifting weights - between lots of time lifting weights and the 3-4 miles / day I started walking from having a paper route I got a little big and dropped a ton of weight. In college, I still liked to lift, but found out that I could pedal a bike pretty quickly. I became a bike racer and got super-fit aerobically. Still did a bit of lifting in the off-season. Moved to Cali and didn't always have time to ride - running was a faster way to get a good workout. A triathlete was born. Just pick something fun and you will stay with it. Wii Fit doesn't count though. 
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OK, i got some Dumbbells. And i feel great this morning, arms back and chest are all sore. Thats a good thing isnt it? Doesnt that mean my muscles are rebuilding? Please don't fall into the trap that most of us did by just picking up weights and lifting them. At least pick up Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. If you pick up a routine revolving around poor technique and no real routine then you are on your way to injury, trust me, I've let my ego get in the way of my training and now I am paying for it with injury after injury. |
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A couple of points of agreement on previous posters:
1) You are not going to turn into some hulking maniac overnight if you start lifting "heavy" (heavy, is of course relative, and isn't going to be that heavy for you right now). The mere suggestion of this is absurd. I'm guessing your ideal look is somewhere around Brad Pitt just as he lays that guy out in Snatch. Some people poopoo working out for aesthetics sake, but I don't think there is anything wrong with taking pride in your appearance. At any rate, that look is probably in excess of 30lbs additional muscle (likely more) and you aren't going to get that by just doing pushups. You aren't going to get "toned" if there is nothing there to tone. Fact is, weight training, properly done, is going to give you better results in line with your goal than what you are proposing. It will give you both visible and measurable results, especially at the beginning. This is especially important for you, as you admit lack of motivation. There is nothing that will help with that more than seeing more weight go up on the bar every week and seeing your body take shape. 2) Have a program, find an existing one that WORKS. I fell into the trap of pushing around some weights without really knowing what I was doing thinking it was "better than nothing". OK, it probably was, but the results simply weren't there. This goes along with the viable, measurable results theme that helps w/ motivation. 3) And of course, fix the diet. Breakfast is a must. If you are trying to gain mass (which you are) you'll need to make sure that you take in both enough protein, as well as enough overall calories to support your new level of activity. To sum it up, while anything is better than nothing, you are better off doing it "right" from the start. Else I worry you aren't going to see the results you are expecting and give up. |
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Get copies of "Starting Strength" and "Practical Programming" by Mark Rippetoe and start lifting weights. Start light (use the bar or even a lighter bar) and progressively increase your weights. Also, start eating more and healthier. Get the Starting Strength DVD too. It is a tremendous help. After you stall out on Starting Strength, Get Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 book from elitefts.com. He has a booklet out now but due to the tremendous response and inundation of questions concerning the program, he wrote an actual book that was supposed to be out today but wasn't. I expect it will be next week. Remember, getting bigger and stronger is a marathon, not a race. This is a long-haul endeavor. |
| if motivation and lack of "knowledge" is an issue, join a crossfit gym. i cannot speak highly enough of the guys and gals that run the local one here. i floundered for awhile at the local "fitness center" before finding my way to the dark side. any exercise that is not fully understood is demonstrated and explained ad nauseum until you know exactly what is expected and how to do it. it would definitely solve your issue of "needing cardio and muscle mass." PT stud i'm not, but i have seen marked improvements since joining crossfit. also, as others have already stated, getting your diet together is critical. |
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, and that thing above my belly button is my scar from surgery about 2 months ago.(appendectomy). So im gonna try to order the book that was suggested above ^. And guess what guys :D Uncle gave me this today: 
Its only a total of 120 pounds but hey thats a start right? I got a good feeling about this. And i never saw Snatch, but i wouldn't mind looking like brad pitt from fight club :D Thanks for the help guys, you all have been really helpful. |
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, (appendectomy). . Stop worrying about your abs and start worrying about how much you can squat, deadlift, and press. Your rack is better than nothing, but I would sell it and upgrade to a power rack so that you can safely benchpress and squat. |
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, (appendectomy). . Stop worrying about your abs and start worrying about how much you can squat, deadlift, and press. Your rack is better than nothing, but I would sell it and upgrade to a power rack so that you can safely benchpress and squat. Big +1 |
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, (appendectomy). . Stop worrying about your abs and start worrying about how much you can squat, deadlift, and press. Your rack is better than nothing, but I would sell it and upgrade to a power rack so that you can safely benchpress and squat. Big +1 Big +2 |
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, (appendectomy). . Stop worrying about your abs and start worrying about how much you can squat, deadlift, and press. Your rack is better than nothing, but I would sell it and upgrade to a power rack so that you can safely benchpress and squat. Big +1 Big +2 +3. Buy a power rack or join a gym. If you spend six months squatting, deadlifting and eating right you will be stronger and in better shape than you thought possible. A six pack may never happen, and that is OK. Worrying about abs is gay. |
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, (appendectomy). . Stop worrying about your abs and start worrying about how much you can squat, deadlift, and press. Your rack is better than nothing, but I would sell it and upgrade to a power rack so that you can safely benchpress and squat. Big +1 Big +2 +3. Buy a power rack or join a gym. If you spend six months squatting, deadlifting and eating right you will be stronger and in better shape than you thought possible. A six pack may never happen, and that is OK. Worrying about abs is gay. Everything is cool, except your last statement, i am doing this to make me feel better. Im pretty sure nice abs would make me feel better. Higher confidence is gay? BTW, You made some crazy fugggn progress in the body transformation thread congrats 
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, (appendectomy). . Stop worrying about your abs and start worrying about how much you can squat, deadlift, and press. Your rack is better than nothing, but I would sell it and upgrade to a power rack so that you can safely benchpress and squat. Big +1 Big +2 +3. Buy a power rack or join a gym. If you spend six months squatting, deadlifting and eating right you will be stronger and in better shape than you thought possible. A six pack may never happen, and that is OK. Worrying about abs is gay. Everything is cool, except your last statement, i am doing this to make me feel better. Im pretty sure nice abs would make me feel better. Higher confidence is gay? BTW, You made some crazy fugggn progress in the body transformation thread congrats Do you want to be strong, or weak and skinny with a six-pack? |
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Im pretty confident i can get some decent abs, (appendectomy). . Stop worrying about your abs and start worrying about how much you can squat, deadlift, and press. Your rack is better than nothing, but I would sell it and upgrade to a power rack so that you can safely benchpress and squat. Big +1 Big +2 +3. Buy a power rack or join a gym. If you spend six months squatting, deadlifting and eating right you will be stronger and in better shape than you thought possible. A six pack may never happen, and that is OK. Worrying about abs is gay. Everything is cool, except your last statement, i am doing this to make me feel better. Im pretty sure nice abs would make me feel better. Higher confidence is gay? BTW, You made some crazy fugggn progress in the body transformation thread congrats Thanks man! That just shows what 3 months of squatting, deadlifting and eating right can do for you as well. I did get the beginnings of a six pack out of it, but that was just a lucky side effect. Just concern yourself with making gains in the gym every time you go in. You will get stronger and the confidence will come as result, six pack or not. I promise that if you squat 300 pounds for reps, and feel strong enough lift a car, that you will have confidence out the ying-yang. You don't need a six pack for that. Focus on building strength. As VTHOKIE said, if you focus too much on having a six pack, you will just be skinny and weak with a six pack. Get your body strong and the rest will fall into place. I am currently eating more than I was during the fitness comp, as I am really focusing on getting stronger. It has been at the expense of that super lean look that I had at the end of the fitness comp, but that is just fine by me. The more muscle you have on your frame, the easier it is to lose bodyfat anyway. |
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I agree with the sentiment that strong first, six-pack later if you want. If you cut to the BF% needed for a six-pack with your current lean mass, I think you'd end up looking like an anorexic.
I'm guessing you are somewhere in your late HS years? So let's drop the bullshit here, you mostly want to do this to get laid more. From the "if I only knew then what I knew now" school, plain old confidence will do more for you there than a hard body (and even more so as you get older, but then money/power come into play as well), and confidence comes in many forms. Which is why if that's your primary goal, some suggest that as you find yourself getting stronger, the desire to be completely cut might diminish. But either way, first things first. On that note, while the equipment you got is better than nothing, it still isn't enough for optimal results - namely, you aren't going to be able to safely squat or deadlift at all with it (note here that both of these exercises will also work your core quite a bit). Typical mistake for those new is to concentrate on the "beach muscles", but properly working your entire body will stimulate overall growth and you'll see much better progress. If you are, indeed, still in HS, I'd suggest making use of the school's gym. I completely understand that it can be very intimidating for a newbie, but try to make that your motivation - make it to a goal to intimidate everyone else. Because based on the description of your lifestyle and diet, the pictures really aren't that bad. I'd bet if properly fed and worked out, you'll explode. If you are out of school, check out the local YMCA for a fairly cheap alternative. |
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I agree with the sentiment that strong first, six-pack later if you want. If you cut to the BF% needed for a six-pack with your current lean mass, I think you'd end up looking like an anorexic. I'm guessing you are somewhere in your late HS years? So let's drop the bullshit here, you mostly want to do this to get laid more. From the "if I only knew then what I knew now" school, plain old confidence will do more for you there than a hard body (and even more so as you get older, but then money/power come into play as well), and confidence comes in many forms. Which is why if that's your primary goal, some suggest that as you find yourself getting stronger, the desire to be completely cut might diminish. But either way, first things first. On that note, while the equipment you got is better than nothing, it still isn't enough for optimal results - namely, you aren't going to be able to safely squat or deadlift at all with it (note here that both of these exercises will also work your core quite a bit). Typical mistake for those new is to concentrate on the "beach muscles", but properly working your entire body will stimulate overall growth and you'll see much better progress. If you are, indeed, still in HS, I'd suggest making use of the school's gym. I completely understand that it can be very intimidating for a newbie, but try to make that your motivation - make it to a goal to intimidate everyone else. Because based on the description of your lifestyle and diet, the pictures really aren't that bad. I'd bet if properly fed and worked out, you'll explode. If you are out of school, check out the local YMCA for a fairly cheap alternative. You been spying on me or something? lol Yea i graduated last year, i was the "loner" guy, never really bothered anyone , and no one bothered me. I am/was ok with that, but "looking back" i see that the times i had the most girls(yea i had a few :) were when i was the happiest and the fittest But in my current state i feel like a slob lol So i want to do something about it. One of my problems ihave run into, its food. I know i dont look like a 500 pounder, but i eat like one. Weird thing is, fat ONLY sticks to my middle region. What tastes GOOD and is GOOD for you? I like fruits and veggies and stuff but i also love taco bell and chick fil a lol But yea i Know that from now on i need to eat breakfast EVERY morning, and im guessing it should be oatmeal. For snacks i should just eat Healthy shit. So far on the checklist ive got: 1.Stop eating shit, and i wont look/feel like shit. 2. Join a Gym 3. Push harder
A quick Q: I worked HARD on the 12th, and the 13th i rested because i was fkn sore, (im trying not to "overtrain") Well today im SORER, im sore to the touch on my biceps triceps, shoulders and back. Should i go at it again, or just wait till im back to normal? |
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I agree with the sentiment that strong first, six-pack later if you want. If you cut to the BF% needed for a six-pack with your current lean mass, I think you'd end up looking like an anorexic. I'm guessing you are somewhere in your late HS years? So let's drop the bullshit here, you mostly want to do this to get laid more. From the "if I only knew then what I knew now" school, plain old confidence will do more for you there than a hard body (and even more so as you get older, but then money/power come into play as well), and confidence comes in many forms. Which is why if that's your primary goal, some suggest that as you find yourself getting stronger, the desire to be completely cut might diminish. But either way, first things first. On that note, while the equipment you got is better than nothing, it still isn't enough for optimal results - namely, you aren't going to be able to safely squat or deadlift at all with it (note here that both of these exercises will also work your core quite a bit). Typical mistake for those new is to concentrate on the "beach muscles", but properly working your entire body will stimulate overall growth and you'll see much better progress. If you are, indeed, still in HS, I'd suggest making use of the school's gym. I completely understand that it can be very intimidating for a newbie, but try to make that your motivation - make it to a goal to intimidate everyone else. Because based on the description of your lifestyle and diet, the pictures really aren't that bad. I'd bet if properly fed and worked out, you'll explode. If you are out of school, check out the local YMCA for a fairly cheap alternative. You been spying on me or something? lol Yea i graduated last year, i was the "loner" guy, never really bothered anyone , and no one bothered me. I am/was ok with that, but "looking back" i see that the times i had the most girls(yea i had a few :) were when i was the happiest and the fittest But in my current state i feel like a slob lol So i want to do something about it. One of my problems ihave run into, its food. I know i dont look like a 500 pounder, but i eat like one. Weird thing is, fat ONLY sticks to my middle region. What tastes GOOD and is GOOD for you? I like fruits and veggies and stuff but i also love taco bell and chick fil a lol But yea i Know that from now on i need to eat breakfast EVERY morning, and im guessing it should be oatmeal. For snacks i should just eat Healthy shit. So far on the checklist ive got: 1.Stop eating shit, and i wont look/feel like shit. 2. Join a Gym 3. Push harder
A quick Q: I worked HARD on the 12th, and the 13th i rested because i was fkn sore, (im trying not to "overtrain") Well today im SORER, im sore to the touch on my biceps triceps, shoulders and back. Should i go at it again, or just wait till im back to normal? Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS) goes a way when you go to the gym and get the muscles working. However, I am going to tell you something else you aren't going to like; stop targeting your biceps. You use your biceps in just about every lift, doing curls not only isn't going to help you (since you are a noob) but it will cause tendon issues later on. Speaking of tendons, don't push it, tendons take a longer time to build strength than muscles; tendonitis, tendonotis and tendon tears suck All you need to do is squat, press and row on one day and squat, bench and dead lift on the other, drink a gallon of milk a day and eat as many eggs as you can. Do this now, and at the age of 25 you will be a monster. |
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All you need to do is squat, press and row on one day and squat, bench and dead lift on the other, drink a gallon of milk a day and eat as many eggs as you can. Do this now, and at the age of 25 you will be a monster.
I would never trade my (pitiful) strength for sexy abs. Actually once I quit giving a shit about seeing my abs my strength started skyrocketing. |
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Here are some vids for you to watch. Watch everyone, then go back a week later and watch them again.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=C03D688F10C4DE1F&page=1 http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Mark+Rippetoe&aq=f |
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A quick Q: I worked HARD on the 12th, and the 13th i rested because i was fkn sore, (im trying not to "overtrain") Well today im SORER, im sore to the touch on my biceps triceps, shoulders and back. Should i go at it again, or just wait till im back to normal? You are very sore because 1) you overdid it, and 2) you probably aren't eating enough. When you are starting out, you have to resist the temptation to do to much. Start light, do 3 sets of 5 reps, take a day off, then workout again, adding more weight to the bar. You should squat every workout, and alternate between benchpress/overhead press, and power clean/deadlifts on your workout days. In the interim, I would eat more and perhaps do some very light lifts to improve blood flow to your muscles until you get over most of your soreness. |
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Eh i noticed something today, when i work out, i dont count what i do.
I just do it until i cant, then force out a few more, then go to the next thing. Then after that I go back and start over. Until i cant do anything. Today i added weight after i noticed that what i did last time was easy this time. 
 Is that progress?
And ive got 200bux saved up so far for equipment, Until i can find a gym, then i'll go beast mode. Yea i know, the shit im doing is "wasting my time" but if i can work this into my daily plans without quitting thats a big step for me. And tomorrow morning i start running.
I like this, im my own opponent in this game. |
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Me thinks you aren't paying any attention to what we are posting.
Eh i noticed something today, when i work out, i dont count what i do. I just do it until i cant, then force out a few more, then go to the next thing. Then after that I go back and start over. Until i cant do anything. Today i added weight after i noticed that what i did last time was easy this time.
Is that progress?
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