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2/20/2009 3:53:25 PM EDT
Does either one have an advantage/disadvantage over the other? Which do you prefer?
2/20/2009 4:05:24 PM EDT
[#1]
I HATE treadmills with a passion.  Not only do I always feel like I'm about to fall on my face, but they will seriously jack up your knees.  Plus I actually enjoy running outside because of the breeze and you're well...outside.
2/20/2009 4:14:59 PM EDT
[#2]
Get the book  The New Rules Of Lifting by Lou Schuller & Alwyn Cosgrove.   They are not advocates of running at all.  They propose a weight routine that, done properly, increases your cardiovascular and aerobic potential.  I have been doing this for 3 months and it has changed my life!!!
2/20/2009 4:15:53 PM EDT
[#3]
My treadmill went tits up, so I started running outside. I like running outside MUCH better. It just seemed like after running about a mile on the treadmill, I wanted to cut myself due to boredom.
2/20/2009 6:25:11 PM EDT
[#4]
I would prefer to be outside, but when it is cold as hell the treadmill is my indoor answer.  I have to have a TV in front of me though to keep my mind occupied.
2/20/2009 6:28:26 PM EDT
[#5]
Well, I would rather run on a nice modern treadmill with some "give" than concrete. Im a big guy, and I'd like my knees to last a while.
2/20/2009 7:28:51 PM EDT
[#6]
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Well, I would rather run on a nice modern treadmill with some "give" than concrete. Im a big guy, and I'd like my knees to last a while.


even not being a big guy I try to run on grass or dirt and not on pavement or concrete.  Tracks tend to be made out of shredded tires or some sort of composite rubber that is sorta in the middle between grass and pavement as far as firmness goes.  The only thing with tracks is that depending on how they're made they can be a bit "springy" which may make your knees feel weird.
2/20/2009 8:02:19 PM EDT
[#7]
You don't work certain leg muscles when running on a treadmill and it does not give the best workout. Running outside is the only way to go in my book. Besides I would much rather run outside and get some fresh air and get a real workout. The only time i use a treadmill is for a warm up before hitting the weights at the gym or if it is raining outside.
2/22/2009 3:05:21 PM EDT
[#8]
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Well, I would rather run on a nice modern treadmill with some "give" than concrete. Im a big guy, and I'd like my knees to last a while.

I agree. I like outside as well, but I live in Michigan. Snow is the norm and nobody shovels. Plus, at the gym the scenery is usually better.

2/22/2009 6:03:51 PM EDT
[#9]
My treadmill sucks, but I use it and it produces results.  Maybe once spring shows up I'll try my cardio workouts outside.
2/22/2009 7:19:24 PM EDT
[#10]
most of my running in the past couple years has been treadmill miles as it is just more convienent in the gym. That said it is my opinion that workout wise that running out in the real world is a better workout (but not always better on knee's and ankles etc) which is a problem for me too.

I do alot of interval training so running on a track or outdoors works great for that as the treadmill has a slight lag time on the run up and slow down, but it works in a pinch.

Lastly I find that I can run alot longer on a tread mill then I can running outdoors. The treadmill imparts some momentum to your run that makes it easier to go further. easier=not as good of a work out.

J-
2/23/2009 8:52:57 AM EDT
[#11]
I hate treadmills.  I either run outside or do the ellipticals or bikes at the gym.  We do have a treadmill at home that I will occassionally use if necesary.  I am waiting for it to die  (8 years old and lots of use by my wife) so I can replace it with an elliptical.
2/23/2009 9:01:11 AM EDT
[#12]
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Does either one have an advantage/disadvantage over the other? Which do you prefer?


I have a crummy knee, and I can't hardly make it 5 minutes jogging outside, but I'm fine on my treadmill.
2/23/2009 9:04:27 AM EDT
[#13]
I can't watch TV or read a book while running out side.  I have a fan in front of me that makes me feel like I am out side.
2/23/2009 2:43:32 PM EDT
[#14]
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You don't work certain leg muscles when running on a treadmill


Cite?

2/23/2009 2:44:42 PM EDT
[#15]
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Get the book  The New Rules Of Lifting by Lou Schuller & Alwyn Cosgrove.   They are not advocates of running at all.  They propose a weight routine that, done properly, increases your cardiovascular and aerobic potential.  I have been doing this for 3 months and it has changed my life!!!


I would call bullshit on that book.  People come up with shit like this all the time, but it never replaces actual aerobic activity.
2/24/2009 6:30:26 AM EDT
[#16]
To treadmill or not to treadmill...

Yes, running on the treadmill is different than running outside.  Your gait, stride length and pace will all vary when you run outside, but when you run on the mill, you are forced to maintain all.

I run on my mill during the winter.  I have to.  My work schedule and lack of daylight dictate this.  Once the weather breaks and we have more daylight, the treadmill gets moth-balled.

Any running is better than sitting on the couch.  If you like the mill, go for it.
2/24/2009 12:17:26 PM EDT
[#17]
I have better results with a 'stepper' type machine than running outside or on a treadmill.  I like to hunt a lot in rough country- think Alaska -Idaho do-it-yourself type hunts.  When I ran, I had endurance but my lets would give out climbing.  The stepper gives you climbing muscles as well as aerobics IMO.  I amd 52 and can backpack half a caribou across Alaska, along with a .338 and ammo.
2/25/2009 5:15:26 AM EDT
[#18]
Outside: Can't run as far but can do 1-2 miles a lot faster.  Pacing works better.  I enjoy the wind in my face.



Treadmill: I can run further.  It is inside so the air is dryer and my lungs burn faster.
2/25/2009 6:27:47 AM EDT
[#19]
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Outside: Can't run as far but can do 1-2 miles a lot faster.  Pacing works better.  I enjoy the wind in my face.

Treadmill: I can run further.  It is inside so the air is dryer and my lungs burn faster.


Wow, I am totally the opposite––-when I run on a treadmill, I can run faster because I can see the pace I am running at and have to keep it up, but I can't run as far because it's so godawfully boring.
Outside, I can run further but I am a bit slower.
2/25/2009 1:33:18 PM EDT
[#20]
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You don't work certain leg muscles when running on a treadmill


Cite?



You at least aren't getting the same workout on the muscles (I don't know about muscle activation, though). You are changing direction, going up/over and down/off curbs, bumps, dips, avoiding stones and drain holes, etc while you're outside. Treadmill? Not so much.
2/27/2009 8:39:01 AM EDT
[#21]
Road at night. Fewer visual distractors the better.
2/27/2009 1:27:43 PM EDT
[#22]
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You don't work certain leg muscles when running on a treadmill


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You at least aren't getting the same workout on the muscles (I don't know about muscle activation, though). You are changing direction, going up/over and down/off curbs, bumps, dips, avoiding stones and drain holes, etc while you're outside. Treadmill? Not so much.


Unless one varies the grade and pace.  In any case outside >> inside.
3/1/2009 4:17:46 AM EDT
[#23]
Traditional running routines are boring.

Try this instead:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/highoctane_cardio&cr=
3/1/2009 4:47:36 AM EDT
[#24]
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Get the book  The New Rules Of Lifting by Lou Schuller & Alwyn Cosgrove.   They are not advocates of running at all.  They propose a weight routine that, done properly, increases your cardiovascular and aerobic potential.  I have been doing this for 3 months and it has changed my life!!!


I would call bullshit on that book.  People come up with shit like this all the time, but it never replaces actual aerobic activity.


+1

The book is targeted for an audience that doesn't like running/jogging. I don't like running but it is only the first 2 or 3 minutes that are difficult. Once the endorphins kick in I can go for 45 minutes at 8 MPH with 1 or 2 percent incline no problem.

Weight training and running will never replace weight training and not running.
3/1/2009 6:58:30 AM EDT
[#25]
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You don't work certain leg muscles when running on a treadmill


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You at least aren't getting the same workout on the muscles (I don't know about muscle activation, though). You are changing direction, going up/over and down/off curbs, bumps, dips, avoiding stones and drain holes, etc while you're outside. Treadmill? Not so much.


Unless one varies the grade and pace.  In any case outside >> inside.


How does changing the grade equal changing direction?
3/2/2009 5:28:19 AM EDT
[#26]
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You don't work certain leg muscles when running on a treadmill


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You at least aren't getting the same workout on the muscles (I don't know about muscle activation, though). You are changing direction, going up/over and down/off curbs, bumps, dips, avoiding stones and drain holes, etc while you're outside. Treadmill? Not so much.


Unless one varies the grade and pace.  In any case outside >> inside.


How does changing the grade equal changing direction?


How does "changing direction" improve cardiovascular fitness, the main purpose of running?  Running is an endurance exercise.  How much time do you spend changing direction in a one hour run?

Changing the grade and speed of a treadmill forces a runner to vary stride length and impact points, minimizing potential repetitive stress injuries and better replicating outdoor conditions.

If you are looking for an agility workout, running probably isn't the best choice.


3/2/2009 2:07:41 PM EDT
[#27]
I find that running at incline 3 or 4 on the treadmill reduces shock on my joints to almost nothing. Now, running at that incline kicks my ass, but its great interval work.