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Posted: 3/18/2006 4:39:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/30/2006 9:13:37 PM EDT by ursus]
Guys, I have had a RC problem off and on over the last couple of years. I have done all the therapy exercises and with rest the problem goes away. I have modified my chest work outs, no flat bench, no db lateral raises, etc. Any recommendations on exercises or routines that don't tax that area? Thanks.
Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:49:50 PM EDT
Man, this is an area you should visit your doctors about. There is so many muscles and ligaments in that region, you can have a combination of injuries. I have a rotator cuff problem as well. Therapy just makes it stronger, but not heal 100%.

Check this thread out:

corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25489


Link Posted: 3/18/2006 7:52:25 PM EDT
Rotator cuffs huh, I've got one.

I lost the other in a tragic boatingbaseball/weightlifting accident.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 3:50:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/19/2006 3:52:33 AM EDT by ursus]
T- Thanks for the very informative thread. My case is just overuse and within a few weeks I am o.k.. I am looking for exercises that I can still keep chest and shoulder strength without stressing the area. I don't want to just try anything and end up making it worse.
Link Posted: 3/19/2006 10:56:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ursus:
T- Thanks for the very informative thread. My case is just overuse and within a few weeks I am o.k.. I am looking for exercises that I can still keep chest and shoulder strength without stressing the area. I don't want to just try anything and end up making it worse.



There was a few exercises in that thread with low weight front and side raises, will those work for you?
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 3:54:55 AM EDT
Yes, I have used them in the past and have just recently started them up again. I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with Crossfit or Matt Furey or the kettlebells workouts. I realize that the shoulder is involved with the chest and vice versa and was looking for ways to keep them in shape. Thanks
Link Posted: 3/20/2006 4:23:43 AM EDT
I just has surgery on mine. Partial tear to the supraspinateous tendon, bone spur and damage consistent with a dislocated shoulder. The Dr. was surprised to hear I was unaware of ever having a dislocation .

Had debridement and decompression. 2.5 weeks later, it feels better than when I went in but not 100%.


Good luck.....see an Orthopaedist that specializes in sports medicine.

Bomber
Link Posted: 3/22/2006 6:41:56 AM EDT
I had a pain in my right shoulder, triceps, Biceps every time I trained at the bench and military presses.
I went to a specialist (last week), after examination and a ultrasound scanner, the doctor said it was a RC Tendonitis and that I needed physiotherapy.
The future will tell if it goes betterhy.gif
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 6:52:45 AM EDT
Tagged for later reference, I'm giving PT one more month and then going to talk to the doc about surgery or cortisone shots since I'm just getting stronger without it healing, and if I miss therapy for more than 3-4 days, it starts acting up.

Kharn
Link Posted: 3/28/2006 8:07:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kharn:
Tagged for later reference, I'm giving PT one more month and then going to talk to the doc about surgery or cortisone shots since I'm just getting stronger without it healing, and if I miss therapy for more than 3-4 days, it starts acting up.

Kharn



You may want to avoid the cortisone or at least ask your Ortho about the downsides of the shots. It makes the tendons brittle (so I am told).


Bomber
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:15:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/29/2006 6:24:55 AM EDT by Kharn]
I'm aware of the risk, since I already had one shot (~3mo after the injury, but I wasnt doing PT at the time, injury was in April '04, but I didnt start PT until Sept '05) the ortho said he'll only give one more to that shoulder when we talked surgery or shots during my last visit in January. The plan he laid out was if I didnt improve, we'll do a shot, wait 3-4mo to see if it works, and then do surgery.

I recently noticed my left shoulder "catching" 1-3 times a week (right shoulder was the original injury and will catch 1-3 times a day, if I force the arm through that range of motion then I'm good for several hours, also occasional popping noises), so I'm not sure what's up with that, another topic to discuss with the ortho at my next visit. I'm wondering if it could be a nerve impingment or something in my neck.

Kharn
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:33:48 AM EDT
I had debridement and decompression done 3 weeks ago. It's still stiff and I get some catching and sharp pains when doing my stretching exercises.

BOmber
Link Posted: 3/29/2006 6:25:31 PM EDT
I had rotator cuff PT a couple years ago. The therapist told me not to go below 90 degrees on a flat bench, nor when doing lat pulldowns. That is, your upper arms should be parallel w/ the floor at the end of the rep. So far it has worked fine, no more injuries.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 5:40:32 PM EDT
Try a high grade glucosamine(shark cartalige (spelling?)). My brother and I have had problems with our knees and it fixed the problem. My cousin who is a fire fighter had RC problems for about 6 yrs to the point were he couldnt lift his right arm over his shoulder. He started glucosamine and in three months the problem went away. The thing is your body naturally produces it, but about the time you hit 35 it stops. The thing is though if it is introduced into the system your body will take it and still use it. Farmers have been grinding up chicken caralige and feeding it to there cows(known to have arthritis) for over 200 yrs to treat the problem. Basically its just ground and pressed cartalige.
Link Posted: 3/30/2006 9:29:53 PM EDT
Guys, I was getting desperate and I did not want to explore surgery. I went looking and found this therapy techniquewww.activerelease.com/ I was able to find a Chiro in my area who lifts weights and competes in powerlifting. He did an eval on my condition and went over all my exercises and told me which to avoid and which ones to modify my form.

I have had 3 sessions and there is signifcant improvement. No more Advil at night, range of motion and flexibility is coming along. No more rice crispies and impingement is lessening. I have also followed up with a sports massage therapist. If all goes well should be back in a few weeks.
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 7:11:56 AM EDT
Belive it or not Acupuncture really does work.

It took 3 weeks of someone trying to tell me to go. And I don't trust any HOCUS POCUS bullshit.

But after doing about 4 weeks of it , I have never had any more problem. And it has been 3 1/2 years.
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 7:24:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ursus:
Guys, I have had a RC problem off and on over the last couple of years. I have done all the therapy exercises and with rest the problem goes away. I have modified my chest work outs, no flat bench, no db lateral raises, etc. Any recommendations on exercises or routines that don't tax that area? Thanks.



Incline bench presses tend to be less damaging to your shoulders than flat (which is counter-intuitive), so you might try those. Don't use a grip that is too wide, as that will also exacerbate shoulder problems. Maybe a little wider (no more than a hand) than shoulder width. Or, use dumbells.
Link Posted: 3/31/2006 7:24:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thebomber:
I had debridement and decompression done 3 weeks ago. It's still stiff and I get some catching and sharp pains when doing my stretching exercises.

BOmber



I had that done almost two years ago now. Was in near constant pain before the surgery. The post-surgery PT was hard and I wasn't pain free until about 6 months...but I am old. I now bench more than I ever could before, but can feel some bone spurs beginning to form again (maybe). Hope I don't have to reduce my lifting routines, but you probably can't go heavy forever.

Work hard on your PT and be patient. You will get back better than ever.

dvo
Link Posted: 4/4/2006 9:45:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/4/2006 9:48:15 PM EDT by GlockandRoll]
I know the best shoulder guy in the world, his name is Dr. Edward Seade... it may be worth your time to see if he can refer you to a specialist in your area.

I was told my shoulder would never work again, and he fixed it... THROUGH THE SCOPE!!!
Here is his website:
austinshoulder.com/shoulder.html
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