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5/11/2005 5:20:50 PM EDT
Hey y'all, I got a question for any of the fitness gurus who probably roam this forum.

I know this sounds pathetic, and it is, but for a while I haven't been able to do more than 15-20 pushups. I've tried the slow (10 seconds up, 10 seconds down) method, different stances, etc. Even after a few weeks of this, I never saw improvement. Actually, I mostly saw a decrease. My arms are slightly longer than normal due to a condition, but even then I would think I could improve.

It's starting to get on my nerves how I can't even get any better at this. Does anyone have any advice? \
5/11/2005 6:35:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Pushups have always been hard for me (gender aside) but I found that when I placed my hands properly, and pulled my abs in high towards my back and remembered proper form (upper arms parallell to back when down, hands splayed so that elbows point to the rear) it got easier.
If that does not work, start with female pushups and work from there.
If all else fails...call in a round brown to scream at you 17 hours a day: I've never been able to do as many as I did as easily as I did since Basic. Joking aside, Good Luck
5/12/2005 10:43:41 AM EDT
[#2]
I had the same problem at the start of basic training (years ago) until someone reminded me that I need to breathe. It was as simple as that - I qas holding my breath.
5/12/2005 10:50:20 AM EDT
[#3]
so max out at 20.
when you try to do 21 and can't just stop where you are in the motion.
hold it untill you can't anymore.  then rest for a few minutes and try to do more.

3 sets of 20 is better than 20 anyway.

that or put in the full metal jacket DVD.  
"i bet if there was some pussy on the line you could pump out 21"
5/12/2005 2:11:12 PM EDT
[#4]
I agree on multiple sets. 3-4 sets, each set to failure will overload those muscles and force them to grow. Do your push-ups with your hands spread out a bit to really work those chest muscles, and add a few sets of bench dips to zone in on the triceps.
5/12/2005 2:41:34 PM EDT
[#5]
I've got really long arms - makes push-ups hard for me.  what helps is doing high # reps of them on your knees when you can't do any more on your feet.  I'm also a fan of giving myself 'days off'.  

Switch it up too: 5 diamonds, 5 w/ the left hand out front, 5 w/ the right hand out front, 5 "swoops".
5/19/2005 3:28:00 AM EDT
[#6]
 If you want to raise your amount of pushups, nothing compairs to simple strength training (bench press)  You still need to do push ups to bring the level up but your only going so far without the strength.   Once the strenght is there it takes alot less energy to do each of those push ups.

 
5/19/2005 3:38:57 AM EDT
[#7]
If comfortable spread arms out as much as possible. With correct hand spacing you only need to move your body 4-8 inches as opposed to like 16". I like to call it flappin'  
5/19/2005 4:10:34 AM EDT
[#8]
You know, its quite amasing that here I am an old guy way out of shape and can still pump out pushups.

When I went into the service I was lucky to do five but after 8 weeks of doing pushups for as little as looking the wrong way, it sank in apparrently permanently.  I think if Ft. Knox moved the length of my arms everytime I did a pushup, it would be located on the moon now.  

To me that's the key, you'll never get good at it once or twice a week in a gym but everyday and more than once a day.  

If you get into the rhoutine of everytime you do something stupid you knock out 20 pushups, it won't be long 50 wont' even matter.

Tj

5/19/2005 10:23:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Just have someone stand over you, threaten you and degrade you.  It works all the time.
5/21/2005 8:00:08 PM EDT
[#10]
Is it your chest that is weak or do you feel it more in the triceps? In other words what is burning the most when you reach failure? If its your triceps you'll need to strengthen them first and your push ups will increase. Also try reducing the range of motion. It seems too add stress too my chest too do sets where I never go all the way down or up. Good luck.
5/22/2005 8:03:22 PM EDT
[#11]
I have had a hard time with pushups and bench presses.  It took me about three months once to figure out that if I didn't do bench presses at least every other day, I could not make any progress.  Doing them every third day only caused me to lose strength over time.  Talk about frustration.

Personal rule-of-thumb: if I want to make progress on any muscle group, I find that a minimum of 3 sets is needed every other day.  If I want to keep that muscle for more than a week without working out, I need to do a minimum of 20 reps per set.

However, it should be noted that doing pushups every day can also be detrimental.  Muscles need time to repair, if that don't, they can't get stronger.  The key is to find the balance between too often and not often enough.

Nutrition is very important.  When I didn't know better, sometimes I wouldn't eat after working out.  Talk about shooting myself in the foot.

Frequent cardio type exercises will also eat muscle if you are not eating right.
5/22/2005 10:53:13 PM EDT
[#12]
bench press.

incline

decline

barbell

dumbell

narrow grip

standard grip



do dips.  LOTS of them
6/2/2005 10:10:05 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I agree on multiple sets. 3-4 sets, each set to failure will overload those muscles and force them to grow. Do your push-ups with your hands spread out a bit to really work those chest muscles, and add a few sets of bench dips to zone in on the triceps.


Dips rule....ok thats all I had to say.
6/6/2005 9:44:16 PM EDT
[#14]
I can do 4 sets of 25 Elevated (1'6")  pushups in about 15 mintues, but i have the most trouble knocking out like three pullups, really sucks, but I leave Aug. 1st for basic so I guess I will get that figured out quick.

Pat
6/7/2005 7:29:40 AM EDT
[#15]
Do a set of...say, 10 standard pushups, followed immediately by a set of 10 wide-grip push-ups.  Take a break for a minute or so, and repeat this 2 more times.  You'll get that max up in no time!  I can do this with sets of about 35 IIRC and have a max of a little over 50.  Of all the things I've tried, that definately works the best.  

I agree with what was said about supplimenting it with weights.  That couldn't hurt at all.  But push-ups use endurance muscle, and this is really what you have to build, not strength muscle from weights.  While extra strength will certainly help, it won't be enough.