Peptides (Page 4 of 4)
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Originally Posted By CapedCrusader: Anybody trying any new peptides? Reta since February, and down over 15lbs. I about shit when I saw 228 on the scale...it's been several years since I was under 230. This is with a 2mg a week schedule (1mg x 2) however, my weights on the barbell have fallen also, so I'll be getting a 10mg vial of CJC/IPA soon to run a trial on. Looking into a 300mcg nightly schedule...but might ramp up instead. also very curious on a mitochondrial regimen, but SS31 seem so damn expensive for a 10 vial kit that I won't need. |
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: Reta since February, and down over 15lbs. I about shit when I saw 228 on the scale...it's been several years since I was under 230. This is with a 2mg a week schedule (1mg x 2) however, my weights on the barbell have fallen also, so I'll be getting a 10mg vial of CJC/IPA soon to run a trial on. Looking into a 300mcg nightly schedule...but might ramp up instead. also very curious on a mitochondrial regimen, but SS31 seem so damn expensive for a 10 vial kit that I won't need. 300 is a big dose, especially at one time, I'd work up to that and maybe split am/pm |
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Originally Posted By DonKey153: 300 is a big dose, especially at one time, I'd work up to that and maybe split am/pm That was my initial thought, my "research" partner does this, but he's 6'5" Anyone use PepLair, prices seem cheap? They have 30ml BAC Hospira for $13 |
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: Reta since February, and down over 15lbs. I about shit when I saw 228 on the scale...it's been several years since I was under 230. This is with a 2mg a week schedule (1mg x 2) however, my weights on the barbell have fallen also, so I'll be getting a 10mg vial of CJC/IPA soon to run a trial on. Looking into a 300mcg nightly schedule...but might ramp up instead. also very curious on a mitochondrial regimen, but SS31 seem so damn expensive for a 10 vial kit that I won't need. Originally Posted By Flashover343: Originally Posted By CapedCrusader: Anybody trying any new peptides? Reta since February, and down over 15lbs. I about shit when I saw 228 on the scale...it's been several years since I was under 230. This is with a 2mg a week schedule (1mg x 2) however, my weights on the barbell have fallen also, so I'll be getting a 10mg vial of CJC/IPA soon to run a trial on. Looking into a 300mcg nightly schedule...but might ramp up instead. also very curious on a mitochondrial regimen, but SS31 seem so damn expensive for a 10 vial kit that I won't need. What do your macros look like while on Reta? Throwing GH boosters at a strength loss problem first might be an expensive first step. Most likely you’re losing some muscle with the weight loss. SS31 followed by MOTS is well worth the price. At least it was for me. Those are the two that completely changed the game for me. What I should have started with and how I do it now is SS31 for 4 weeks then add MOTS and run them both for 4 weeks and cycle off. I run MOTS 4 weeks out of every 12. Ss31 can run longer or more often but I don’t know the exact cycle. |
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Originally Posted By JaredC1: What do your macros look like while on Reta? Throwing GH boosters at a strength loss problem first might be an expensive first step. Most likely you're losing some muscle with the weight loss. SS31 followed by MOTS is well worth the price. At least it was for me. Those are the two that completely changed the game for me. What I should have started with and how I do it now is SS31 for 4 weeks then add MOTS and run them both for 4 weeks and cycle off. I run MOTS 4 weeks out of every 12. Ss31 can run longer or more often but I don't know the exact cycle. Research Dosing says to run the SS-31 for two weeks prior to MOTS-C, so what you're doing makes sense. |
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
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Originally Posted By Landshark9025: @jaredC1 - Can you elaborate on what you saw with the SS-31/MOTS-C? I'm contemplating adding that. I'm feeling a lot better since getting on BPC-157/TB-4, so wondering if those would be the next logical step. I'm finishing up Week 4 of these two. Research Dosing says to run the SS-31 for two weeks prior to MOTS-C, so what you're doing makes sense. Originally Posted By Landshark9025: Originally Posted By JaredC1: What do your macros look like while on Reta? Throwing GH boosters at a strength loss problem first might be an expensive first step. Most likely you're losing some muscle with the weight loss. SS31 followed by MOTS is well worth the price. At least it was for me. Those are the two that completely changed the game for me. What I should have started with and how I do it now is SS31 for 4 weeks then add MOTS and run them both for 4 weeks and cycle off. I run MOTS 4 weeks out of every 12. Ss31 can run longer or more often but I don't know the exact cycle. Research Dosing says to run the SS-31 for two weeks prior to MOTS-C, so what you're doing makes sense. Before I knew to run SS31 first I ran MOTS for 8 weeks. By the 4th week it was like someone flipped a switch in my and my energy went through the roof. I went 2 months without sleeping to my alarms at 5am. Which may not be a big deal to people who sleep too little but where I was in life prior was dragging. Even at 8 hrs of sleep I was tired and had to force myself through workouts. 4 weeks into MOTS I was firing out of bed after 6-7 hrs and ready to go. It was like I couldn’t workout enough. Mental clarity and focus increased. Everything in general improved. I had also really dialed in my macros and diet at the same time so I’m sure that played a role. SS-31 is not nearly as exciting and I am not sure I have any “felt” affects. But supposedly my next Mots cycle after SS will be even more dramatic. It was very very hard to cycle off Mots and lose some of that energy kick. The way it was explained to me is that during your off cycle you will lose some of the “gains” but not all. And after each ss-31 and mots cycle you will keep more and more each time. Honestly i would have paid 10x for the affect I felt |
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Originally Posted By JaredC1: Before I knew to run SS31 first I ran MOTS for 8 weeks. By the 4th week it was like someone flipped a switch in my and my energy went through the roof. I went 2 months without sleeping to my alarms at 5am. Which may not be a big deal to people who sleep too little but where I was in life prior was dragging. Even at 8 hrs of sleep I was tired and had to force myself through workouts. 4 weeks into MOTS I was firing out of bed after 6-7 hrs and ready to go. It was like I couldn't workout enough. Mental clarity and focus increased. Everything in general improved. I had also really dialed in my macros and diet at the same time so I'm sure that played a role. SS-31 is not nearly as exciting and I am not sure I have any "felt" affects. But supposedly my next Mots cycle after SS will be even more dramatic. It was very very hard to cycle off Mots and lose some of that energy kick. The way it was explained to me is that during your off cycle you will lose some of the "gains" but not all. And after each ss-31 and mots cycle you will keep more and more each time. Honestly i would have paid 10x for the affect I felt With the current stack it's a LOT better. Sounds like adding the SS-31 and MOTS-C would up that a bit. thx, |
There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
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Originally Posted By JaredC1: What do your macros look like while on Reta? Throwing GH boosters at a strength loss problem first might be an expensive first step. Most likely you’re losing some muscle with the weight loss. SS31 followed by MOTS is well worth the price. At least it was for me. Those are the two that completely changed the game for me. What I should have started with and how I do it now is SS31 for 4 weeks then add MOTS and run them both for 4 weeks and cycle off. I run MOTS 4 weeks out of every 12. Ss31 can run longer or more often but I don’t know the exact cycle. I go heavy on protein, with at least 100-150g from whey alone, easily 200+ total. But still, no doubt i've lost some muscle in the process. |
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: Reta since February, and down over 15lbs. I about shit when I saw 228 on the scale...it's been several years since I was under 230. This is with a 2mg a week schedule (1mg x 2) however, my weights on the barbell have fallen also, so I'll be getting a 10mg vial of CJC/IPA soon to run a trial on. Looking into a 300mcg nightly schedule...but might ramp up instead. also very curious on a mitochondrial regimen, but SS31 seem so damn expensive for a 10 vial kit that I won't need. I would do a IGF-1 test first as well. Get a baseline. I liked how this was written concerning Cjc1295 no dac. https://www.steroidal.com/hgh-peptides/cjc-1295/ I dose myself before bed and when I wake up. I am doing about a 125mcg dose twice. I am early 40s and feel it was useful at my age but depending on your age it might be best to just look into HGH which I am probably going to look into eventually myself. |
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Originally Posted By Blackbird_Pilot: I just started on the "Wolverine Stack" yesterday. 500mcg of BPC 157 / 500mcg of TB500 once a day 5 days a week. Will be interesting to see how it affects some of my nagging issues like tendonitis in my right elbow that just wont go away. @Blackbird_Pilot hows that elbow? Any relief? |
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: ordered NAD from Nex Wednesday night...it was on my doorstep Friday afternoon!  reconned 250mg NAD with 2ml BAC...25mg dose is 20u. Combined with MOTS-C 3.3mg dose was a 36u in a 50u syringe  My OHP workout shortly after went NICE 
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Just finished up about 4 weeks of MOTS-C (40mg vial). I will say, my cardio warmups on the treadmill have become less "burdensome" with about a 10bpm reduction in average and peak HR. So that's awesome! SS31 came in the other day, and I'll be running that for a few weeks before starting the MOTS-C up again. NAD still 25mg x 2 week CJC/IPA 250mcg 5 days Reta staying at 2mg week (down to 217lbs, so a 25lbs weightloss since February) Wife is starting to question if I'm addicted to Peps....she was the one who wanted to start Reta in the first place So I got some PT141
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| I told my wife last year I had looked into it and might try it if I got no resolution of shoulder pain doing stretching and strengthening exercises. Well I bought what I needed and started in Feb. I didn’t even think about it and she got all weird when she found me giving myself a bpc/tb4 injection with my shirt half off. After a quick explanation no fuss from her but she would NEVER do it she’s a baby about needles. |
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Originally Posted By CapedCrusader: I've been injecting GLOW for 8 days and it seems like my lower back pain is improving. Have you run BOC-157/TB-4 or 500 before? |
There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
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For anyone curious about Pens: I finally loaded up the V3 version with my next vial of SS31 (since it's a daily)...honestly, it was (even) less painful then a normal 31ga syringe. Now i kinda want to put all my peps in pens People don't really talk about the amount of "sharps" waste 50-100u syringes take up, especially if your running multiple daily peps a week. And please don't look into my ambo's sharps bin
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: For anyone curious about Pens: I finally loaded up the V3 version with my next vial of SS31 (since it's a daily)...honestly, it was (even) less painful then a normal 31ga syringe. Now i kinda want to put all my peps in pens People don't really talk about the amount of "sharps" waste 50-100u syringes take up, especially if your running multiple daily peps a week. And please don't look into my ambo's sharps bin I use empty dishwasher detergent containers, vitamin bottles, or creatine containers. ETA: Pens rock and insisting using syringes seems like a pain in the ass. I like loading the cartridge and use that as my filter point. |
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Originally Posted By v188: I was getting ready to order 5 Amino and MOTS. Seemed from research to be a good thing. Wondering if i should use SS and not take 5 amino? 68 yoa male. From what I understand, the SS-31 helps to stabilize and repair damaged mitochondria and the MOTS-C helps the cells to make more energy. Sort of. Layman's paraphrase. |
There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
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Originally Posted By v188: Landshark, To to what do you attribute the rash/bump? MOTS, SS, both or not really sure. I dont want to buy a kit of 10 MOTS and break out and not use them. Im hoping its the SS. Thanks it was at the injection site. Allergic reaction, so YMMV. Not everyone will react. I get itching from SS-31 but it is gone in 2-5min. Could just be irritation due to dispersion. You could get a single vial from the Pep Lair and try that. At least that would be lower financial risk. |
There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
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I get the MOTS-C injection site reaction too...but not until about 24hrs after the injection. Seems to be some debate if it's a true allergic reaction or not...as in the Histamine and Mast cell degranulation attacking the compound (risk of going systemic) or if the compound causes the degranulation as a function in itself (staying local). I've been playing around with dosage and dilutions, but my 40mg vials don't give me much room. |
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: I get the MOTS-C injection site reaction too...but not until about 24hrs after the injection. Seems to be some debate if it's a true allergic reaction or not...as in the Histamine and Mast cell degranulation attacking the compound (risk of going systemic) or if the compound causes the degranulation as a function in itself (staying local). I've been playing around with dosage and dilutions, but my 40mg vials don't give me much room. It took a solid week for the last one to go completely away. I'll have to look into "degranulation" and see what that is. thx |
There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
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Originally Posted By Callahan: Been dabbing in peptides for the last 2 months. Kind of tired of paying $80-$120 a vial. Anyone with a gray market hookup want to DM me? Google stg peptides, it's the first result. Read all the stickies thoroughly, they're important to understand. |
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: Reta since February, and down over 15lbs. I about shit when I saw 228 on the scale...it's been several years since I was under 230. This is with a 2mg a week schedule (1mg x 2) however, my weights on the barbell have fallen also, so I'll be getting a 10mg vial of CJC/IPA soon to run a trial on. Looking into a 300mcg nightly schedule...but might ramp up instead. also very curious on a mitochondrial regimen, but SS31 seem so damn expensive for a 10 vial kit that I won't need. Originally Posted By Flashover343: Originally Posted By CapedCrusader: Anybody trying any new peptides? Reta since February, and down over 15lbs. I about shit when I saw 228 on the scale...it's been several years since I was under 230. This is with a 2mg a week schedule (1mg x 2) however, my weights on the barbell have fallen also, so I'll be getting a 10mg vial of CJC/IPA soon to run a trial on. Looking into a 300mcg nightly schedule...but might ramp up instead. also very curious on a mitochondrial regimen, but SS31 seem so damn expensive for a 10 vial kit that I won't need. Started Reta March 1, 259lbs, last Sunday, 222lbs. 4 belt holes and I can now tuck in my shirt without looking ridiculous. Face/neck trimmed down also. I tried the Mediterranean diet and Keto but gut still stayed there. Not a big workout guy. I walk the dog 2 miles four or five times a week. 68 years old. I have way more energy eating carbs again, but I eat them in much more reasonable amounts. Half of a baked potato and half of a steak, veggies is a full meal, easily. It really is amazing. Bought a pen last week, game changer. Easy Peezy. Should’ve read the directions though, blew out about $100 worth of Reta cause I didn’t have the relief valve/needle in. 🫣😤🙀 Well, lesson learned. Yeah, dumbass is appropriate. |
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down to 205-207...so almost 40lbs down since Feb. had labs drawn Attached File IGF seems fine for being 2 weeks into an off cycle of CJC/IPA Test is in that shitty grey area
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Originally Posted By Flashover343: down to 205-207...so almost 40lbs down since Feb. had labs drawn https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/346272/Screenshot_labs_06_26_jpeg-3783814.JPG IGF seems fine for being 2 weeks into an off cycle of CJC/IPA Test is in that shitty grey area |
There is not a more violent principle in the world than conscience misinformed. - Matthew Henry
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. - C.S Lewis
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I’m bumping this to see what the latest developments in peptides for strength and performance. I’ve been off everything but creatine and other supplements for about 5 months. If anyone cares, my stack: Pure encapsulations: Multi vitamin Vitamin D K2 Magnesium Quercitin Curcumin Berberine Creatine 10g 2x day. Aminos 250-300g of protein per day. I’ve been doing “keto” for about 5 weeks and I feel great. I’ll probably start adding some carbs back in. Hovering at 203lbs and 12-13% body fat depending on how and when i measure. I’ve also kicked most of my lingering pains, except for my lower back issues, by focusing on form, not max weight. Always looking for the best middle age-advantage boosters. And now it’s time for leg day. Both the best and worst day of the week. |
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