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1/23/2025 10:08:23 AM EDT
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7/198
1/24/2025 8:07:27 PM EDT
[#2]
5/203

Got some trekking poles delivered.  Wife and kids are going out for the morning so I’m going to hit up the local forest preserve tomorrow and plan to get a good 15-20 miles in on the trails.
1/25/2025 11:48:25 AM EDT
[#3]
6 / 209

Pacing a half marathon tomorrow.
Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
1/25/2025 5:02:38 PM EDT
[#4]
20/223

2350’ of elevation gain. I think I found a pretty good practice loop at the forest reserve.

Only fell and ate shit one time, lol.
1/25/2025 6:03:58 PM EDT
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@Commander_Keen

Which pace are you?  Do you use your watch to stick to the correct pace?  

That being said, do you have 3d distance or 3d speed enabled on your settings for runs?  Curious as to how much of a difference it actually makes.
1/25/2025 6:20:38 PM EDT
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@Commander_Keen

Which pace are you?  Do you use your watch to stick to the correct pace?  

That being said, do you have 3d distance or 3d speed enabled on your settings for runs?  Curious as to how much of a difference it actually makes.
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Pacing a half marathon tomorrow.


@Commander_Keen

Which pace are you?  Do you use your watch to stick to the correct pace?  

That being said, do you have 3d distance or 3d speed enabled on your settings for runs?  Curious as to how much of a difference it actually makes.


@Trod7308

I'm pacing the 90 minute group. The official guidelines are "up to a minute fast, but never slower".

I'll use my watch with the "Race Screen" Garmin CIQ data field enabled.
Essentially you tell it your race distance and goal time and it will tell you how far ahead/behind you are and what your anticipated finish time is based on whatever your current pace is.

The "magic" of the data field is that when you hit the lap button at a mile (or km) marker it rounds off the distance it shows you the actual race distance (disregarding any GPS drift, extra distance because you ran off the tangents...) and uses that to inform the anticipated finish time.

It's really slick, and I use it for all my races, whether pacing or not.

The only time I've ever used 3D distance/speed is when downhill skiing. I think it's enabled by default for that activity.
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1/25/2025 7:44:19 PM EDT
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@Trod7308

I'm pacing the 90 minute group. The official guidelines are "up to a minute fast, but never slower".

I'll use my watch with the "Race Screen" Garmin CIQ data field enabled.
Essentially you tell it your race distance and goal time and it will tell you how far ahead/behind you are and what your anticipated finish time is based on whatever your current pace is.

The "magic" of the data field is that when you hit the lap button at a mile (or km) marker it rounds off the distance it shows you the actual race distance (disregarding any GPS drift, extra distance because you ran off the tangents...) and uses that to inform the anticipated finish time.

It's really slick, and I use it for all my races, whether pacing or not.

The only time I've ever used 3D distance/speed is when downhill skiing. I think it's enabled by default for that activity.
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Thanks. Just put it in my garmin IQ and my in my “run” data fields.



1/25/2025 9:52:23 PM EDT
[#8]
15.3/135

Next weekend is planned for 19 on my long run, then the taper begins. I am so ready for it.

Marathon training has kicked my ass. Easily the hardest thing I've done. Sadly I don't see my long runs really getting easier. I know the taper is supposed to be magical, but 26.2 is going to hurt. I'm going to do it, then I'm looking forward to sleeping in and giving my body a break
1/26/2025 9:06:37 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm late, but I'm in.  Only got 12.5 miles so far, I am coming back from a heel injury.  

Doing a slow 6 miler today.  I have been training for a half-marathon on Feb 23, and my left heel starting hurting about 8 miles in to a 10 mile run.  It appears to be Planters.  

Did a 5k run yesterday and it felt fine.  

So yesterday = 3.1 / 12.5

1/26/2025 2:54:12 PM EDT
[#10]
7/230
1/26/2025 4:07:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Advance][Edited] [#11]
6/62

Found a fine gravel 1 mile lap around the elementary school about a mile from my house. Man, that trail is easy to run on! Longest run before today was about 3.5 miles. Today I put in 6 miles before I realized I was breaking the "never go beyond 10% of your typical run distance" rule.

WHO'S GONNA CARRY THE LOGS?!!?!!
1/26/2025 6:36:36 PM EDT
[#12]
6/ 18.5

1/26/2025 8:41:02 PM EDT
[#13]
12JAN2025 2/15.75
19JAN2025 3.25/19
25JAN2025 4.25/23.25
26JAN2025 6.5/29.75
1/26/2025 9:17:27 PM EDT
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6/62

Found a fine gravel 1 mile lap around the elementary school about a mile from my house. Man, that trail is easy to run on! Longest run before today was about 3.5 miles. Today I put in 6 miles before I realized I was breaking the "never go beyond 10% of your typical run distance" rule.

WHO'S GONNA CARRY THE LOGS?!!?!!
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Sounds like you got into a nice groove. Those are the best runs, when the miles just click away
1/27/2025 7:05:43 AM EDT
[#15]
Run 3/walk 3
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1/27/2025 10:53:38 AM EDT
[#16]
9 / 235.41

Paced the half marathon yesterday (2 warmup, 2 cooldown, 13.x race). My watch ended up showing quite a bit different than the (unmeasured) course markings, so that was fun.
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1/27/2025 11:37:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Commander_Keen:
9 / 235.41

Paced the half marathon yesterday (2 warmup, 2 cooldown, 13.x race). My watch ended up showing quite a bit different than the (unmeasured) course markings, so that was fun.
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Can you detail that a bit for me?  I am new to anything over a 5k.  Can you list your race pace, and then what you do for your warm up and cooldown?  I am not pace comparing, but knowing your race pace will help me understand the differences.

I plan on keeping an 11 minute mile pace at my first Half-Marathon next month.  I'm 63, and have been back to running for about a year and a half.
1/27/2025 12:48:29 PM EDT
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Can you detail that a bit for me?  I am new to anything over a 5k.  Can you list your race pace, and then what you do for your warm up and cooldown?  I am not pace comparing, but knowing your race pace will help me understand the differences.

I plan on keeping an 11 minute mile pace at my first Half-Marathon next month.  I'm 63, and have been back to running for about a year and a half.
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9 / 235.41

Paced the half marathon yesterday (2 warmup, 2 cooldown, 13.x race). My watch ended up showing quite a bit different than the (unmeasured) course markings, so that was fun.


Can you detail that a bit for me?  I am new to anything over a 5k.  Can you list your race pace, and then what you do for your warm up and cooldown?  I am not pace comparing, but knowing your race pace will help me understand the differences.

I plan on keeping an 11 minute mile pace at my first Half-Marathon next month.  I'm 63, and have been back to running for about a year and a half.


Because I was serving as a guide for anyone wanting to hit my designated target time, that time was one that was well within my abilities - not a struggle at all - so my warmup/cooldown was 2 miles at "whatever the pace ended up being". Mostly just loosening up my legs because it was so cold.

For an actual race from 5k to half marathon I'm probably going to do two miles as a warmup (maybe extending the easy portion another mile for a 5k), starting at a typical easy pace and within that last mile I'll speed up every 1/4 mile or so until I'm running about as fast as I could if I were to go all-out for an hour (what's typically called "threshold" pace). After this I may also do a few 50-100 meters of fast (5k to 1 mile effort) repeats with a ton of rest in between them in the 15 minutes before the race.


Rounding paces off a bit, my last half marathon was ~6:15/mi average. During the warmup I started around 8:30-8:15/mi, then when I started speeding up I would have dropped the pace to ~6:45/mi (a bit slower than marathon effort) for a quarter mile, 6:30/mi for a quarter (about marathon effort), 6:15/mi for a quarter (race pace), and finished around 6 flat (threshold/1 hour effort).

A cooldown would be whatever pace it ends up being, mostly dependent up on how my legs feel. If they're really tight/sore after the race it could be 3 minutes per mile or more slower than race pace, or it could be only 90 seconds/mi slower than race pace.

I'm also a pretty high-mileage runner, so my warmups are longer than most people's.

For you, maybe 1 mile, or 1.5 miles tops. Start super easy, maybe run a minute or two at a bit slower than your goal pace, a minute or two at race pace, maybe a minute a bit faster than that. Enough to get the legs moving properly, but not so much that it'll really take anything out of you before you start.

Will your pace have pace groups? If so, I highly recommend sticking with one. You'd be amazed how much "easier" it is to hold a given pace when you don't have to put any mental energy into that and you can just tag along beside someone else who's doing that mental work for you.
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1/27/2025 1:38:44 PM EDT
[#19]
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Because I was serving as a guide for anyone wanting to hit my designated target time, that time was one that was well within my abilities - not a struggle at all - so my warmup/cooldown was 2 miles at "whatever the pace ended up being". Mostly just loosening up my legs because it was so cold.

For an actual race from 5k to half marathon I'm probably going to do two miles as a warmup (maybe extending the easy portion another mile for a 5k), starting at a typical easy pace and within that last mile I'll speed up every 1/4 mile or so until I'm running about as fast as I could if I were to go all-out for an hour (what's typically called "threshold" pace). After this I may also do a few 50-100 meters of fast (5k to 1 mile effort) repeats with a ton of rest in between them in the 15 minutes before the race.


Rounding paces off a bit, my last half marathon was ~6:15/mi average. During the warmup I started around 8:30-8:15/mi, then when I started speeding up I would have dropped the pace to ~6:45/mi (a bit slower than marathon effort) for a quarter mile, 6:30/mi for a quarter (about marathon effort), 6:15/mi for a quarter (race pace), and finished around 6 flat (threshold/1 hour effort).

A cooldown would be whatever pace it ends up being, mostly dependent up on how my legs feel. If they're really tight/sore after the race it could be 3 minutes per mile or more slower than race pace, or it could be only 90 seconds/mi slower than race pace.

I'm also a pretty high-mileage runner, so my warmups are longer than most people's.

For you, maybe 1 mile, or 1.5 miles tops. Start super easy, maybe run a minute or two at a bit slower than your goal pace, a minute or two at race pace, maybe a minute a bit faster than that. Enough to get the legs moving properly, but not so much that it'll really take anything out of you before you start.

Will your pace have pace groups? If so, I highly recommend sticking with one. You'd be amazed how much "easier" it is to hold a given pace when you don't have to put any mental energy into that and you can just tag along beside someone else who's doing that mental work for you.
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Thank you for taking the time to write all of that. It certainly helps.  
1/27/2025 2:43:14 PM EDT
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Thank you for taking the time to write all of that. It certainly helps.  
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I'm both glad that it could be followed and that it helped!
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1/28/2025 9:23:19 AM EDT
[#21]
5/235
1/28/2025 9:25:27 AM EDT
[#22]
Run 1.

Ran out of time at work
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1/28/2025 12:06:52 PM EDT
[#23]
3/ 21.5
1/30/2025 8:48:23 AM EDT
[#24]
5+8/248
1/30/2025 11:41:43 AM EDT
[#25]
11.92 / 272.45

Headed to the track for a workout. 3 sets of 1,400m at 10k-HM effort, 1km at 5k effort, 600m at 5k effort. 100m walk between each rep, 400m easy between sets.

I chose to do this today (after lifting yesterday and a running workout the day before) because of a much better weather forecast compared to tomorrow. I definitely felt the fatigue in my legs for those 1km intervals, and they were 5-8 seconds slower than I wanted. The rest I hit, but this was definitely a challenging one.
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1/31/2025 11:52:08 PM EDT
[#26]
7/255
2/1/2025 12:01:30 AM EDT
[#27]
4/122
2/1/2025 4:24:33 AM EDT
[#28]
Ran every day of the month. 275.38.
In the Marines I got PT Thrashed on Christmas by our Drill Instructor because he blamed the death of Christ on recruits.
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2/1/2025 7:45:19 AM EDT
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Nice! Good volume, too.
Fear not the weapon, but rather the hand which wields it.
2/1/2025 7:56:24 AM EDT
[#30]
2.5/71

Was on a good streak until I caught some sort of bug on Tues. afternoon. Looking forward to Feb.
2/1/2025 4:25:35 PM EDT
[#31]
14/269
2/1/2025 4:25:45 PM EDT
[#32]
2.25/ 24.75

Today was all treadmill HIIT. Sprints, all-outs, base pace and recoveries followed by base pace at increasing inclines.  

2/1/2025 5:19:46 PM EDT
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Nice! Good volume, too.
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Ran every day of the month. 275.38.


Nice! Good volume, too.


Thanks! Goal for February is at least 225. Next race is a qualifier for the 25th Infantry Division 10 mile team in June. Going to slowly increase my tempo/race pace runs to start getting ready. Today was 10 miles at 6:40 pace, and goal for the qualifier is as close to 6:00 as I can get.
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2/1/2025 6:29:36 PM EDT
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Thanks! Goal for February is at least 225. Next race is a qualifier for the 25th Infantry Division 10 mile team in June. Going to slowly increase my tempo/race pace runs to start getting ready. Today was 10 miles at 6:40 pace, and goal for the qualifier is as close to 6:00 as I can get.
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Ran every day of the month. 275.38.


Nice! Good volume, too.


Thanks! Goal for February is at least 225. Next race is a qualifier for the 25th Infantry Division 10 mile team in June. Going to slowly increase my tempo/race pace runs to start getting ready. Today was 10 miles at 6:40 pace, and goal for the qualifier is as close to 6:00 as I can get.


10 at 6:40 isn't slouching, but 6 flat for that far is on a different level entirely.
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2/1/2025 7:09:18 PM EDT
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Thanks! Goal for February is at least 225. Next race is a qualifier for the 25th Infantry Division 10 mile team in June. Going to slowly increase my tempo/race pace runs to start getting ready. Today was 10 miles at 6:40 pace, and goal for the qualifier is as close to 6:00 as I can get.
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Total beast mode.  Wow
2/1/2025 7:10:18 PM EDT
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Dupe
2/1/2025 7:26:16 PM EDT
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i walk 3 miles twice a day = 6
365 days a year = 365 x 6 = 2190 miles a year.
Been doing it for awhile.

Beats taking old people medications.

Retired and old 69, along with other weight lifting exercises.

So step it up you youngsteers !!!

2/1/2025 8:04:45 PM EDT
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i walk 3 miles twice a day = 6
365 days a year = 365 x 6 = 2190 miles a year.
Been doing it for awhile.

Beats taking old people medications.

Retired and old 69, along with other weight lifting exercises.

So step it up you youngsteers !!!

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Nice!!  You will go into your later years much better off.


2/2/2025 3:43:13 AM EDT
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10 at 6:40 isn't slouching, but 6 flat for that far is on a different level entirely.
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Ran every day of the month. 275.38.


Nice! Good volume, too.


Thanks! Goal for February is at least 225. Next race is a qualifier for the 25th Infantry Division 10 mile team in June. Going to slowly increase my tempo/race pace runs to start getting ready. Today was 10 miles at 6:40 pace, and goal for the qualifier is as close to 6:00 as I can get.


10 at 6:40 isn't slouching, but 6 flat for that far is on a different level entirely.

To be totally honest I would be thrilled to hold 6:20 for 10 miles. My last 10k race was 6:16 pace.
In the Marines I got PT Thrashed on Christmas by our Drill Instructor because he blamed the death of Christ on recruits.
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2/2/2025 10:59:29 AM EDT
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To be totally honest I would be thrilled to hold 6:20 for 10 miles. My last 10k race was 6:16 pace.
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Ran every day of the month. 275.38.


Nice! Good volume, too.


Thanks! Goal for February is at least 225. Next race is a qualifier for the 25th Infantry Division 10 mile team in June. Going to slowly increase my tempo/race pace runs to start getting ready. Today was 10 miles at 6:40 pace, and goal for the qualifier is as close to 6:00 as I can get.


10 at 6:40 isn't slouching, but 6 flat for that far is on a different level entirely.

To be totally honest I would be thrilled to hold 6:20 for 10 miles. My last 10k race was 6:16 pace.


I could have improved with a bit better pacing (going out faster) and having a flatter course, but even so my last half marathon was just a touch faster than that pace and breaking 60 minutes for 10 miles just seems a world away for me.
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2/2/2025 11:00:02 AM EDT
[#41]
3/8

Taji100 is finally getting me motivated
2/2/2025 11:05:04 PM EDT
[#42]
7/276
2/3/2025 2:40:06 AM EDT
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Tried a new route I’ve been meaning to try for months now and ended up going over 13 on a run where I was planning on 9-10. At least it wasn’t raining.
In the Marines I got PT Thrashed on Christmas by our Drill Instructor because he blamed the death of Christ on recruits.
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2/3/2025 5:14:23 AM EDT
[#44]
2/3/25 run 5 walk 3
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2/3/2025 5:27:08 PM EDT
[#45]
5.5/18.5
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams
2/3/2025 11:19:06 PM EDT
[#46]
4/ 28.75
2/4/2025 5:20:30 AM EDT
[#47]
Walk 3 run 5 2/4/25
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2/4/2025 10:05:46 AM EDT
[#48]
7/283
2/5/2025 4:21:55 AM EDT
[#49]
2/5/25 run 5 walk 3
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2/5/2025 8:55:42 AM EDT
[#50]
9/292

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