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7/19/2016 10:26:27 AM EDT
I just finished up week 12 in the Stronglifts 5X5 program and my squats are getting up there, at least for me (I'm at 230 lbs 5X5).  

Up to now, I have been wearing my running shoes and notice that when the squat gets tough, I tend to lean forward.  A lady at the gym said I'm wearing the wrong shoes, and she's right.  She and another weightlifter at work suggested special built weightlifting shoes.  I am not opposed to paying good money for the right gear, but weightlifting specific shoes are about $150 and I need a new pair of running shoes, which are >$170.

A lady at church who is an avid Crossfitter said she uses Chuck Taylor's and I see those recommended on other weightlifting sites as a lower cost alternative.  

What are your thoughts on saving $100 and buying Chuck Taylor's for squatting and dead lifting?
7/19/2016 10:42:35 AM EDT
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Chucks are fine if you're mobile enough. But are basicly hipster moccasins. They work fine for deads and press too. I squat in squat shoes because of bad mobility in my left ankle. Shoes let me get lower and are more stable for me. Do not use running shoes or anything with a squishy bottom.

Nike Romaleos 2. Love them. I don't use my chucks anymore because I deadlift with nude feet. And with Nike Roms, I'll probably never squat in chucks again.
7/19/2016 10:53:29 AM EDT
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Chucks were popular before hipsters were even a thing, and honestly I see more "normal" people wearing chucks than hipsters.

At any rate if you're a mobile low bar squatter chucks are a good inexpensive choice.
7/19/2016 11:19:03 AM EDT
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I prefer at least a 1/2" heel lifting shoe for squats with a narrow to just outside shoulder width stance. I get better hip drive.

Chucks for sumo.
7/19/2016 12:37:26 PM EDT
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Mark Rippetoe called them hipster moccasins... Not me.
7/19/2016 12:41:39 PM EDT
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I went to Kohl's to get a pair of Converse, they had them on sale and had a mountain of them, but nothing bigger than size 12

They don't even have 14's available on their website.
7/19/2016 12:52:13 PM EDT
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bare feet for both squats and deads

makes a dramatic difference  (although makes it tough to find a gym

running shoes SUCK for squats and deads..
7/19/2016 1:05:56 PM EDT
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Get smaller feet, duh.  Feet that big are dumb.




Barefoot also works.  I like good shoes better but I can squat more barefoot than I can with bad shoes, although some less than with good shoes.  I usually like to dead lift barefoot or in my Nanos.  Nanos are also really good for squats if you've got the ankle mobility.

7/19/2016 1:19:20 PM EDT
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I've done some Crossfit and some lifting in my Vibram Five Finger thingys. They ultimately caught a bad rep for running in but they accomplish the barefoot thing just fine for lifting up heavy things and then dropping them real loud to get chick's attention.
7/19/2016 1:30:43 PM EDT
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If you're powerlifting, no heeled shoe. It will only make your knees go too far forward and make it more difficult to squat properly.
If you're not powerlifting, I'm not your guy.
7/19/2016 9:19:13 PM EDT
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Yeah, I figured that out a few months ago. I pulled the Adidas wrestling shoes I got in college out of the closet and use them to lift. It's a definite improvement.
7/19/2016 9:29:44 PM EDT
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I checked every local shoe store and no one had size 14.  Had to order a pair of Chuck Taylor's from Zappos.
7/19/2016 9:48:10 PM EDT
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I wear 5 fingers. They are the barefoot feel without the bare feet.
7/19/2016 9:49:24 PM EDT
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I've run 100s of miles in mine. It's all how you run.
7/19/2016 9:50:25 PM EDT
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I went from Nike running shoes to Reebok Nano 5s. Massive difference
7/19/2016 10:14:12 PM EDT
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Can anyone tell me how the Nike Romaleos fit compared to the metcon?

I have yet to find a pair of romaleos locally to try on.
7/19/2016 10:25:26 PM EDT
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My romas fit very true to size.  I don't have the metcon, but they fit like almost every other shoe.

7/20/2016 12:35:11 AM EDT
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If you're low bar squatting, I've been liking flat shoes more.

But for high bar, front squats or cleans, I'd definitely want weightlifting shoes. I've had VS athletic ones and they've held up well enough for years now

I'm so hipster, they don't even make the shoes I've been lifting in anymore

7/20/2016 9:09:40 AM EDT
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The romaleo and the metcon are different enough that if one fits, the other might not. The romaleo is wider for sure, Nike metcons are too tight on my wide-ass feet, but the Romaleos are "just right".



OP, why not look at a Nano? You could run in it better than a chuck, and it has a low solid heel and a nice flat sole. I have done plenty of lighter weight squats in Nanos, though I will say buying a pair of nice Adipowers or Romaleos is way more of a solid investment than a pair of running shoes. Running shoes are a consumable, and you have to budget them as such. A good weightlifting shoe, used only for lifting weights, will last years.
7/20/2016 9:50:58 AM EDT
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The romaleo and the metcon are different enough that if one fits, the other might not. The romaleo is wider for sure, Nike metcons are too tight on my wide-ass feet, but the Romaleos are "just right".

OP, why not look at a Nano? You could run in it better than a chuck, and it has a low solid heel and a nice flat sole. I have done plenty of lighter weight squats in Nanos, though I will say buying a pair of nice Adipowers or Romaleos is way more of a solid investment than a pair of running shoes. Running shoes are a consumable, and you have to budget them as such. A good weightlifting shoe, used only for lifting weights, will last years.
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Right now it is about cost savings.  I buy Brooks (Dyad or Glycerin) to run in and I am getting a new pair of them this week at about $170-$180.  The Chucks are an inexpensive ($55) stop gap for now.

I am sure in the next 6 months I will buy a nice pair of purpose built weight lifting shoes.  

You're right about running shoes being consumable.  I hear people say they get 400 miles out of a pair of running shoes, I get less than 200 miles, I guess I'm not lightfoot.  
7/20/2016 2:55:47 PM EDT
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7/20/2016 3:04:38 PM EDT
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          Mine were $70 at eastbay.com

          Very comfy, tongue makes it weird to put on. 9.5/10, would buy again.

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Yeah. You can find sales though.


          Mine were $70 at eastbay.com

          Very comfy, tongue makes it weird to put on. 9.5/10, would buy again.

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With the 6s out now, Amazon has 5s at awesome prices
7/20/2016 3:48:59 PM EDT
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So what's the deal with nanos? Are they worth the money?






Yeah. You can find sales though.




          Mine were $70 at eastbay.com



          Very comfy, tongue makes it weird to put on. 9.5/10, would buy again.



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With the 6s out now, Amazon has 5s at awesome prices

Maybe not for OP's fuckin' huge hobbit feet though.

 
7/20/2016 3:51:26 PM EDT
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7/20/2016 4:17:57 PM EDT
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Good point
7/20/2016 4:30:15 PM EDT
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Whatever happened to Do-Wins? I have a pair of Rogue Do-Wins that my wife bought for me a few years ago and they're still going strong. They're wider in the toe than some of the other options and used to be fairly inexpensive at about $100.
7/20/2016 4:43:50 PM EDT
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Whatever happened to Do-Wins? I have a pair of Rogue Do-Wins that my wife bought for me a few years ago and they're still going strong. They're wider in the toe than some of the other options and used to be fairly inexpensive at about $100.
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Muscledriver went out of business and, subsequently, so did all the Pendlay shit. And the rogue do-wins were just rebranded pendlays.

 


My do-wins didn't hold up well. Lasted only about a year before the strap stitching started to come apart and the sole separate from the body at the toe.



Meanwhile, year 2 on my Romaleos and they look...basically new, nevermind I've lifted far far more weight in them than i ever did in the do-wins.
7/20/2016 6:34:57 PM EDT
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The romaleo and the metcon are different enough that if one fits, the other might not. The romaleo is wider for sure, Nike metcons are too tight on my wide-ass feet, but the Romaleos are "just right".

OP, why not look at a Nano? You could run in it better than a chuck, and it has a low solid heel and a nice flat sole. I have done plenty of lighter weight squats in Nanos, though I will say buying a pair of nice Adipowers or Romaleos is way more of a solid investment than a pair of running shoes. Running shoes are a consumable, and you have to budget them as such. A good weightlifting shoe, used only for lifting weights, will last years.
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Completely agree. With how much I spend on running shoes in a year; I could buy a single pay of sweet ass lifting shoes that would last me forever
7/20/2016 6:40:57 PM EDT
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I can't wait for the Romaleo 3s to come out.

They'll be my third pair of high end lifting shoes
7/20/2016 6:47:20 PM EDT
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Maybe not for OP's fuckin' huge hobbit feet though.  





I've got a brand new pair of Nano 5s if anyone wants them. Call it, and IM me. I tried size 9.5 and they were too small. I'm in a 10 now (they fit), and am too lazy to send the 9.5s back to try and get the refund. I wore them maybe 5 times aroumd the office and house. Still new.  

I'd give them to the OP, but he has feet like friggin Sasquatch.
7/20/2016 6:58:58 PM EDT
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These have been really good so far. Nice for boxing as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Reebok-Mens-RCF-Training-Black/dp/B00ILNZEG8/ref=sr_1_12?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1469055367&sr=1-12&nodeID=7141123011&keywords=crossfit+reebok



I use them when I box, squat, dead lift, power clean, etc. Wearing running shoes for those lifts is pretty rough on your knees. These or chucks come close to squatting barefoot.
7/20/2016 8:57:54 PM EDT
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Muscledriver went out of business and, subsequently, so did all the Pendlay shit. And the rogue do-wins were just rebranded pendlays.  
My do-wins didn't hold up well. Lasted only about a year before the strap stitching started to come apart and the sole separate from the body at the toe.

Meanwhile, year 2 on my Romaleos and they look...basically new, nevermind I've lifted far far more weight in them than i ever did in the do-wins.
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Whatever happened to Do-Wins? I have a pair of Rogue Do-Wins that my wife bought for me a few years ago and they're still going strong. They're wider in the toe than some of the other options and used to be fairly inexpensive at about $100.
Muscledriver went out of business and, subsequently, so did all the Pendlay shit. And the rogue do-wins were just rebranded pendlays.  
My do-wins didn't hold up well. Lasted only about a year before the strap stitching started to come apart and the sole separate from the body at the toe.

Meanwhile, year 2 on my Romaleos and they look...basically new, nevermind I've lifted far far more weight in them than i ever did in the do-wins.



Yes and no. The Rogue Do-Wins were a double-strapped, suede version of the 2010 Pendlay Do-wins, which were single-strap and leather. The later Pendlay models were different in several ways, including the sole, heel, and strap configuration. Almost a completely different shoe.
7/21/2016 9:47:54 AM EDT
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These have been really good so far. Nice for boxing as well.



https://www.amazon.com/Reebok-Mens-RCF-Training-Black/dp/B00ILNZEG8/ref=sr_1_12?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1469055367&sr=1-12&nodeID=7141123011&keywords=crossfit+reebok



http://www.reebok.com/dwstatic/sits_pod27/dw/image/v2/AAJP_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-reebok-products/en_US/dw2960c5f9/zoom/V59968_01.jpg?sw=2000&sfrm=jpg



I use them when I box, squat, dead lift, power clean, etc. Wearing running shoes for those lifts is pretty rough on your knees. These or chucks come close to squatting barefoot.
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I wear the lowtop versions of these every day. Comfy, mobile, and no one at work hassles me. The "Lite TR" is basically a powerlifting shoe that you could wear to the grocery store, great shoe.

 
7/21/2016 9:52:08 AM EDT
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Yes and no. The Rogue Do-Wins were a double-strapped, suede version of the 2010 Pendlay Do-wins, which were single-strap and leather. The later Pendlay models were different in several ways, including the sole, heel, and strap configuration. Almost a completely different shoe.
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Well ok but my point was that when pendlay went TU, so did the Do-Wins, and that I wasn't impressed with my Pendlay Do-Wins, compared to the Romaleo. So yeah, they weren't identical, but they aren't available either.

 
7/22/2016 1:21:06 PM EDT
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I adore the Asics Gel Fortius. Most solid, planted feeling shoe I've ever lifted in.

They average around ~$70, but certain color schemes can easily be found for ~$30, especially at the local asics store/outlet in the malls.

7/22/2016 1:21:18 PM EDT
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double tap
7/22/2016 2:47:02 PM EDT
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i just go barefoot, sometimes i forget theat i'm wearing teevas too.
7/22/2016 4:45:17 PM EDT
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I was bummed when Altra discontinued those shoes.

I have found these to be a nice alternative and great training shoe...

https://www.amazon.com/Topo-Athletic-Halsa-Training-Running/dp/B00TQ6M3YA/ref=pd_sim_309_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=414zliD5cKL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=G1GGFWMEP65SE889EEX7

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If you're low bar squatting, I've been liking flat shoes more.

But for high bar, front squats or cleans, I'd definitely want weightlifting shoes. I've had VS athletic ones and they've held up well enough for years now

I'm so hipster, they don't even make the shoes I've been lifting in anymore

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7/23/2016 11:44:25 PM EDT
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I use a cheap walmart copy of low top chucks.
7/25/2016 9:30:38 PM EDT
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Turns out 14 was too big in these, had to send them back and get 13's.

Dash approves of the Chucks

7/25/2016 9:35:35 PM EDT
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Turns out 14 was too big in these, had to send them back and get 13's.

Dash approves of the Chucks

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Chucks can run large for most.
7/25/2016 9:37:25 PM EDT
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Turns out 14 was too big in these, had to send them back and get 13's.

Dash approves of the Chucks

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/Ironmaker/8299AA93-D0C4-42D9-9E15-4BB7F82A7669_zpsok2cyzio.jpg


Chucks can run large for most.


Yes, good thing Zappos has free shipping both ways.  
7/26/2016 4:06:36 PM EDT
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I forget what my wife uses, but she and her personal trainer saw marked improvement in her stability which translated to strength.

As soon as I can ask her for the shoe/maker she is using, I'll post here.
7/28/2016 8:46:19 PM EDT
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A long, long time ago, when I was power lifting and working out jeavy, I liked wrestling shoes...Nike, IIRC...

Worked for me....
7/28/2016 8:57:04 PM EDT
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I worked out today for the first time with the Chuck's, I could really tell a difference.  

Thanks for all of the suggestions.
7/29/2016 12:48:57 PM EDT
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Wrestling shoes
7/30/2016 10:13:46 AM EDT
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I'm using a pair of Adidas PowerLift (2.0?) with a 3/4" heel lift.  
DH just got a pair of Reebok  Nano 2.0's and likes them better than the Chucks he was  using.
7/30/2016 10:30:56 AM EDT
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I wouldn't listen to this guy on anything foot related. He has problems walking.
7/30/2016 2:58:56 PM EDT
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I wouldn't listen to this guy on anything foot related. He has problems walking.

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8/2/2016 9:20:48 AM EDT
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I bought a pair of "used" adipowers on ebay for $100.  I think they were worn once or twice.

Since I have screws in my ankle, mobility is lacking.  It definitely helped my form.  I only wear them for squats and bench.  Everything else I wear merrell trail gloves.
8/2/2016 1:34:32 PM EDT
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I wear 5 fingers. They are the barefoot feel without the bare feet.
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bare feet for both squats and deads

makes a dramatic difference  (although makes it tough to find a gym

running shoes SUCK for squats and deads..


I wear 5 fingers. They are the barefoot feel without the bare feet.


Another 5 fingers fan here.
I walk and run in mine and love em.
Haven't tried lifting in them at all though.