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3/4/2013 11:09:18 AM EDT
I've finally started working out again after a several year break.  Right before I quit lifting, I was bench pressing (incline, flat, decline) 85lbs dumbbells.  I try to stay away from the bar and weights because my left arm is weaker and I tend to lift my left shoulder.  The dumbbells force me to use each arm independently and balance them out.  I've lost strength and can only push 60lbs for 10 reps which means I have a ways to go before I get back to where I was.

I've also started taking protein again using the same stuff as last time, Wheybolitic Extreme 60.  It never bothered me before but this stuff is Drano for me now.  I'm not sure if its the 60g of protein or the whey but I need to find something else.  I've seen that they make a soy-based protein but know nothing about it.  Is it a good quality protein or is there something else on the market I can try?

Thanks
3/4/2013 11:15:05 AM EDT
[#1]
I would stay away from soy personally.  I have heard some things about it messing with hormones in a weird way and would rather just stick with other types.    

Maybe you can trying cutting back the whey and upping your intake of meats instead?
3/4/2013 11:16:50 AM EDT
[#2]
You should try some NO-Xplode.  
3/4/2013 11:22:07 AM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


You should try some NO-Xplode.  


Joking hopefully? It's not even a protein supp.

 









OP- it may be 60g all at once, I've heard of people having that issue...it could also be the whey. Try a half serving and see if 30g still does it, if it does maybe try some beef protein like Carnivore to see if it's the whey (never used it, but guys seem to like it)
3/4/2013 11:30:46 AM EDT
[#4]
I dunno I always have the opposite problem with protein powders.
3/4/2013 11:32:44 AM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


I've finally started working out again after a several year break.  Right before I quit lifting, I was bench pressing (incline, flat, decline) 85lbs dumbbells.  I try to stay away from the bar and weights because my left arm is weaker and I tend to lift my left shoulder.  The dumbbells force me to use each arm independently and balance them out.  I've lost strength and can only push 60lbs for 10 reps which means I have a ways to go before I get back to where I was.



I've also started taking protein again using the same stuff as last time, Wheybolitic Extreme 60.  It never bothered me before but this stuff is Drano for me now.  I'm not sure if its the 60g of protein or the whey but I need to find something else.  I've seen that they make a soy-based protein but know nothing about it.  Is it a good quality protein or is there something else on the market I can try?



Thanks


60g is a lot in one sitting.

 



Is there a chance you're lactose intolerant?




Do you get a lot of gas from it?  If so, either get protein that comes with a protease enzyme or buy the enzymes separately.
3/4/2013 11:50:35 AM EDT
[#6]
My tolerance built over time.   25g used to tear me up at first but now I can take 50g in one serving and never have any issues.

Try a smaller amount at first.
3/4/2013 12:02:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Soy is recognized by the body as estrogen!  Optimum Nutrition Gold FTW!  Your body is tryng to get used to the added protein...dont worry!  The shits will go back to normal soon.
3/4/2013 12:17:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Normal for a lot of people, your body will adjust over time.

Stay away from anything Soy/soybean
3/4/2013 12:46:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Optimum Nutrition is win. It even tastes ok in water.
3/4/2013 12:49:59 PM EDT
[#10]
It might be the lactose. Try one that's lactose free.  
3/4/2013 3:08:20 PM EDT
[#11]
Optimum Nutrition gets my vote too. If u want some creatine, ON HYDROBUILDER has 30 grams of protein and 5 grams of creatine in it
3/4/2013 3:45:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Carnivor.





Do it.





you're welcome.
3/4/2013 6:07:21 PM EDT
[#13]
Im a fan of Dymatize. I havent tried one that I didnt thoroughly enjoy.  Also reasonably priced.

Quoted:
Soy is recognized by the body as estrogen!


Not true.

Quoted:
Stay away from anything Soy/soybean


Old advice.

Rebuttal
3/4/2013 7:24:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Carnivor.


Do it.


you're welcome.


+ yes.
3/4/2013 8:02:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Im a fan of Dymatize. I havent tried one that I didnt thoroughly enjoy.  Also reasonably priced.

Quoted:
Soy is recognized by the body as estrogen!


Not true.

Quoted:
Stay away from anything Soy/soybean


Old advice.

Rebuttal


my main issue with soy its that its a GMO.
3/4/2013 9:39:34 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Carnivor.





Do it.





you're welcome.




+ yes.




 
+1




You can try Isopure, also, it can be expensive but I have no problems with it and I am lactose intolerant
3/7/2013 2:48:41 AM EDT
[#17]
Beverly International UMP.

the best tasting protein shake EVER

I have tried muscle milk, ON, and several other cheaper options and technically i am not lactose intolerant.   but mixing any of those on the left I have horrible "egg" farts all day long.

UMP is more expensive but i don't have that problem at ALL.
3/7/2013 3:56:01 AM EDT
[#18]

my main issue with soy its that its a GMO.


Anti-GMO is the worst; it is not based in science.

For the record ALL corn, wheat, rice, barley, tomatoes and potatoes are GMO. Most of what you know as a food crop, does not exist in a recognizable, or even useful form in the wild.
3/7/2013 6:44:13 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Carnivor.


Do it.


you're welcome.


This man speaks the truth, I am glad I took the advice of folks here and switched to Carnivor. Pricey, but if you really look around online you can find deals on the big jugs.
3/7/2013 6:50:36 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:

my main issue with soy its that its a GMO.


Anti-GMO is the worst; it is not based in science.

For the record ALL corn, wheat, rice, barley, tomatoes and potatoes are GMO. Most of what you know as a food crop, does not exist in a recognizable, or even useful form in the wild.


There's a difference between GMO, and the shite that Monsanto is pushing into the mainstream these days. Monsanto GMO's ARE terrible for you, and terrible for livestock as well.
3/7/2013 7:15:52 AM EDT
[#21]
Someone recommended trying an orange-cream flavored something. Protein or supplement of some kind. I want to say darktide but I can't find the thread. Anyone know?
3/7/2013 7:28:33 AM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


Someone recommended trying an orange-cream flavored something. Protein or supplement of some kind. I want to say darktide but I can't find the thread. Anyone know?


It was the Matrix 5.0

 
3/7/2013 8:25:29 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Someone recommended trying an orange-cream flavored something. Protein or supplement of some kind. I want to say darktide but I can't find the thread. Anyone know?

It was the Matrix 5.0  


Gratzi
3/7/2013 5:19:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Carnivor is the best tasting protien I've had.  

HOWEVER

If I have more than 1-2 servings of carnivor per day, my ass is spurting like a broken fire hydrant for 3 days.

Got a mental image?  You're welcome.
3/8/2013 6:06:31 AM EDT
[#25]
So do you guys have fucked up diets otherwise?
3/8/2013 3:23:33 PM EDT
[#26]
I eat pizza and drink loads of juice and soda...



But I'm getting ripped cuz I drink a protein shake after I do my hardcore 20lb kettlebell circuit.




Duh.
3/8/2013 7:16:50 PM EDT
[#27]
I'll second the Isopure vote.  I use zero carb, tastes great, mixes easily with spoon, I really look forward to chugging it after lifting each day.
Two scoops = 50g protein, no digestive issues at all.
3/8/2013 8:50:51 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
I eat pizza and drink loads of juice and soda...

But I'm getting ripped cuz I drink a protein shake after I do my hardcore 20lb kettlebell circuit.

Duh.


Fuck yeah, brah.
3/8/2013 10:29:36 PM EDT
[#29]



Quoted:



Quoted:

I eat pizza and drink loads of juice and soda...



But I'm getting ripped cuz I drink a protein shake after I do my hardcore 20lb kettlebell circuit.




Duh.




Fuck yeah, brah.


Calf raises brah

 
3/9/2013 6:22:36 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
I eat pizza and drink loads of juice and soda...

But I'm getting ripped cuz I drink a protein shake after I do my hardcore 20lb kettlebell circuit.

Duh.


Fuck yeah, brah.

Calf raises brah  


Goddamned Calfies, brah. That's what I'm calling those tiny things now.
3/10/2013 11:41:28 AM EDT
[#31]
I eat a very strict diet of
whole grain pancakes with margarine for breakfast.
Machine processed high nitrate bologna with high glycemic index fruits and healthy, nutrient rich iceburg lettuce for lunch
Dinner is usually pasta with tofu or seton and soy protein shake for dessert.

None of that is true.