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10/29/2011 2:27:44 PM EDT


There's a lot of people wondering what it's like eating paleo/primal...where do you get your carbs from, how do you get enough calories? etc...So I thought I'd log a somewhat typical day eating Primal for me. I've been doing two a days lately, so my calories are probably a little higher than usual- I was also abnormally hungry yesterday morning so I had 6 eggs instead of my usual 5. I probably ate a little more fruit than I normally would too, but I wanted to no kidding log everything I ate yesterday.




The mayo/vinegar/honey is a dressing that I make. The mayo is probably the only thing on here that is technically not Primal. The ground beef was actually a homemade chili, hence the broth on there too. The only thing that may make a difference was the tomatoes in the chili that I forgot to add in. Everything was weighed or measured, although I had to guess a bit on the dressing ingredients.




So as I said, this is a fairly typical day although there's usually sweet potatoes instead of pumpkin (which is also higher in carbs). Although my carb intake was only 16% of total calories, there's still 140g total which is plenty to maintain my non-endurance level of activity. Endurance athletes could pretty easily up their carbs to where they need to be...




body weight is a steady 178#, @ 5'9"  estimated 10% bodyfat, and my cholesterol levels are extremely good




Remember, this is just an example of what I ate yesterday....macronutrient levels can be adjusted to each individual very easily, as well as total calories.




Hope someone finds this useful








































Mmmm....pumpkin...






10/29/2011 4:46:53 PM EDT
[#1]
Good job.  Do you cycle your carbs according to what days you workout?  Do you do a post workout meal?

I'm not quite primal/paleo yet, but I am getting there.

Breakfast: 6 eggs, 2 ounces of olive oil, 2 cups whole milk + whey protein shake, bowl of raw spinach, 4 ounces of vegetable juice

Snack: Apple

Lunch/afternoon snack: 1 pound or so of beef, blueberries, 1 tablespoon of coconut oil

Dinner snack: 1 can of coconut milk + whey protein shake

Dinner: Broccoli and chicken breasts, and on days I lift, an orange with broccoli, milk and spaghetti as a post work-out meal (yeah, I know)

Before bed: 2 ounces of olive oil

Calories on non-workout days: 4057, 258g of fat, 85g carbs, 321g protein

On days I lift (3 days a week):  4947, 271g of fat, 243g carbs, 360g protein

I am 6' tall, 185 pounds, about 18% body fat.

I'm trying to slowly gain weight, and haven't gotten to the point where I can cut out the milk and pasta yet.  I'm going to add high-intensity intervals next week, which will only increase my caloric requirements.

One of the other challenges has been make sure my "good" food is really "good".  I believe there are risks eating a lot of beef that is pumped full of antibiotics and other shit, so about a third of the beef I eat is grass-fed.  (It is $8 a pound here vs $4 for the regular stuff).  The other main concern is from coconut milk.  Most cans contains BPA, and fatty products cause the BPA to leech into the food.  There is one company that uses BPA-free cans, but apparently they changed their production to Sri Lanka and the milk is really runny now according to a lot of review.  Anyway, it seems like humans have even managed to fuck up the good foods.
10/29/2011 5:19:37 PM EDT
[#2]
A typical paleo/primal day for me while deployed:












Breakfast:




2 chicken breasts, grilled, skinless(ish)




about a cup of whatever vegetable is being served, preferably carrots or broccoli. Today was asparagus.













Lunch:




2 chicken breasts, grilled, skinless(ish)




~1/4 cup sliced jalapenos

again, about a cup of whatever veggie is being served




Salad with iceberg/romaine lettuce, cucumber, carrots, bell peppers, broccoli, and lemon juice and olive oil.













Dinner:




2 eggs fried hard, with diced tomatoes and jalapenos




4ish strips of bacon













Throughout the day, if I get hungry I'll snack on almonds or cashews. Lately the PX has had this awesome dried fruit mix so I've been munching on that. I'll also typically eat a piece or two of fruit a day. Usually an apple, nectarine, or banana. I can't wait to get home and start cooking my own primal meals, though.










ETA: Taco mondays are my favorite day for salads:










Lettuce (romaine/iceberg)



Sliced tomatoes



Bell Peppers



Jalapenos



Heaps of ground beef with taco seasoning



Salsa










Mmmmmmmm, so good.



 
10/29/2011 5:26:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Roland, a bit heavy on the fats?



It may work since you're a fairly active person but a more sedentary person could have trouble with that percentage of fats, I think.
10/29/2011 6:18:05 PM EDT
[#4]
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Roland, a bit heavy on the fats?

It may work since you're a fairly active person but a more sedentary person could have trouble with that percentage of fats, I think.


Real fat is not bad for you....real fat is not bad for you....repeat after me....real fat.

What was your pumpkin recipe?

One of the things I've noticed from the paleo recipes/diet is that things just taste better.  Real food tastes good. Spices and seasoning taste good.
10/29/2011 7:28:37 PM EDT
[#5]



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Good job.  Do you cycle your carbs according to what days you workout?  Do you do a post workout meal?



I'm not quite primal/paleo yet, but I am getting there.



Breakfast: 6 eggs, 2 ounces of olive oil, 2 cups whole milk + whey protein shake, bowl of raw spinach, 4 ounces of vegetable juice



Snack: Apple



Lunch/afternoon snack: 1 pound or so of beef, blueberries, 1 tablespoon of coconut oil



Dinner snack: 1 can of coconut milk + whey protein shake



Dinner: Broccoli and chicken breasts, and on days I lift, an orange with broccoli, milk and spaghetti as a post work-out meal (yeah, I know)



Before bed: 2 ounces of olive oil



Calories on non-workout days: 4057, 258g of fat, 85g carbs, 321g protein



On days I lift (3 days a week):  4947, 271g of fat, 243g carbs, 360g protein



I am 6' tall, 185 pounds, about 18% body fat.



I'm trying to slowly gain weight, and haven't gotten to the point where I can cut out the milk and pasta yet.  I'm going to add high-intensity intervals next week, which will only increase my caloric requirements.



One of the other challenges has been make sure my "good" food is really "good".  I believe there are risks eating a lot of beef that is pumped full of antibiotics and other shit, so about a third of the beef I eat is grass-fed.  (It is $8 a pound here vs $4 for the regular stuff).  The other main concern is from coconut milk.  Most cans contains BPA, and fatty products cause the BPA to leech into the food.  There is one company that uses BPA-free cans, but apparently they changed their production to Sri Lanka and the milk is really runny now according to a lot of review.  Anyway, it seems like humans have even managed to fuck up the good foods.



Yeah I cycle a little bit...basically I save the sweet potatoes for workout days. This method seems to work well for me, I'll gain weight if I eat them too much on rest days, or "easy" days.



I totally agree about the meat. We're pretty close to 100% grass fed on the beef we buy, and in fact we bought half a grass fed bison recently too we do still buy regular pork and chicken...it's all about the $ unfortunately.  

 
10/29/2011 7:29:17 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


A typical paleo/primal day for me while deployed:



Breakfast:

2 chicken breasts, grilled, skinless(ish)

about a cup of whatever vegetable is being served, preferably carrots or broccoli. Today was asparagus.




Lunch:

2 chicken breasts, grilled, skinless(ish)

~1/4 cup sliced jalapenos

again, about a cup of whatever veggie is being served

Salad with iceberg/romaine lettuce, cucumber, carrots, bell peppers, broccoli, and lemon juice and olive oil.




Dinner:

2 eggs fried hard, with diced tomatoes and jalapenos

4ish strips of bacon




Throughout the day, if I get hungry I'll snack on almonds or cashews. Lately the PX has had this awesome dried fruit mix so I've been munching on that. I'll also typically eat a piece or two of fruit a day. Usually an apple, nectarine, or banana. I can't wait to get home and start cooking my own primal meals, though.




ETA: Taco mondays are my favorite day for salads:




Lettuce (romaine/iceberg)

Sliced tomatoes

Bell Peppers

Jalapenos

Heaps of ground beef with taco seasoning

Salsa




Mmmmmmmm, so good.
 


Yeah pretty close to what I did while deployed too, except more eggs

 
10/29/2011 7:33:54 PM EDT
[#7]



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Roland, a bit heavy on the fats?



It may work since you're a fairly active person but a more sedentary person could have trouble with that percentage of fats, I think.




Real fat is not bad for you....real fat is not bad for you....repeat after me....real fat.



What was your pumpkin recipe?



One of the things I've noticed from the paleo recipes/diet is that things just taste better.  Real food tastes good. Spices and seasoning taste good.


Yep, exactly. Remember, the fat I'm getting isn't trans fat, it's good fat with the proper Omega-3 to 6 ratios. The only people that will most likely need to severely adjust those percentages would be endurance athletes IMO...most others should be pretty good somewhat close, although probably fewer overall calories. If I was a bit heavy on the fats I wouldn't be able to do the things I do, while maintaining weight and BF % and good cholesterol

 






Pumpkin recipe was nothing more than pumpkin, with coconut oil brushed on and salt. Cooked at 425 until soft...maybe 45 min or so?

And yeah, real food is GOOD. I never get bored and never feel "cheated"...and I'll tell you what, when I do allow myself regular dessert it's truly a "treat" rather than something I have every day.
10/30/2011 12:30:39 AM EDT
[#8]



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Quoted:

A typical paleo/primal day for me while deployed:



Breakfast:

2 chicken breasts, grilled, skinless(ish)

about a cup of whatever vegetable is being served, preferably carrots or broccoli. Today was asparagus.




Lunch:

2 chicken breasts, grilled, skinless(ish)

~1/4 cup sliced jalapenos

again, about a cup of whatever veggie is being served

Salad with iceberg/romaine lettuce, cucumber, carrots, bell peppers, broccoli, and lemon juice and olive oil.




Dinner:

2 eggs fried hard, with diced tomatoes and jalapenos

4ish strips of bacon




Throughout the day, if I get hungry I'll snack on almonds or cashews. Lately the PX has had this awesome dried fruit mix so I've been munching on that. I'll also typically eat a piece or two of fruit a day. Usually an apple, nectarine, or banana. I can't wait to get home and start cooking my own primal meals, though.




ETA: Taco mondays are my favorite day for salads:




Lettuce (romaine/iceberg)

Sliced tomatoes

Bell Peppers

Jalapenos

Heaps of ground beef with taco seasoning

Salsa




Mmmmmmmm, so good.
 


Yeah pretty close to what I did while deployed too, except more eggs  


It used to be like 4-5 eggs a night, but for some reason the chow hall nearest me suddenly decided to put a 2-egg limit per person. None of the other chow halls have this rule, and they can't explain why they did it.
10/30/2011 7:50:06 AM EDT
[#9]
Dude I'd have been so pissed, that 5 egg scramble was the highlight of my day...

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10/31/2011 4:59:04 AM EDT
[#10]
8 cups of lettuce!!! Really getin your fiber huh

Some of the fat content seems a bit high. Are those your numbers or ones that were already in the program. The eggs seem about right for a fried egg but then I see coconut oil also.
10/31/2011 9:46:39 AM EDT
[#11]


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8 cups of lettuce!!! Really getin your fiber huh



Some of the fat content seems a bit high. Are those your numbers or ones that were already in the program. The eggs seem about right for a fried egg but then I see coconut oil also.


Good point, the fried egg plus the oil may have put it over, didn't think about that.those numbers were already in the program...





ETA- and yeah, at the risk of turning this into a poop thread, one can set their watch by my bowels



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10/31/2011 11:06:00 AM EDT
[#12]
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8 cups of lettuce!!! Really getin your fiber huh

Some of the fat content seems a bit high. Are those your numbers or ones that were already in the program. The eggs seem about right for a fried egg but then I see coconut oil also.

Good point, the fried egg plus the oil may have put it over, didn't think about that.those numbers were already in the program...


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The amount of fat that is actualy ingested from cooking oils is something I have a hard time estimating. Lots of it is left in the pan, on the stove top, evaporated etc.

How did you come up with your volume used?
10/31/2011 11:12:23 AM EDT
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8 cups of lettuce!!! Really getin your fiber huh



Some of the fat content seems a bit high. Are those your numbers or ones that were already in the program. The eggs seem about right for a fried egg but then I see coconut oil also.


Good point, the fried egg plus the oil may have put it over, didn't think about that.those numbers were already in the program...





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The amount of fat that is actualy ingested from cooking oils is something I have a hard time estimating. Lots of it is left in the pan, on the stove top, evaporated etc.



How did you come up with your volume used?




I estimated about half used was soaked up...best I could figure. We use oil to cook A LOT, so even what I entered could be a bit low, but I really think I'm probably within 25% + or -
10/31/2011 11:36:12 AM EDT
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8 cups of lettuce!!! Really getin your fiber huh

Some of the fat content seems a bit high. Are those your numbers or ones that were already in the program. The eggs seem about right for a fried egg but then I see coconut oil also.

Good point, the fried egg plus the oil may have put it over, didn't think about that.those numbers were already in the program...


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The amount of fat that is actualy ingested from cooking oils is something I have a hard time estimating. Lots of it is left in the pan, on the stove top, evaporated etc.

How did you come up with your volume used?


I estimated about half used was soaked up...best I could figure. We use oil to cook A LOT, so even what I entered could be a bit low, but I really think I'm probably within 25% + or -


Probably close enough, back when I used to count cals I would figure about half also. I have looked on other websites before to try to find a better way to guesstimate and they say use the total amount of oil used. I know why they say that but anyone with a brain will know thats a bunch of BS.
10/31/2011 11:51:22 AM EDT
[#15]
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8 cups of lettuce!!! Really getin your fiber huh

Some of the fat content seems a bit high. Are those your numbers or ones that were already in the program. The eggs seem about right for a fried egg but then I see coconut oil also.

Good point, the fried egg plus the oil may have put it over, didn't think about that.those numbers were already in the program...


ETA- and yeah, at the risk of turning this into a poop thread, one can set their watch by my bowels

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The real question - how can you eat only 1/2 cup of brussells sprouts?  I can't believe I avoided them for so long.  Roasting some up tonight and 1/2 head of cauliflower too.
10/31/2011 1:07:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Excellent question,I was wondering if anyone was going to call me out on that lol.the half cup was the leftovers from the huge pile of sprouts from the previous night.I love them!

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10/31/2011 5:08:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Tag.  I'm thinking of doing this.  Milk is ok on primal, right?  I grew up on a dairy so it's a necessity to me.
10/31/2011 6:30:52 PM EDT
[#18]



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Tag.  I'm thinking of doing this.  Milk is ok on primal, right?  I grew up on a dairy so it's a necessity to me.


He recommends to cut out milk, then reintroduce it to see how your body handles it...honestly, out of everything milk would be on the lower end of the priority list to cut out.

 
11/1/2011 12:39:14 PM EDT
[#19]
These diets sound ok- but as in the last thread- As a weight lifter and mountain biker- I must have a lot higher intake of carbs in my diet than what you guys are taking in on the primal diets. I almost consume your total daily carb intake in one meal for me.  Complex carbs are the bomb and wouldn't even try doing without them ... A cup of brown rice and tuna and I'm ready to go... But sounds like you guys have a good solid meal plan going for ya...
11/1/2011 1:57:21 PM EDT
[#20]
As I said earlier and in the other thread you can adjust your carb intake up or down as required.there's nothing magical in rice that you can't get from sweet potatoes or squash. Need more? Then eat more! I workout twice a day most days including heavy lifting (385# squat pr yesterday) and I get by fine. I seriously doubt you actually need the 400g of carbs a day you're getting, but you could easily get that much on primal if you really wanted to.
For like the 50th time, primal is not a no carb diet.

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11/1/2011 2:35:58 PM EDT
[#21]
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Complex carbs are the bomb and wouldn't even try doing without them


What do you believe the macronutrient content of vegetables like squash, broccoli, and bell peppers to be?

Take a look at the micronutrient profile of the above compared to brown rice.

I'm not anti-grain when the caloric density is warranted, but I can't, for the life of me, understand why so many folks equate complex carbohydrates with whole grains and only whole grains.

Actually, even the the caloric density is not warranted, I love a sammich or some pasta, but complex carbohyrates are not exclusively the province of grains.
11/1/2011 3:13:25 PM EDT
[#22]
One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs




One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)








As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.
11/1/2011 3:14:50 PM EDT
[#23]
Does coconut oil have a distinct flavor?  I bought some the other day to use for primal cooking and the jar says it has a neutral taste, but I just want to make sure before I go cooking and ruining a meal.
Thanks
11/1/2011 3:16:56 PM EDT
[#24]



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Does coconut oil have a distinct flavor?  I bought some the other day to use for primal cooking and the jar says it has a neutral taste, but I just want to make sure before I go cooking and ruining a meal.

Thanks


It kind of has light sweet taste.

 
11/1/2011 3:22:40 PM EDT
[#25]



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Does coconut oil have a distinct flavor?  I bought some the other day to use for primal cooking and the jar says it has a neutral taste, but I just want to make sure before I go cooking and ruining a meal.

Thanks


It kind of has light sweet taste.  


This, it's a somewhat delicate sweet taste...not strong at all, but definitely gives food an "essence" of coconut...unless you hate coconut, you'll probably love it. I've used it on all sorts of veggies, as a butter replacement etc and haven't found anything that it doesn't taste good on.

 
11/1/2011 3:40:34 PM EDT
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Does coconut oil have a distinct flavor?  I bought some the other day to use for primal cooking and the jar says it has a neutral taste, but I just want to make sure before I go cooking and ruining a meal.
Thanks

It kind of has light sweet taste.  

This, it's a somewhat delicate sweet taste...not strong at all, but definitely gives food an "essence" of coconut...unless you hate coconut, you'll probably love it. I've used it on all sorts of veggies, as a butter replacement etc and haven't found anything that it doesn't taste good on.  


I don't care much for coconut, something I've never really liked, but will try cooking with it anyhow.

Thanks all!
11/1/2011 4:19:40 PM EDT
[#27]
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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs

One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)


As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.



I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more

11/1/2011 4:42:51 PM EDT
[#28]



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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs




One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)








As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.






I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more





Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.

 



Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.

NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.




As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com
11/1/2011 10:05:19 PM EDT
[#29]



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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs




One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)








As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.






I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more





Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.    



Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.

NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.




As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com



How do you fit in twice a day CF workouts, lifting and running into your .mil timescale?





 
11/2/2011 4:36:00 AM EDT
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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs




One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)








As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.






I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more





Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.    



Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.

NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.




As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com



How do you fit in twice a day CF workouts, lifting and running into your .mil timescale?



 


We go to the 6am CF class then again either at night, or I go to the base gym (or run) at lunch time...

 
11/2/2011 4:50:24 AM EDT
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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs

One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)


As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.



I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more


Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.    

Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.
NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.

As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com

How do you fit in twice a day CF workouts, lifting and running into your .mil timescale?

 

We go to the 6am CF class then again either at night, or I go to the base gym (or run) at lunch time...  


Wow. And you got a bunch of kids to right?  

11/2/2011 4:56:54 AM EDT
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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs




One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)








As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.






I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more





Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.    



Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.

NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.




As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com



How do you fit in twice a day CF workouts, lifting and running into your .mil timescale?



 


We go to the 6am CF class then again either at night, or I go to the base gym (or run) at lunch time...  




Wow. And you got a bunch of kids to right?  




I said this before and I'll say this again, when I grow up, I wanna be just like Roland. Except for the pagan thing.

 
11/2/2011 6:28:53 AM EDT
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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs




One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)








As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.






I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more





Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.    



Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.

NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.




As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com



How do you fit in twice a day CF workouts, lifting and running into your .mil timescale?



 


We go to the 6am CF class then again either at night, or I go to the base gym (or run) at lunch time...  




Wow. And you got a bunch of kids to right?  


I do, luckily the older ones can babysit





 
11/2/2011 6:29:19 AM EDT
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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs




One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)








As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.






I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more





Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.    



Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.

NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.




As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com



How do you fit in twice a day CF workouts, lifting and running into your .mil timescale?



 


We go to the 6am CF class then again either at night, or I go to the base gym (or run) at lunch time...  




Wow. And you got a bunch of kids to right?  




I said this before and I'll say this again, when I grow up, I wanna be just like Roland. Except for the pagan thing.  


I'm not actually pagan, I just like their music  

 
11/2/2011 7:33:14 AM EDT
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One cup of brown rice: 45g of carbs

One cup sweet potato: 41g of carbs (and tastes a whole lot better than rice too IMO)


As I said, one can get as much or as little carbs eating primal as you can with any other diet.



I was just going off your page that said you took in 140g of carbs in a day... I was like wow ???  I just don't know anything about this diet as it seems that there are many forms tweaked by each individual to fit their needs. Some no dairy at all- some very low or no carbs- then some it seems with the same carb and protein intake as a regular diet... It has me interested in learning more


Well I kind of went into in the OP. Typically, Primal/Paleo is going to be low carb- when compared to the typical American diet. The fact that it's typically lower carb in no way defines the diet though. If you're an athlete then you should be eating more carbs.    

Yes, I'll take probably about 100g to 150g of carbs a day. That will fuel my lifting and two a day CF workouts...I could easily get more than that if I wanted, but why? I don't need any more than that. But yes, as you said the macronutrient ratios can be adjusted for the individual- Paleo/Primal doesn't dictate that- it only dictates the quality of the foods you eat.
NOBODY says paleo/primal is "no carb" if they do then they have no f'n clue what they're saying and you shouldn't listen to them.

As far as dairy and legumes, paleo and primal have slightly differing views on them, hence the confusion. I prefer the Primal outlook, and if you want to learn more you should start perusing www.marksdailyapple.com

How do you fit in twice a day CF workouts, lifting and running into your .mil timescale?

 

We go to the 6am CF class then again either at night, or I go to the base gym (or run) at lunch time...  


Wow. And you got a bunch of kids to right?  

I do, luckily the older ones can babysit

 


That must help a lot!  I only got one and it's tuff sometimes

11/2/2011 7:47:40 AM EDT
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Roland is the hardest working man in Crossfit.
11/2/2011 8:00:42 AM EDT
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I wish! Check out the games athletes or a local comp and watch those guys!

As far add the morning workouts we're home just as the kids are waking up anyways....

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11/2/2011 8:33:04 AM EDT
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Roland is the hardest working man in Crossfit.


I wish! Check out the games athletes or a local comp and watch those guys!

As far add the morning workouts we're home just as the kids are waking up anyways....

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Some of those folks are beasts, for sure. And the ladies...

Did figure out that my local CF gym has a Prowler. Wonder if they'll let me join for $5/month to use it once a week.
11/2/2011 9:17:04 AM EDT
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CF does amazing things to the female body....

Sleds are good fun...that would be awesome.



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11/2/2011 9:40:43 AM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not holding my breath, though.

I'm not opposed to CF at all, just don't have it in my schedule right now to attend the sessions, etc, and that gym isn't 24hrs. If they were 24hrs, open attendance, etc I'd be much more apt to join.

ETA: They have a yoke as well.
11/2/2011 9:49:28 AM EDT
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You guys are making my cookie-cutter, gym-in-a-box, lilac walls and pop music blasting gym look real bad
11/2/2011 10:43:41 AM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not holding my breath, though.



I'm not opposed to CF at all, just don't have it in my schedule right now to attend the sessions, etc, and that gym isn't 24hrs. If they were 24hrs, open attendance, etc I'd be much more apt to join.



ETA: They have a yoke as well.




I have a local comp coming up and they said to be prepared to use a yoke....I'm excited. Sometimes we put a loaded bar down low on a squat rack and push it around our gym...why is that so much fun?





If I ever open a CF gym I think they'll be a significant part of the day slated as open gym...seems smart, I don't know why most CF gyms don't have much/any open gym time.
11/2/2011 11:27:16 AM EDT
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You guys are making my cookie-cutter, gym-in-a-box, lilac walls and pop music blasting gym look real bad


mine is pretty bad, too. The few ous that are doing power lifting type routines stick out like sore thumbs. There are also a few guys that work more like Cross Fitters that are kind of in between, but most of the folks (and the environment) are very "commercial" gym.

And not enough room for sleds, yokes, etc. Makes me sad.

11/2/2011 11:39:05 AM EDT
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My typical day is as follows:






3 cups of black coffee


4 scrambled eggs







Snack is a couple handfuls of smoked almonds and 2 bottles of water.







Lunch is 4 oz. of NY strip, a head of broccoli, and about 10 stalks of asparagus with 2 bottles of water







Snack is usually some carrots (about a cup) or some strawberries







Dinner is 8 oz. of NY strip, cauliflower and/or asparagus with homemade baked sweet potato chips







Not sure what caloric intake is, but with moderate exercise (lift for 40 minutes and 20 minutes of HIT on an exercise bike), I'm down almost 20 pounds in the last 2 months.  I've dropped a pants size and my belly fat is disappearing.  My workouts are very simple...bench press, military press, dips, squats, and dead lifts.  I do 3 sets of 8 and do it every other day...I take about 30 seconds between sets and keep my HR pretty high the whole time.







I have a doctors appointment in about a month and a half and bloodwork scheduled...I'll be interested to see what my cholesterol etc. looks like.







I'll also eat wild caught redfish, speckled trout, pompano, shark, stingray, etc.







CVN

 
11/2/2011 11:48:36 AM EDT
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Nice! Good stuff...

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11/2/2011 12:04:55 PM EDT
[#46]



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My typical day is as follows:



3 cups of black coffee

4 scrambled eggs




Snack is a couple handfuls of smoked almonds and 2 bottles of water.




Lunch is 4 oz. of NY strip, a head of broccoli, and about 10 stalks of asparagus with 2 bottles of water




Snack is usually some carrots (about a cup) or some strawberries




Dinner is 8 oz. of NY strip, cauliflower and/or asparagus with homemade baked sweet potato chips




Not sure what caloric intake is, but with moderate exercise (lift for 40 minutes and 20 minutes of HIT on an exercise bike), I'm down almost 20 pounds in the last 2 months.  I've dropped a pants size and my belly fat is disappearing.  My workouts are very simple...bench press, military press, dips, squats, and dead lifts.  I do 3 sets of 8 and do it every other day...I take about 30 seconds between sets and keep my HR pretty high the whole time.




I have a doctors appointment in about a month and a half and bloodwork scheduled...I'll be interested to see what my cholesterol etc. looks like.




I'll also eat wild caught redfish, speckled trout, pompano, shark, stingray, etc.




CVN
 



I've been working out for a very short time myself but I found about keeping my HR up between sets too. It helps a lot with my performance. Besides higher HR means more calories burned per second. Which is always good.





 
11/2/2011 12:16:31 PM EDT
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Roland is the hardest working man in Crossfit.


I wish! Check out the games athletes or a local comp and watch those guys!

As far add the morning workouts we're home just as the kids are waking up anyways....

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AH- Now I get the paleo diets for you guys.... I didn't know you were into crossfit. You guys like to lift a car engine and run to another state while carrying it Me- I like to lift the entire car and set it back down. Two totally different methods and outcomes

11/2/2011 12:45:28 PM EDT
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Lol, yeah pretty close, but like I said you can still do some serious bulking on Paleo if that's your thing...Paleo is about quality not quantity...remember there's just as much Carbs in sweet potatoes as in rice and we're eating the same meat anyways.

we also have some pretty damn strong guys too, but we'd admittedly get crushed at a power lifting meet...

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11/2/2011 1:33:04 PM EDT
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Lol, yeah pretty close, but like I said you can still do some serious bulking on Paleo if that's your thing...Paleo is about quality not quantity...remember there's just as much Carbs in sweet potatoes as in rice and we're eating the same meat anyways.



we also have some pretty damn strong guys too, but we'd admittedly get crushed at a power lifting meet...



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The one thing I've noticed about paleo is exactly what is bolded.  When I first started, I was not losing any weight...I felt awesome, workouts were great, etc.  I realized that I was eating a LOT of calories...good stuff, fresh, real food...but 3000 calories is STILL 3000 calories.  I bet I'm down to about 1800-2000 calories per day...and I STILL feel awesome...I get a bit hungry every now and then, but not like before with carb induced cravings.

 



I've got about another 40 pounds to get to where I want to be...I was at 310 pounds...built like an offensive lineman...big legs, big chest and arms...and a fat belly.  I'm on my way to looking more like a defensive end...I'm at 290 now, and when I hit 240, I'll be ripped.




CVN
11/2/2011 5:30:04 PM EDT
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How the heck did y'all get the skinless chicken breast on deployment?

When I was at KAF and before I heard about Paleo I was eating "healthy" with lots of pasta and rice.
I was a fat 5'7" 175 lbs and my energy levels sucked.
Since I got home in April, I have lost 24+ lbs eating by cutting out pasta, bread and cokes and eating healthy proteins, fruits and vegetables.

Making sure I get a serving of protein keeps me from feeling hungry.
I am careful not to eat to much fruit or I get hungry between meals. It seems to happen more with high sugar fruits like pineapple as opposed to blueberries or raspberries.
I keep a single serving of pepperoni handy as go to snack in case I need an in between meal snack.
I cheat one day a week with 1/2 of a cardboard pizza and a frozen coke and sometimes I eat beef burrito but the flour tortilla seems to give my stomach trouble.

Mark's Daily Apple has been a great source of information for me.
YMMV.


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