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| I think they are a great idea. We were meant to be barefoot. Very slowly use them, just wear them to warm-up or walk around part of a day for a couple weeks. Then maybe add a quarter-half mile for a few weeks, half-mile after that for a few weeks. Seriously go slow. |
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I had a pair about 2-3 years ago and absolutely loved them. The only issues I had was, that despite their claims, they do start to smell after awhile, even after washing them. Before anyone says anything, I have never been a person very prone to foot odor. Try soaking them in Efferdent...don't ask me how I know. Also, hiking through Moab, Utah seemed to clean them up nicely. I think it was the combination of being wet and getting sand in them just scrubbed them clean. I have the Sprints for running and lifting. I also have a pair of the Komodo Sports for wearing. Mostly due to the above mentioned foot odor. I absolutely love the shoes. I've done everything from running, lifting to hiking 40 miles in the desert with them. The only place I've worn them that I disliked was on an old stream bed with round rocks. You put your arch down on a round rock and you're CNS will light up like a Christmas tree. |
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they are great as long as you dont have a foot that is already messed up. If you are healthy with normal feet then Vibrams are great. Just follow the breakin procedure. They can actually help strengthen the intrinsic muscles in your feet to make you have healthy feet longer. My list of things that would contraindicate vibrams would be
1 Diabetes 2 Flat Feet 3 History of Plantar Fasciitis (not a total contraindication but be careful) 4 Hammertoes or Bunions 5 Bilateral Amputees |
| Just buy the Merrel True Glove so you don't look like a gorilla. I have them (wearing them now), and they are phenomenal for running. As others have said... start slow. I pulled my achilles tendon and could barely walk for about two weeks. haha! It's all better now. |
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We were meant to be barefoot. We were also meant to be naked, but I won't go running that way 
I think that any minimalist shoe is fine as long as you are smart with how you incorporate it into your training. While we may have started out running barefoot and, if you're a Born to Run devotee, maybe hunting prey by running it to death, we weren't doing that on asphalt or concrete. We also probably weren't running 10K all out or running 50 mpw. You can change the period over which stress is applied and you can change the location where stress is applied, but you can't eliminate stress. Start very slowly - maybe doing some strides on a grass field before or after your run and build very slowly from there. The way most folks introduce minimalist footwear into their training regimen is a stimulus program for physical therapists. |
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We were meant to be barefoot. We were also meant to be naked, but I won't go running that way
I think that any minimalist shoe is fine as long as you are smart with how you incorporate it into your training. While we may have started out running barefoot and, if you're a Born to Run devotee, maybe hunting prey by running it to death, we weren't doing that on asphalt or concrete. We also probably weren't running 10K all out or running 50 mpw. You can change the period over which stress is applied and you can change the location where stress is applied, but you can't eliminate stress. Start very slowly - maybe doing some strides on a grass field before or after your run and build very slowly from there. The way most folks introduce minimalist footwear into their training regimin is a stimulus program for physical therapists. Very true. Clothes don't cause near as much of an issue as shoes can. See some Kenyan's about running real far and fast in bare feet. Track spikes are about the least amount of shoe as possible. I do agree about the concrete or asphalt. That is a good point. |
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I've been experimenting with the minimalist shoes for some time now. Once you start with them, wearing "normal" running shoes will make you feel like you're running with concrete slabs on your feet. I've used the 5 fingers and like them, although they wouldn't be my first choice in a minimalist shoe. As others stated be sure to start slow. For the last year or so I've been wearing the Inov-8 F-lite 220 or 195 and IMO they are the best minimalist shoes around. That being said, the New Balance Minimus looks very interesting, and I'd like to give those a shot too. The Inov-8s are nice because they give you the barefoot feel without a large heel but offer a little more protection than the 5 fingers.  http://www.zappos.com/inov-8-f-lite-195 |
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We were meant to be barefoot. We were also meant to be naked, but I won't go running that way
I think that any minimalist shoe is fine as long as you are smart with how you incorporate it into your training. While we may have started out running barefoot and, if you're a Born to Run devotee, maybe hunting prey by running it to death, we weren't doing that on asphalt or concrete. We also probably weren't running 10K all out or running 50 mpw. You can change the period over which stress is applied and you can change the location where stress is applied, but you can't eliminate stress. Start very slowly - maybe doing some strides on a grass field before or after your run and build very slowly from there. The way most folks introduce minimalist footwear into their training regimen is a stimulus program for physical therapists. This post is the winner. Take it to heart. |
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We were meant to be barefoot. We were also meant to be naked, but I won't go running that way
I think that any minimalist shoe is fine as long as you are smart with how you incorporate it into your training. While we may have started out running barefoot and, if you're a Born to Run devotee, maybe hunting prey by running it to death, we weren't doing that on asphalt or concrete. We also probably weren't running 10K all out or running 50 mpw. You can change the period over which stress is applied and you can change the location where stress is applied, but you can't eliminate stress. Start very slowly - maybe doing some strides on a grass field before or after your run and build very slowly from there. The way most folks introduce minimalist footwear into their training regimin is a stimulus program for physical therapists. Very true. Clothes don't cause near as much of an issue as shoes can. See some Kenyan's about running real far and fast in bare feet. Track spikes are about the least amount of shoe as possible. I do agree about the concrete or asphalt. That is a good point. Im not a huge fan of the "this is what we were meant to do" crowd, or the "look at how these tribes do things" argument. Mostly because not everyone in Kenya or a terra humara tribe run. Some cook, some build, some teach, not all are hunters. Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Its just a fact based in genetics. I think the biggest issue for most are they don't tailor their training to themselves. They use some online calculator or a running for dummies book and just end up over doing it. I think a lot of the issues people run into, besides the surface choice, are because their bodies just cant physically handle the amount of miles they wish they could do... that and they transition to quickly. |
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Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. |
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Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower limb. Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... |
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Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower limb. Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... If i have never run seriously before, and am looking to start now with the couch to 5k plan, would it be ok to just use my 5fingers? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower limb. Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... If i have never run seriously before, and am looking to start now with the couch to 5k plan, would it be ok to just use my 5fingers? If you are new to running I would not recommend them. I'd wait until you were at least a moderately experiences runner. |
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Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. While the book is excellent, it's important to remember that it's also anecdote and opinion, not science. While I believe that there is increasing evidence of potential benefits in barefoot/minimalist running and have posted several links on the topic, it's a long way from settled science. |
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Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower limb. Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... If i have never run seriously before, and am looking to start now with the couch to 5k plan, would it be ok to just use my 5fingers? If you are new to running I would not recommend them. I'd wait until you were at least a moderately experiences runner. I would agree. Maybe start getting accustomed to the fit by walking or hiking in them, but I would wait on the long distance training. Strides on the other hand probably wouldnt be a horrible idea, but it depends on what kind of shape youre in... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower limb. Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... If i have never run seriously before, and am looking to start now with the couch to 5k plan, would it be ok to just use my 5fingers? If you are new to running I would not recommend them. I'd wait until you were at least a moderately experiences runner. I would agree. Maybe start getting accustomed to the fit by walking or hiking in them, but I would wait on the long distance training. Strides on the other hand probably wouldnt be a horrible idea, but it depends on what kind of shape youre in... Agreed. |
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I would agree. Maybe start getting accustomed to the fit by walking or hiking in them, but I would wait on the long distance training. Strides on the other hand probably wouldnt be a horrible idea, but it depends on what kind of shape youre in... Strides in a field, not on pavement |
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smith - Is our society not born to run because of genetics or because of environmental influences??? Id say both. If you consider obesity a disease, then you have to factor in genetics at this point. And yes Strides in a field or grass... Some due to genetics, some do to embryological developmental abnormalities in the foot. Some because of environment. But noone was genetically programmed to run 10 miles a day. Its entirely learned behavior. People were meant for short bursts of speed. |
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smith - Is our society not born to run because of genetics or because of environmental influences??? Id say both. If you consider obesity a disease, then you have to factor in genetics at this point. And yes Strides in a field or grass... Some due to genetics, some do to embryological developmental abnormalities in the foot. Some because of environment. But noone was genetically programmed to run 10 miles a day. Its entirely learned behavior. People were meant for short bursts of speed. Well I think environmental influences have had an impact on us for so long, theyve started to effect us genetically. We live in a convenience based society, with horrible choices for food, extremely hard surfaces, where youre placed in shoes when youre pretty much born, and people dont think those things are a crutch? The body may very well be one of the best at adapting, but it can most certainly devolve and detrain over years as well. 40 years in shoes, and youre going to have a helluva time getting into minimalistic shoes on asphalt or concrete without running into some sort of issue. Its pretty much inevitable. Add to that, that a lot of people dont know how to run, cope with pain, or think they can handle more than they actually can which leads to a ton of people complaining about the current shoe trend. People have been running for a long time in shod based shoes. some had issues yes, but a lot didnt. Its not until now that a lot more people are becoming more conscious of their health and theyre trying to run. Because of all the issues listed earlier theyre running into problems when they try to start a training program and theyre looking for something to blame other then themselves, so now all of the sudden its better to be barefoot. Ultimately my point is I dont think its for everyone. Barefoot running or running in general. Mostly because a lot are too far gone, their bodies cant handle the stress required to perform such a task. 
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I've been experimenting with the minimalist shoes for some time now. Once you start with them, wearing "normal" running shoes will make you feel like you're running with concrete slabs on your feet. I've used the 5 fingers and like them, although they wouldn't be my first choice in a minimalist shoe. As others stated be sure to start slow. For the last year or so I've been wearing the Inov-8 F-lite 220 or 195 and IMO they are the best minimalist shoes around. That being said, the New Balance Minimus looks very interesting, and I'd like to give those a shot too. The Inov-8s are nice because they give you the barefoot feel without a large heel but offer a little more protection than the 5 fingers. http://www.theshoemart.com/mas_assets/full/INO/F-Lite_195_Black-White.jpg http://www.zappos.com/inov-8-f-lite-195 im going to check those out too this weekend 
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I do not think obesity is as much as a genetic disease as people claim it to be. Studies have shown that adopted children may or may not turn out like their biological parents and others have shown that just because a certain gene is present doesn't mean it gets expressed. Diabetes, type II, big thought is that a healthy lifestyle may almost eliminate it. Many people can manage it if they are willing to make lifestyle/behavioral changes. It comes to that convenience lifestyle many choose to live. Given our anatomy and muscular function, humans most definitely as a whole are made to run on some level. How far, how fast, that's debatable. It is largely our choice of lifestyle behaviors that have made some to not be so good at it.
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Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower limb. Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... If i have never run seriously before, and am looking to start now with the couch to 5k plan, would it be ok to just use my 5fingers? If you are new to running I would not recommend them. I'd wait until you were at least a moderately experiences runner. I would agree. Maybe start getting accustomed to the fit by walking or hiking in them, but I would wait on the long distance training. Strides on the other hand probably wouldnt be a horrible idea, but it depends on what kind of shape youre in... Agreed. I'm in relatively good shape, I've worn them around town and hiking on several occasions with no ill effects. Couch to 5k is basically starting from scratch so I'm having trouble understanding why it would be a bad idea to start the program with the 5 fingers. 20 minutes 3 times a week starting out sounds like taking it easy to me. Am I off base? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... If i have never run seriously before, and am looking to start now with the couch to 5k plan, would it be ok to just use my 5fingers? If you are new to running I would not recommend them. I'd wait until you were at least a moderately experiences runner. I would agree. Maybe start getting accustomed to the fit by walking or hiking in them, but I would wait on the long distance training. Strides on the other hand probably wouldnt be a horrible idea, but it depends on what kind of shape youre in... Agreed. I'm in relatively good shape, I've worn them around town and hiking on several occasions with no ill effects. Couch to 5k is basically starting from scratch so I'm having trouble understanding why it would be a bad idea to start the program with the 5 fingers. 20 minutes 3 times a week starting out sounds like taking it easy to me. Am I off base? To put it simply- yes, you're off base. Let me give you some background, I'm in pretty good shape I'm a die hard crossfitter, I lift a lot, and run a fair amount of 400m and 800m sprints. I'm also a Marine so the 3 mile run is a standard thing. When I first got mine I ran 4x400, or 4x800m (can't remember which) but basically either 1 or 2 miles. My calves, feet and Achilles tendons were so sore I could literally barely walk. I re-evaluated my plan to introduce the 5 fingers right then. Once I slowed down and took my time it was ok. I was at that point used to running in Nike Frees too, so I thought I'd be able to handle the 5 fingers. I was wrong. My advice would be to wear them for maybe one of your running sessions a week to start, preferably not on concrete.
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I've been experimenting with the minimalist shoes for some time now. Once you start with them, wearing "normal" running shoes will make you feel like you're running with concrete slabs on your feet. I've used the 5 fingers and like them, although they wouldn't be my first choice in a minimalist shoe. As others stated be sure to start slow. For the last year or so I've been wearing the Inov-8 F-lite 220 or 195 and IMO they are the best minimalist shoes around. That being said, the New Balance Minimus looks very interesting, and I'd like to give those a shot too. The Inov-8s are nice because they give you the barefoot feel without a large heel but offer a little more protection than the 5 fingers. http://www.theshoemart.com/mas_assets/full/INO/F-Lite_195_Black-White.jpg http://www.zappos.com/inov-8-f-lite-195 Are these the shoes you started with? From what I read they have the tallest soles so starting with this shoe is recomended the one you are a elite runner the 220 then the 195. I have spend about an hour on the website reading.... road trip this weekend to check them out! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I had a pair about 2-3 years ago and absolutely loved them. The only issues I had was, that despite their claims, they do start to smell after awhile, even after washing them. Before anyone says anything, I have never been a person very prone to foot odor. Try Bactine spray as well - if you're not familiar with it, it is used on cuts and scrapes. It will kill the bacteria that are causing the odor. I put a few sprays in my shoes every once in a while....keeps them fresh. My grandmother taught me that trick. On the Vibrams - they are great shoes, but you definitely need to have a break-in period for your feet. |
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Basically what Im getting at is that not all people were born to run. Funny you should use that phrase. Born to Run This book is excellent! Reading it will cause you to at least reconsider your position. Read it. Didnt you see my reference to tribes in terra humara? Its a one sided, personal experience that in no way covers an entire population. That book is one of the main reason orthos and pedos are seeing an upspike in forefoot running related stress fractures. And just so you know where my perspective is coming from, my background is in biomechanics, I own a running specialty store and Im in the process of getting my grad degree in ex phys specializing in the lower Trust me, in our society today not everyone was born to run.... If i have never run seriously before, and am looking to start now with the couch to 5k plan, would it be ok to just use my 5fingers? If you are new to running I would not recommend them. I'd wait until you were at least a moderately experiences runner. I would agree. Maybe start getting accustomed to the fit by walking or hiking in them, but I would wait on the long distance training. Strides on the other hand probably wouldnt be a horrible idea, but it depends on what kind of shape youre in... Agreed. I'm in relatively good shape, I've worn them around town and hiking on several occasions with no ill effects. Couch to 5k is basically starting from scratch so I'm having trouble understanding why it would be a bad idea to start the program with the 5 fingers. 20 minutes 3 times a week starting out sounds like taking it easy to me. Am I off base? To put it simply- yes, you're off base. Let me give you some background, I'm in pretty good shape I'm a die hard crossfitter, I lift a lot, and run a fair amount of 400m and 800m sprints. I'm also a Marine so the 3 mile run is a standard thing. When I first got mine I ran 4x400, or 4x800m (can't remember which) but basically either 1 or 2 miles. My calves, feet and Achilles tendons were so sore I could literally barely walk. I re-evaluated my plan to introduce the 5 fingers right then. Once I slowed down and took my time it was ok. I was at that point used to running in Nike Frees too, so I thought I'd be able to handle the 5 fingers. I was wrong. My advice would be to wear them for maybe one of your running sessions a week to start, preferably not on concrete. This. |
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I do not think obesity is as much as a genetic disease as people claim it to be. Studies have shown that adopted children may or may not turn out like their biological parents and others have shown that just because a certain gene is present doesn't mean it gets expressed. Diabetes, type II, big thought is that a healthy lifestyle may almost eliminate it. Many people can manage it if they are willing to make lifestyle/behavioral changes. It comes to that convenience lifestyle many choose to live. Given our anatomy and muscular function, humans most definitely as a whole are made to run on some level. How far, how fast, that's debatable. It is largely our choice of lifestyle behaviors that have made some to not be so good at it. Im with you on that one. Because of our mental makeup, we as humans always have a hard time self reflecting and seeing our decisions as the root cause...so creating something to blame instead is always easier. Today's convenience life style has such a negative effect on peoples bodies its just ridiculous. (and I'll go as far as stating that a rifle is one of those conveniences...with it there is no need to be in shape to chase your prey...so ultimately there's been a lot more at play when it comes to convenience than just the last 50 years) And I do believe the human body was meant to run, but I also believe that there is a point of no return when it comes to longitudinal decline from years of being sedentary. Things in your body that arent used will degrade, and generations of this detraining may start to have a profound effect genetically. |
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People were meant for short bursts of speed. Any evidence to support that claim? Yeah, read Melvin Roots Biomechanics of the Lower Extremity or Baxter's The Foot and Ankle in Sport. They explain that the double float phase of running is nonexistent during jogging. The mechanics of long distance running in tennis shoes are completely different and unnatural compared to barefoot running or sprinting in which the ankle is plantarflexed. This plantarflexion (staying on your toes) allows you to absorb much more shock through your lower body. This is why people were built with strong calves. To absorb shock during sprinting. I'll see how many journal articles I can find when you get done with those reads. |
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People were meant for short bursts of speed. Any evidence to support that claim? Yeah, read Melvin Roots Biomechanics of the Lower Extremity or Baxter's The Foot and Ankle in Sport. Couldn't find the former and I don't think I'll be laying out $200 for the latter. If you're willing to loan... |
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People were meant for short bursts of speed. Any evidence to support that claim? Yeah, read Melvin Roots Biomechanics of the Lower Extremity or Baxter's The Foot and Ankle in Sport. Couldn't find the former and I don't think I'll be laying out $200 for the latter. If you're willing to loan... Thats a negative. Root is a little less but it is harder to find. We had a researcher for NIKE come and present to us when we were in school. He kind of said the same thing but beat around the bush a little. I'll see if I can dig up any of the articles I've read |
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People were meant for short bursts of speed. Any evidence to support that claim? Yeah, read Melvin Roots Biomechanics of the Lower Extremity or Baxter's The Foot and Ankle in Sport. Couldn't find the former and I don't think I'll be laying out $200 for the latter. If you're willing to loan... Thats a negative. Root is a little less but it is harder to find. We had a researcher for NIKE come and present to us when we were in school. He kind of said the same thing but beat around the bush a little. I'll see if I can dig up any of the articles I've read Id be interested in reading some of those as well. ETA: Also Id like to get your take from their perspective on the things such as humans having the best cooling system of all the mammals, and the ankle being the only joint used for running in the whole human body that has a mechanical advantage associated with it with some of the smaller muscles in the leg? (i.e. most of your power in sprinting comes from hip flexors and extensors) Also, the gastroc I know can be higher % type 2 fiber, but the soleus is for the most part higher % type 1 fiber, which is more oxydative. |
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I've been experimenting with the minimalist shoes for some time now. Once you start with them, wearing "normal" running shoes will make you feel like you're running with concrete slabs on your feet. I've used the 5 fingers and like them, although they wouldn't be my first choice in a minimalist shoe. As others stated be sure to start slow. For the last year or so I've been wearing the Inov-8 F-lite 220 or 195 and IMO they are the best minimalist shoes around. That being said, the New Balance Minimus looks very interesting, and I'd like to give those a shot too. The Inov-8s are nice because they give you the barefoot feel without a large heel but offer a little more protection than the 5 fingers. http://www.theshoemart.com/mas_assets/full/INO/F-Lite_195_Black-White.jpg http://www.zappos.com/inov-8-f-lite-195 Are these the shoes you started with? From what I read they have the tallest soles so starting with this shoe is recomended the one you are a elite runner the 220 then the 195. I have spend about an hour on the website reading.... road trip this weekend to check them out! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No, I started with the 220s which I like a lot and still use sometimes. I have the 195s now I like them better YMMV, definitely try both. I know a lot of people like the 230s as well. Any of the 3 would be awesome, I do prefer the 195s though- I'm no elite runner but I can bust out a 5k to a 10k in them with absolutely no issues at all. link hopefully that link works. from reading that. the 311 shoe would be the way to start. the store i called only carries the 230 and 195... So i would probably start with the 230. |
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Thats a negative. Root is a little less but it is harder to find. We had a researcher for NIKE come and present to us when we were in school. He kind of said the same thing but beat around the bush a little. I'll see if I can dig up any of the articles I've read Still have the slides from the presentation? |
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Thats a negative. Root is a little less but it is harder to find. We had a researcher for NIKE come and present to us when we were in school. He kind of said the same thing but beat around the bush a little. I'll see if I can dig up any of the articles I've read Still have the slides from the presentation? Doubt it, I'll look. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1748411/pdf/i1062-6050-41-4-387.pdf This is a decent study that shows some differences in shod vs unshod running. In a nutshell is shows that barefoot runners are forefoot strikers and that the ankle is absorbing more shock. If you look up McClay:J Am Podiatr Med Assoc. 2000 Mar;90(3):133-48. (or PM me your email I'll send if to you since it will cost) While they dont say it, they allude to the fact that forefoot strikers have a lower injury rate. But they do show that forefoot strikers have smoother less jarring mechanics. I have seen research that barefoot runners have less inuries. I dont remember the journal though. However when comparing joggers to sprinters you see a forefoot strike in all sprinters and a rearfoot strike in most runners. This would then logically say that sprinting is more natural than jogging. |