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3/28/2017 9:42:51 PM EDT
Hello all,

I'm narrowing down my choices for the scope I want to place on my Tikka T3x CTR (.308). The purpose is to have a good tactical scope I can take to 1,000 yards. Having a milling reticle is a requirement as is first focal plane. Zero stop is also preferred.

My budget is right around $1,600 to $1,700.

Two of the scopes I've come across in that range are the Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 and the Leupold Mark 6 3-18x44 M5B2.

I can have both of these for my price point and there are several websites running good deals on each of them so I'm pausing until I can make the best decision and scrape together that last bit of money.

Both of the scopes are good and have solid reviews. Leupold and Vortex each have wonderful customer service so I think they are about even in those terms.


Like I mentioned above, both are good, the only thing I can tangibly say the Vortex has over the Leupold is illumination and a larger objective lens, however I believe this is offset because the Leupold is nearly one pound lighter, I don't think I'll be doing a lot of low light shooting so I'm not sure if the Vortex having illumination is preferable to having a lighter and more compact package. The weight of the Vortex is not a deal breaker, though.


Another consideration for me, as a beginner, are the reticles. I'm looking at the Vortex reticle, their EBR-2, and to me it just looks...busy for lack of a better word, similar to the Horus reticles. I know all of the subtensions in the EBR-2 have a purpose for holdover and ranging but I'm worried they could be distracting or could obscure the target. The Leupold on the other hand, offers their Mil-Dot and TMR reticles which have less going on but also look like they wouldn't be as distracting. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

If y'all have any other suggestions then I would love to hear them!

Thanks for your replies!
3/29/2017 11:20:34 AM EDT
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Hello all,

I'm narrowing down my choices for the scope I want to place on my Tikka T3x CTR (.308). The purpose is to have a good tactical scope I can take to 1,000 yards. Having a milling reticle is a requirement as is first focal plane. Zero stop is also preferred.

My budget is right around $1,600 to $1,700.

Two of the scopes I've come across in that range are the Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 and the Leupold Mark 6 3-18x44 M5B2.

I can have both of these for my price point and there are several websites running good deals on each of them so I'm pausing until I can make the best decision and scrape together that last bit of money.

Both of the scopes are good and have solid reviews. Leupold and Vortex each have wonderful customer service so I think they are about even in those terms.

Like I mentioned above, both are good, the only thing I can tangibly say the Vortex has over the Leupold is illumination and a larger objective lens, however I believe this is offset because the Leupold is nearly one pound lighter, I don't think I'll be doing a lot of low light shooting so I'm not sure if the Vortex having illumination is preferable to having a lighter and more compact package. The weight of the Vortex is not a deal breaker, though.

Another consideration for me, as a beginner, are the reticles. I'm looking at the Vortex reticle, their EBR-2, and to me it just looks...busy for lack of a better word, similar to the Horus reticles. I know all of the subtensions in the EBR-2 have a purpose for holdover and ranging but I'm worried they could be distracting or could obscure the target. The Leupold on the other hand, offers their Mil-Dot and TMR reticles which have less going on but also look like they wouldn't be as distracting. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

If y'all have any other suggestions then I would love to hear them!

Thanks for your replies!
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The Razor is a very good scope. Great glass and the reticle is not busy. It's a little different than a standard mildot but the more you use it the more you will be happy to have the lower quadrant Christmas tree for holds. It makes holds much more accurate than holding out into open space. It is not close to being as busy as a Horus. Also illumination isn't just for lowlight shooting. I use it when shooting into darker areas at darker targets even in bright daylight conditions.

I have the older Razor with the standard reticle but I have a few Razor II scopes and a PST with the 2C reticle which is similar. Here is a look at 24x through the PST at 400 yard targets to give you an idea what it actually looks like. The more you use it the more you get used to it and like it. I was always a more standard style reticle and the more I used the 2C the more it became my favorite and I wish my Razor 5-20 had the same reticle.  Also as you see the outer portion of the lines have finer breakdown which helps make ranging very accurate.


Also on the warranties, the Vortex VIP covers even accidental damage. Drop it off the bench and it's covered. Gets burned up in a house fire and it's covered. It really is the best warranty around.

Here's my Razor on my .308.


3/29/2017 11:30:17 AM EDT
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I've had both and I would go with the Vortex. I liked the reticle and the weight, but the turrets on the Leupold were garbage (my opinion).