Posted: 8/15/2016 7:52:13 AM EDT
| I am getting a Remington 700 SPS Tactical 16.5". I will eventually suppress it. I have settled on Vortex for my glass. But, I need a little input on which one. I am looking at the HS-T, and the PST. I think I am going to go with the 4-16 magnification, but I'm not sure which one to get. I see that the PST is illuminated, but that is really the only difference I see. Is the illumination worth the extra cost? Also, will 4-16 be good from 100 yards out to 600 or so? |
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I am getting a Remington 700 SPS Tactical 16.5". I will eventually suppress it. I have settled on Vortex for my glass. But, I need a little input on which one. I am looking at the HS-T, and the PST. I think I am going to go with the 4-16 magnification, but I'm not sure which one to get. I see that the PST is illuminated, but that is really the only difference I see. Is the illumination worth the extra cost? Also, will 4-16 be good from 100 yards out to 600 or so? Besides no illumination I think the hs-t only has an open elevation turret It really comes down to what your planning on doing with the setup Are you mostly going to be target shooting at known ranges or using a rangefinder? If so going with a SFP model will save a few bucks. I believe you can get the 6x24 SFP PST for around the same price as a 4x16 FFP PST I know FFP is all the rage but is it something you will actually use? Plus you can still range with SFP at multiples of the lower power Same for illumination, is it something you will actually use? |
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Besides no illumination I think the hs-t only has an open elevation turret It really comes down to what your planning on doing with the setup Are you mostly going to be target shooting at known ranges or using a rangefinder? If so going with a SFP model will save a few bucks. I believe you can get the 6x24 SFP PST for around the same price as a 4x16 FFP PST I know FFP is all the rage but is it something you will actually use? Plus you can still range with SFP at multiples of the lower power Same for illumination, is it something you will actually use? Quoted:
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I am getting a Remington 700 SPS Tactical 16.5". I will eventually suppress it. I have settled on Vortex for my glass. But, I need a little input on which one. I am looking at the HS-T, and the PST. I think I am going to go with the 4-16 magnification, but I'm not sure which one to get. I see that the PST is illuminated, but that is really the only difference I see. Is the illumination worth the extra cost? Also, will 4-16 be good from 100 yards out to 600 or so? Besides no illumination I think the hs-t only has an open elevation turret It really comes down to what your planning on doing with the setup Are you mostly going to be target shooting at known ranges or using a rangefinder? If so going with a SFP model will save a few bucks. I believe you can get the 6x24 SFP PST for around the same price as a 4x16 FFP PST I know FFP is all the rage but is it something you will actually use? Plus you can still range with SFP at multiples of the lower power Same for illumination, is it something you will actually use? I honestly have no clue if I will use any of this. I will use the rifle at the range, but I will also use it for hunting. Basically, I want to get what is the best, but also at the same time, I don't want to spend money on something I won't use. WHat is the difference between FFP, and SFP. I know what they stand for, just not sure what the difference between to 2 are. Also, is the illumination nice to have, or worthless? |
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FFP- reticle changes size when you change the power. This way you can use the mil-dot to range at any magnification.
SFP- the reticle stays the same size throughout the magnification range. Since it doesn't get smaller at lower power, you cannot use the reticle to range at all magnifications. SFP Scopes are usually calibrated to range at max magnification or some are 10x. |
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FFP- reticle changes size when you change the power. This way you can use the mil-dot to range at any magnification. SFP- the reticle stays the same size throughout the magnification range. Since it doesn't get smaller at lower power, you cannot use the reticle to range at all magnifications. SFP Scopes are usually calibrated to range at max magnification or some are 10x. Ok, then I am thinking I want FFP, so that means I will be going with the PST. |
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I would get the Seekins .82 rings and a 20 MOA base. From Seekins over at Snipers Hide: 40mm or less - low rings all the time 50mm obj - low rings on < 5 contour Medium rings > #5 and up (strait barrel get med high) 56mm obj Medium on < 5 contour (sometimes med high) Medium high on sendero contour High on >7 contour |
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It has to do with how big around your barrel is. The contours are how fast it tapers from the full diameter at the breach down to the final diameter at the barrel. I think you will be just fine with the .82 rings and the stock Remington barrel - this might vary slightly based upon how far forward your optic is mounted and how large your flip caps are. The .87 height would give you a little more wiggle room, but I normally prefer to go farther forward with the optic so I can set it down lower. Here is some information from Krieger on different contours they offer. https://kriegerbarrels.com/contours#bolt http://www.ershawbarrels.com/scb-contours-and-weights.php |
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.92 rings Rob recommends. Just realized these are .97, Vortex doesn't offer the .92. http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-precision-matched-rings-30mm-riflescope-97 They do offer .87. http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-precision-matched-rings-30mm-riflescope-87 I believe Seekins cuts these for Vortex. Here are the .92 Seekins: |
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.92 rings Rob recommends. http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-precision-matched-rings-30mm-riflescope-97 I believe Seekins cuts these for Vortex. I am guessing you mean .97 rings, because I don't see .92? |
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I'm using a PST 4-16x50, and there's plenty of room with the .87" rings, wish I had went with the .82, but height isn't terrible. Rail is a Leupold Mark 4. Do you think there would still be room for caps with .82" rings? Easily. I just ordered the wrong ones. |
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Quoted: Why just Vortex? Selecting the best scope for your needs often requires choosing specific specs that leads to getting different brands of scopes. I have more than two dozen optics (probably closer to 30) from at least 10 different companies. |
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He gets the .mil discount. It usually makes them significantly cheaper than comparable optics. I've heard some of the other big names have .mil discounts available, but I don't think most of them are as significant. Quoted:
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Why just Vortex? Selecting the best scope for your needs often requires choosing specific specs that leads to getting different brands of scopes. I have more than two dozen optics (probably closer to 30) from at least 10 different companies. This is why |
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Why just Vortex? Selecting the best scope for your needs often requires choosing specific specs that leads to getting different brands of scopes. I have more than two dozen optics (probably closer to 30) from at least 10 different companies. This is why Got it. Makes sense. Thanks. If the optical quality is the same, illumination is useful in low light hunting when game is most active. Reticle choice is different though. You need it to be thicker and more conspicuous except in the very center. None of my hunting scopes go higher than 12x because of field of view and weight. 14x is plenty. If you shoot at long range you may want more power, but those scopes may be a burden when hunting and may be too powerful on the low end to use up close or on running game. On a bolt gun use the lowest rings that will keep the objective off the barrel. I've never needed anything higher than medium for scopes up to 50mm objective. Just a few general observations. |