Posted: 2/22/2015 7:50:13 PM EDT
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I am going to be buying a Nightforce. It will be on a LMT MWS. I have a few questions.
LMT has full rail. Do I chose standard rings or one piece? Is there a benefit to one vs other? I have chosen NXS 5.5- 22. Do I get the 50 or 56? Night force offers Mil and MOA. What is the difference? |
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I am going to be buying a Nightforce. It will be on a LMT MWS. I have a few questions. LMT has full rail. Do I chose standard rings or one piece? Is there a benefit to one vs other? I have chosen NXS 5.5- 22. Do I get the 50 or 56? Night force offers Mil and MOA. What is the difference? I just asked a similar question, although it was in regards to the strength of rings vs a Leupold mount specifically. From what I've seen, so far, the benefits of a cantilever are in the simplicity, the rings are machined together, so they're already in a perfect alignment, and most are a "return to zero" product, which means you can remove the optic, reattach it in the same place, and be close to your original zero. As for MIL vs MOA, there's this http://precisionrifleblog.com/2013/07/20/mil-vs-moa-an-objective-comparison/ And a thread in the other subforum |
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. May I ask why you are choosing MOA over MIL? One thing in the link I don't agree with is: "If you think in yards/inches the math for range estimation is easier with MOA. If you think in meters/cm the math is easier with MIL." |
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One thing in the link I don't agree with is: "If you think in yards/inches the math for range estimation is easier with MOA. If you think in meters/cm the math is easier with MIL." Yeah that's BS and if someone writes that then I would consider other things suspect. I didn't read the article but that is just not true. |
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May I ask why you are choosing MOA over MIL? One thing in the link I don't agree with is: "If you think in yards/inches the math for range estimation is easier with MOA. If you think in meters/cm the math is easier with MIL." Quoted:
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. May I ask why you are choosing MOA over MIL? One thing in the link I don't agree with is: "If you think in yards/inches the math for range estimation is easier with MOA. If you think in meters/cm the math is easier with MIL." Sorry if you think I posted bad info. I realize people don't want to often impart trade secrets online that they're otherwise paid to do in real life, but with Sniper's Hide getting nuked, when I was looking for a scope, my Google Fu didn't turn up anything really helpful, or anything that I recognized as helpful. There didn't seem to be any "starting from zero" guide for people who want to start shooting long range, and nothing that explains it better than what I could find on the rifle blog. I know there's a user putting together something now in the basics subforum, but that wasn't there a few months ago when I was looking. |
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Sorry if you think I posted bad info. I realize people don't want to often impart trade secrets online that they're otherwise paid to do in real life, but with Sniper's Hide getting nuked, when I was looking for a scope, my Google Fu didn't turn up anything really helpful, or anything that I recognized as helpful. There didn't seem to be any "starting from zero" guide for people who want to start shooting long range, and nothing that explains it better than what I could find on the rifle blog. I know there's a user putting together something now in the basics subforum, but that wasn't there a few months ago when I was looking. Quoted:
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. May I ask why you are choosing MOA over MIL? One thing in the link I don't agree with is: "If you think in yards/inches the math for range estimation is easier with MOA. If you think in meters/cm the math is easier with MIL." Sorry if you think I posted bad info. I realize people don't want to often impart trade secrets online that they're otherwise paid to do in real life, but with Sniper's Hide getting nuked, when I was looking for a scope, my Google Fu didn't turn up anything really helpful, or anything that I recognized as helpful. There didn't seem to be any "starting from zero" guide for people who want to start shooting long range, and nothing that explains it better than what I could find on the rifle blog. I know there's a user putting together something now in the basics subforum, but that wasn't there a few months ago when I was looking. When I stated I didn't agree with that piece of information it was not taking a shot at you in any way. That link does have some good information it, that piece I quoted is wrong. Which is also why I asked the OP why he is choosing MOA over MIL. Just want to make sure he has the info he needs before making the decision to get one or the other. If I was just starting out and saw that quote I would of chose MOA but I am glad I use MIL. |
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When I stated I didn't agree with that piece of information it was not taking a shot at you in any way. That link does have some good information it, that piece I quoted is wrong. Which is also why I asked the OP why he is choosing MOA over MIL. Just want to make sure he has the info he needs before making the decision to get one or the other. If I was just starting out and saw that quote I would of chose MOA but I am glad I use MIL. Quoted:
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. May I ask why you are choosing MOA over MIL? One thing in the link I don't agree with is: "If you think in yards/inches the math for range estimation is easier with MOA. If you think in meters/cm the math is easier with MIL." Sorry if you think I posted bad info. I realize people don't want to often impart trade secrets online that they're otherwise paid to do in real life, but with Sniper's Hide getting nuked, when I was looking for a scope, my Google Fu didn't turn up anything really helpful, or anything that I recognized as helpful. There didn't seem to be any "starting from zero" guide for people who want to start shooting long range, and nothing that explains it better than what I could find on the rifle blog. I know there's a user putting together something now in the basics subforum, but that wasn't there a few months ago when I was looking. When I stated I didn't agree with that piece of information it was not taking a shot at you in any way. That link does have some good information it, that piece I quoted is wrong. Which is also why I asked the OP why he is choosing MOA over MIL. Just want to make sure he has the info he needs before making the decision to get one or the other. If I was just starting out and saw that quote I would of chose MOA but I am glad I use MIL. I knew you weren't taking a shot, I was explaining my post from the point of view of someone who hasn't been there, nor done that. 
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I have a MWS with a NF 5.5-22 with MOAR reticle. Great scope. Pic in the .308 thread of you want to see what it looks like. Quoted:
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. I have a MWS with a NF 5.5-22 with MOAR reticle. Great scope. Pic in the .308 thread of you want to see what it looks like. How heavy is this set up? I just took a USO off of my MWS, it was a real heavy set up... I am looking for another scope for the rifle, but want to go with something lighter. 77 |
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How heavy is this set up? I just took a USO off of my MWS, it was a real heavy set up... I am looking for another scope for the rifle, but want to go with something lighter. 77 Quoted:
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. I have a MWS with a NF 5.5-22 with MOAR reticle. Great scope. Pic in the .308 thread of you want to see what it looks like. How heavy is this set up? I just took a USO off of my MWS, it was a real heavy set up... I am looking for another scope for the rifle, but want to go with something lighter. 77 Heavy. I weighed it a while back and it was roughly 14.5-15 pounds. Can't honestly remember if I had it loaded with a mag or not. I think not. The MWS is 9.8 pounds and the scope is 2 pounds alone. Heck, the MAMS was not light come to think of it. I want to send the barrel off to ADCO, but it's just so damn accurate I hate to risk losing any accuracy. For me it's a long range shooter, not necessarily a gun I want to hump around the woods. I'd probably get a PredaTar for that. Having said that, I absolutely love my setup. The only thing I want to add is an offset RMR or H1. But I won't lie, I do wish it were lighter (although my choices of accessories don't show that!) |
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How heavy is this set up? I just took a USO off of my MWS, it was a real heavy set up... I am looking for another scope for the rifle, but want to go with something lighter. 77 Quoted:
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. I have a MWS with a NF 5.5-22 with MOAR reticle. Great scope. Pic in the .308 thread of you want to see what it looks like. How heavy is this set up? I just took a USO off of my MWS, it was a real heavy set up... I am looking for another scope for the rifle, but want to go with something lighter. 77 Not sure what magnification range you want but the Nightforce 2.5-10 is 19oz, significantly lighter than the heavier Nightforce scopes. I also have an NXS 2.5-10x32 and it's my favorite optic by far. The only thing I would trade it for is a 2.5-10x24. |
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How heavy is this set up? I just took a USO off of my MWS, it was a real heavy set up... I am looking for another scope for the rifle, but want to go with something lighter. 77 Quoted:
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MOA it is! That link was perfect. I have a MWS with a NF 5.5-22 with MOAR reticle. Great scope. Pic in the .308 thread of you want to see what it looks like. How heavy is this set up? I just took a USO off of my MWS, it was a real heavy set up... I am looking for another scope for the rifle, but want to go with something lighter. 77 Vortex Viper PST FFP 2.5-10x32 Scope in a Leupold Mk4 IMS on my Sig 716 3Gun (18" heavy barrel) is 12 lbs empty, no bipod. |