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11/22/2014 5:29:28 PM EDT
Hi all, finally decided to get serious and get a 'precision' rifle. Does anyone here have one of these, if so any tips tricks to share to squeeze the most out of this rifle?

I already plan on sending it to Short Action Customs to get it threaded for suppressor use. (AAC Cyclone). Did also consider getting the base and rings bedded while it's there. Anything else I should consider?

11/22/2014 5:34:25 PM EDT
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Mine shoots 1/4 moa with fed gmm 175gr right out of the box. Post pics of thread job when you get it.
11/22/2014 6:01:58 PM EDT
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Will do. That's nice to hear since I'm not currently setup to reload. Thanks!
11/22/2014 11:20:50 PM EDT
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I'd like to try one, as they've been on my mind lately. Something different than my 700 AAC in an AICS.
11/23/2014 1:30:50 PM EDT
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The A3G is a great Out of the Box rifle.  Great bang for the buck.  I sent mine out to Gruning Precision to add a Badger NV mount and CDI bottom metal that accepts AI magazines.  I am VERY happy.
11/23/2014 3:48:10 PM EDT
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Could you post a pic?
11/23/2014 9:45:26 PM EDT
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The A3G is a great Out of the Box rifle.  Great bang for the buck.  I sent mine out to Gruning Precision to add a Badger NV mount and CDI bottom metal that accepts AI magazines.  I am VERY happy.


Could you post a pic?


Interested in seeing that as well. Thought it was weird for this model not to have a box magazine when all of their others have them. Is there an advantage either way?
11/24/2014 5:35:37 PM EDT
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I have owned two of them.  

The first one never came close to the accuracy guarantee.  I sent it back to FN for factory work 3x before they admitted that I got one with a bad barrel.  Apparently, they had a group of bad barrels, and as luck would have it, I got one.

So, I waited, and waited, and waited for a replacement rifle.  After nearly a full year went by, FN got a replacement for me.  Granted, this was when they were moving their factory, but still.....   In any case, they also sent me a Leupold Mk4 scope to say sorry for the wait.  So I was happy.

At least I was happy until the second rifle wouldn't feed rounds from the left side of the magazine.  The rounds would get jammed into the base of the barrel, rather than being directed into the breech.  So, again, I sent the rifle back to FN three times, for repairs that didn't work, and FN even tried to get a noted national builder of precision rifles to try and fix it...all to no avail.   This time, after 10 months of waiting for a replacement, I told FN that I thought it was time to end our relationship.  FN was really nice about it, and gave me an equal amount of any other FN products of my choosing to replace the second defective rifle.  

I promptly sold them off as I no longer had faith in FN's dealing with civilians.  I think they are all about military contracts, and simply don't care about small timers like myself.

I think the SPR A3G is one of the neatest rifle designs going.   I love the controlled round feed, and many other features of the rifle, but I wouldn't trust one to work..   I would be more likely to buy a used one that I could test fire first.  

But for that amount of money, I had a full custom rifle built.  Here is what i ended up with:

Manners stock
Defiance Machine action
Obermeyer barrel in 6.5mm with a 1-8.5 twist
Badger arms bottom metal
Accuracy International magazines
Rifle basix trigger.
Cerakote finish

This rifle regularly prints sub half MOA groups, and I suspect that someone who was a better bench shooter than I am could easily get .25 moa groups out of it.  

YMMV
11/24/2014 7:11:48 PM EDT
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I have owned two of them.  

The first one never came close to the accuracy guarantee.  I sent it back to FN for factory work 3x before they admitted that I got one with a bad barrel.  Apparently, they had a group of bad barrels, and as luck would have it, I got one.

So, I waited, and waited, and waited for a replacement rifle.  After nearly a full year went by, FN got a replacement for me.  Granted, this was when they were moving their factory, but still.....   In any case, they also sent me a Leupold Mk4 scope to say sorry for the wait.  So I was happy.

At least I was happy until the second rifle wouldn't feed rounds from the left side of the magazine.  The rounds would get jammed into the base of the barrel, rather than being directed into the breech.  So, again, I sent the rifle back to FN three times, for repairs that didn't work, and FN even tried to get a noted national builder of precision rifles to try and fix it...all to no avail.   This time, after 10 months of waiting for a replacement, I told FN that I thought it was time to end our relationship.  FN was really nice about it, and gave me an equal amount of any other FN products of my choosing to replace the second defective rifle.  

I promptly sold them off as I no longer had faith in FN's dealing with civilians.  I think they are all about military contracts, and simply don't care about small timers like myself.

I think the SPR A3G is one of the neatest rifle designs going.   I love the controlled round feed, and many other features of the rifle, but I wouldn't trust one to work..   I would be more likely to buy a used one that I could test fire first.  

But for that amount of money, I had a full custom rifle built.  Here is what i ended up with:

Manners stock
Defiance Machine action
Obermeyer barrel in 6.5mm with a 1-8.5 twist
Badger arms bottom metal
Accuracy International magazines
Rifle basix trigger.
Cerakote finish

This rifle regularly prints sub half MOA groups, and I suspect that someone who was a better bench shooter than I am could easily get .25 moa groups out of it.  

YMMV
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Interesting, that's the first bad review I've ever read about the a3g. Was this during the time they were experiencing problems with a certain batch of rifles?
11/28/2014 10:27:26 AM EDT
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I have an early A3G from back when they were giving a 5.7 pistol with every purchase. I told them to keep the pistol...

other than mounting up a S-B 4X16 LP on it, I have not done any work. I want to hear about you guys who have changed the bottom metal to accept magazines  and put on a larger bolt knob.
11/29/2014 2:37:14 AM EDT
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The A3G is a great Out of the Box rifle.  Great bang for the buck.  I sent mine out to Gruning Precision to add a Badger NV mount and CDI bottom metal that accepts AI magazines.  I am VERY happy.




Could you post a pic?




Interested in seeing that as well. Thought it was weird for this model not to have a box magazine when all of their others have them. Is there an advantage either way?




 
I'm borderline retarded when it comes to posting pics but I will give it a go tomorrow.  
11/29/2014 1:12:03 PM EDT
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The A3G is a great Out of the Box rifle.  Great bang for the buck.  I sent mine out to Gruning Precision to add a Badger NV mount and CDI bottom metal that accepts AI magazines.  I am VERY happy.


Could you post a pic?


Interested in seeing that as well. Thought it was weird for this model not to have a box magazine when all of their others have them. Is there an advantage either way?

  I'm borderline retarded when it comes to posting pics but I will give it a go tomorrow.  


lulz ok thanks bud, get a photo bucket account it helps
12/5/2014 5:12:28 PM EDT
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The first one I owned was apparently when they had a few bad barrels..the problem was that they didn't want to admit it, and for months blamed me, the ammo, scope, mounting system and anything else they could think of.  Eventually they admitted to bad barrels.

The second rifle was when they were between factories.  However, as a consumer, I shouldn't have to investigate a companies personnel, union issues, factory logistics,  stock on hand prior to making a purchase.

FN's customer service guy was great to deal with, and I understood that if there wasn't a rifle in inventory anywhere, that he couldn't just magically make one show up.  So I was never rude to him as I understood his frustration as well as he understood mine.  In the end, the separation was amicable as FN did what they could to make me happy.  I just ended up feeling that civilian customers simply weren't as important as large military/police purchasers.
12/6/2014 3:23:50 PM EDT
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I had an A1a that was crazy accurate.  I stupidly sold it for an A2 with McMillan A4 stock as I decided I wanted the longer barrel and adjustable stock.  On its best days that was a 1moa gun and that was after pillar and epoxy bedding by Short Action Customs. After 2 years of trying different loads I gave up and sold it.  I bought a Sako TRG 22 to replace it.  By far the nicest and most accurate gun I have ever owned.
12/8/2014 2:41:22 PM EDT
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Funny you should mention the TRG22.  I also found the TRG22 to be without any problems for many years.  It never gave me a lick of trouble, always worked, and was really easy to shoot.  When I would take the SPR A3G and the TRG22 to the range and let other people shoot them, the consensus was that they were both equally accurate (at least the A3G with the good barrel), but that the TRG22 was just easy to shoot accurately. People felt they didn't have to work as hard to get the TRG to print small groups as they did the A3G.  

Of the two, if I had to do it over, I would get a TRG22.  However, I really like many of the features on the A3G, and if I could test one first, and find one that worked like they are supposed to, I would probably buy another A3G.
12/16/2014 12:22:45 AM EDT
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My A2/A4 easily gets 1/3 moa with 168fgmm. Around 3/4moa with 175 (go figure).  Surprised to hear the bad reviews although there seem to be way more positive opinions than negative if you do the research.
12/16/2014 1:01:41 AM EDT
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Funny you should mention the TRG22.  I also found the TRG22 to be without any problems for many years.  It never gave me a lick of trouble, always worked, and was really easy to shoot.  When I would take the SPR A3G and the TRG22 to the range and let other people shoot them, the consensus was that they were both equally accurate (at least the A3G with the good barrel), but that the TRG22 was just easy to shoot accurately. People felt they didn't have to work as hard to get the TRG to print small groups as they did the A3G.  

Of the two, if I had to do it over, I would get a TRG22.  However, I really like many of the features on the A3G, and if I could test one first, and find one that worked like they are supposed to, I would probably buy another A3G.
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I love my TRG-22 and agree that it's a very easy rifle to shoot accurately. Only con to the system I've found is that the magazines are prone to failure to feed in dusty conditions.  I've shot mine extensively in the desert over the past few years and if you don't keep them clean the leaf spring inside the mag will not have enough force to overcome the additional friction, causing the rounds to fail to seat at the top against the feed lips. It's a non-issue unless you're dragging your rifle around in nasty desert conditions, and I'll admit I only clean the mags once a year or so when they start feeding "sluggish", but it is something to note.

OP...enjoy that A3G. I got to shoot one a few years ago and it was every bit as accurate as my TRG.

12/16/2014 9:32:35 PM EDT
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I love my TRG-22 and agree that it's a very easy rifle to shoot accurately. Only con to the system I've found is that the magazines are prone to failure to feed in dusty conditions.  I've shot mine extensively in the desert over the past few years and if you don't keep them clean the leaf spring inside the mag will not have enough force to overcome the additional friction, causing the rounds to fail to seat at the top against the feed lips. It's a non-issue unless you're dragging your rifle around in nasty desert conditions, and I'll admit I only clean the mags once a year or so when they start feeding "sluggish", but it is something to note.

OP...enjoy that A3G. I got to shoot one a few years ago and it was every bit as accurate as my TRG.

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Funny you should mention the TRG22.  I also found the TRG22 to be without any problems for many years.  It never gave me a lick of trouble, always worked, and was really easy to shoot.  When I would take the SPR A3G and the TRG22 to the range and let other people shoot them, the consensus was that they were both equally accurate (at least the A3G with the good barrel), but that the TRG22 was just easy to shoot accurately. People felt they didn't have to work as hard to get the TRG to print small groups as they did the A3G.  

Of the two, if I had to do it over, I would get a TRG22.  However, I really like many of the features on the A3G, and if I could test one first, and find one that worked like they are supposed to, I would probably buy another A3G.


I love my TRG-22 and agree that it's a very easy rifle to shoot accurately. Only con to the system I've found is that the magazines are prone to failure to feed in dusty conditions.  I've shot mine extensively in the desert over the past few years and if you don't keep them clean the leaf spring inside the mag will not have enough force to overcome the additional friction, causing the rounds to fail to seat at the top against the feed lips. It's a non-issue unless you're dragging your rifle around in nasty desert conditions, and I'll admit I only clean the mags once a year or so when they start feeding "sluggish", but it is something to note.

OP...enjoy that A3G. I got to shoot one a few years ago and it was every bit as accurate as my TRG.



Thanks! Should have it back any day now..... Waiting patiently.
12/17/2014 3:51:43 AM EDT
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I love mine.










12/19/2014 12:53:18 AM EDT
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That 'yote in the middle left was sure keeping an eye out for ya!,



Doc
12/21/2014 5:53:07 PM EDT
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literally my only complaint about my A3G is the pile of junk cheek rest on the macmillan A3 stock. fuck that thing. after dealing with the set screws stripping out and not seating right because they are set into the aluminum i took the whole thing off and replaced it with a TNVC mod 0 cheek rest i had sitting around from my old M1A when i had a scope on it.







12/23/2014 12:59:15 AM EDT
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As requested pics of the thread job by Mark Gordon of Short Action Customs. If it wasn't knurled I'm not sure you could tell it was actually threaded. Amazing job. Hope to put it through its paces soon.