Posted: 11/10/2015 11:37:46 PM EDT
| I need to buy a dozen AI type magazines. Up to now I have been using factory AI mags but there are quite a few new offerings it seems....Any of them worth considering? |
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The only other magazines I *might* consider would be Accurate Mag "AI" magazines as they have the best track record besides authentic AI magazines.
I just can't say that I feel the savings is worth it though over authentic AI magazines for the peace of mind that the real ones bring. Mile High Shooting has a good price on factory AI magazines and free shipping (I believe) still going on thru their website. |
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DSG has the 5 rounder Magpul AICS mags in stock for $28.22. Ordered a few.
https://dsgarms.com/mag549 |
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How do you define best? I use mdt polymer mags... Definitely the best price and they are 100% reliable. That's a good question. They have to function 100%, all the time, every time. Other than that, I don't care what they look like or whose name is on them. |
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That's a good question. They have to function 100%, all the time, every time. Other than that, I don't care what they look like or whose name is on them. Quoted:
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How do you define best? I use mdt polymer mags... Definitely the best price and they are 100% reliable. That's a good question. They have to function 100%, all the time, every time. Other than that, I don't care what they look like or whose name is on them. That right there means that you should go with factory AI magazines to me. Buying them hurts the wallet but I have no concerns about whether the 10 I own will work or not. |
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That right there means that you should go with factory AI magazines to me. Buying them hurts the wallet but I have no concerns about whether the 10 I own will work or not. Quoted:
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How do you define best? I use mdt polymer mags... Definitely the best price and they are 100% reliable. That's a good question. They have to function 100%, all the time, every time. Other than that, I don't care what they look like or whose name is on them. That right there means that you should go with factory AI magazines to me. Buying them hurts the wallet but I have no concerns about whether the 10 I own will work or not. Your statement seems like a baseless assertion do you have any factual basis for suggesting that all other magazines are unreliable? Magpul is getting into the aics magazine game... Who do you think knows more about reliable magazines AI or Magpul? I'm betting Magpul has made a shit load more reliable magazines than AI |
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AI has been making their magazines for longer than Magpul has existed. Maybe they'll be different, but so far, every mag that's not an AI has had problems. Until an honest, third party conducts some testing/data analysis your statement is mere conjecture based on your opinion and anecdotal experience(s). Perhaps that's the next topic that precisionrifleblog should tackle. But I'm sure AI has some super secret technological know-how that makes their magazines far superior to anything else on the market. It's not as if a magazine is a box with feedlips, a spring, and a baseplate...it's a complicated piece of hardware like a Tracking Point rifle or fighter jet. 
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Until an honest, third party conducts some testing/data analysis your statement is mere conjecture based on your opinion and anecdotal experience(s). Perhaps that's the next topic that precisionrifleblog should tackle. But I'm sure AI has some super secret technological know-how that makes their magazines far superior to anything else on the market. It's not as if a magazine is a box with feedlips, a spring, and a baseplate...it's a complicated piece of hardware like a Tracking Point rifle or fighter jet.
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AI has been making their magazines for longer than Magpul has existed. Maybe they'll be different, but so far, every mag that's not an AI has had problems. Until an honest, third party conducts some testing/data analysis your statement is mere conjecture based on your opinion and anecdotal experience(s). Perhaps that's the next topic that precisionrifleblog should tackle. But I'm sure AI has some super secret technological know-how that makes their magazines far superior to anything else on the market. It's not as if a magazine is a box with feedlips, a spring, and a baseplate...it's a complicated piece of hardware like a Tracking Point rifle or fighter jet.
I am a third party, and I am objective. All I care about is building guns that work for my customers, and if one mag works better than others, that's what I use. |
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I agree with Zia. I have tried others like the Accurate mags and Alpha mags. Multiples of both. Would never use the Alphas as they swell when loaded and don't feed well. The Accurate mags are better as they are built more like AI mags but all I use are the AI mags. Yes they cost a little more but I am using mags that I got in 2005 with my first Badger DBM install and they are still going strong after many years of matches.
The new Magpul mags are looking interesting but I haven't got a chance to try them yet. |
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Until an honest, third party conducts some testing/data analysis your statement is mere conjecture based on your opinion and anecdotal experience(s). Perhaps that's the next topic that precisionrifleblog should tackle. But I'm sure AI has some super secret technological know-how that makes their magazines far superior to anything else on the market. It's not as if a magazine is a box with feedlips, a spring, and a baseplate...it's a complicated piece of hardware like a Tracking Point rifle or fighter jet.
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AI has been making their magazines for longer than Magpul has existed. Maybe they'll be different, but so far, every mag that's not an AI has had problems. Until an honest, third party conducts some testing/data analysis your statement is mere conjecture based on your opinion and anecdotal experience(s). Perhaps that's the next topic that precisionrifleblog should tackle. But I'm sure AI has some super secret technological know-how that makes their magazines far superior to anything else on the market. It's not as if a magazine is a box with feedlips, a spring, and a baseplate...it's a complicated piece of hardware like a Tracking Point rifle or fighter jet.
Just like the original Colt 20rd AR magazines are known for being utterly reliable so are AI magazines. The OP said he wants 100% reliabilty and AI's track record is long and proven at producing reliable magazines for the guns/chassis that they designed. Magpul has no history producing precision rifle magazines so to assume that their magazines will be better than OEM magazines out of the gate is optimistic until their track record is established. ETA: If producing firearm magazines was so simple there wouldn't be so many rifle/handgun magazines out there that are complete garbage ala USA Magazines. |
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Just like the original Colt 20rd AR magazines are known for being utterly reliable so are AI magazines. The OP said he wants 100% reliabilty and AI's track record is long and proven at producing reliable magazines for the guns/chassis that they designed. Magpul has no history producing precision rifle magazines so to assume that their magazines will be better than OEM magazines out of the gate is optimistic until their track record is established. ETA: If producing firearm magazines was so simple there wouldn't be so many rifle/handgun magazines out there that are complete garbage ala USA Magazines. Quoted:
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AI has been making their magazines for longer than Magpul has existed. Maybe they'll be different, but so far, every mag that's not an AI has had problems. Until an honest, third party conducts some testing/data analysis your statement is mere conjecture based on your opinion and anecdotal experience(s). Perhaps that's the next topic that precisionrifleblog should tackle. But I'm sure AI has some super secret technological know-how that makes their magazines far superior to anything else on the market. It's not as if a magazine is a box with feedlips, a spring, and a baseplate...it's a complicated piece of hardware like a Tracking Point rifle or fighter jet.
Just like the original Colt 20rd AR magazines are known for being utterly reliable so are AI magazines. The OP said he wants 100% reliabilty and AI's track record is long and proven at producing reliable magazines for the guns/chassis that they designed. Magpul has no history producing precision rifle magazines so to assume that their magazines will be better than OEM magazines out of the gate is optimistic until their track record is established. ETA: If producing firearm magazines was so simple there wouldn't be so many rifle/handgun magazines out there that are complete garbage ala USA Magazines. Not only does Magpul have no history of producing precision rifle magazines, they do have a history of creating unreliable magazines, at least for a period of time. Gen 2 PMAGs sucked for me. Magpul admitted the design flaws with them. Then Magpul announced their Glock mags, and I said no thanks based on my previous experience. And of course, their Glock mags sucked and Magpul admitted the design flaws with them. Magpul has great customer service, but if you want the most reliable magazine, you may not want to do their beta testing for them. Who knows, maybe their learn from past mistakes and make their AI pattern mags absolutely amazing. |
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Not only does Magpul have no history of producing precision rifle magazines, they do have a history of creating unreliable magazines, at least for a period of time. Gen 2 PMAGs sucked for me. Magpul admitted the design flaws with them. Then Magpul announced their Glock mags, and I said no thanks based on my previous experience. And of course, their Glock mags sucked and Magpul admitted the design flaws with them. Magpul has great customer service, but if you want the most reliable magazine, you may not want to do their beta testing for them. Who knows, maybe their learn from past mistakes and make their AI pattern mags absolutely amazing. Quoted:
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Just like the original Colt 20rd AR magazines are known for being utterly reliable so are AI magazines. The OP said he wants 100% reliabilty and AI's track record is long and proven at producing reliable magazines for the guns/chassis that they designed. Magpul has no history producing precision rifle magazines so to assume that their magazines will be better than OEM magazines out of the gate is optimistic until their track record is established. ETA: If producing firearm magazines was so simple there wouldn't be so many rifle/handgun magazines out there that are complete garbage ala USA Magazines. Not only does Magpul have no history of producing precision rifle magazines, they do have a history of creating unreliable magazines, at least for a period of time. Gen 2 PMAGs sucked for me. Magpul admitted the design flaws with them. Then Magpul announced their Glock mags, and I said no thanks based on my previous experience. And of course, their Glock mags sucked and Magpul admitted the design flaws with them. Magpul has great customer service, but if you want the most reliable magazine, you may not want to do their beta testing for them. Who knows, maybe their learn from past mistakes and make their AI pattern mags absolutely amazing. I was going to mention the issues with PMAG's that I have had as well (I own 75 or so of them) but figured that would get this thread derailed. I will just say that I wouldn't personally trust their AI type magazines in anything but their R700 stock. Even then I'd rather just buy OEM AI magazines or Accurate Mag (if price was an issue). Honestly, $65/5rd OEM magazine isn't that horrible when you consider that people are paying $50+ for the polymer Lancer MPX magazines and the AI mags will last forever. |