Posted: 3/29/2015 10:41:20 AM EDT
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Savage 10 FLCP-SR Good scope and rings are on hand. I'm left handed, looking to get one of these as the price is right now that it comes with an Accustock. It also allegedly comes with picatinney rail. MSRP $761 I had bought a similar right hand model (10 FCP-XP) that was exclusive to Dick's Sporting Goods but sans the oversized bolt handle, threaded muzzle, and Accustock. It came with cheap rings and cheap scope but I'd rather have those other features than this. Not a bad package for around $600 but after I got it, I realized not all Savage 10 actions are the same, unlike my Remington 700. I couldn't find an off the shelf stock to replace the factory tupperware as the screw spacing was different than most Savages. Short of a custom stock job and realizing I couldn't squeeze any more accuracy out of it, I ended up selling it. I'm curious what magazines the newer model use. The older one had a proprietary 4 round magazine, and there was an aftermarket conversion that would give you 10 using the same magazine. Obligatory photo of the one I sold:  |
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I like Savage since you can DIY and get a very good shooting rifle. Can upgrade as funds become available with minimum tools.
Savage for whatever reason does like to change their rifles, which is a huge PITA when you do want to upgrade stocks. For Savage short action you are looking at 4.27" or 4.4 spacing. The 4.27" spacing are on the older rifles. All you have to do is measure the front screw and the screw in front of the trigger guard to get which spacing size your rifle is/was. I believe the new Savages are using AI/AI clone mags in their DBM systems. In the past they had those ugly 10rd mags that you mention in your OP. The Savages that come with the rails are EGW rails. I am a big fan of EGW since they are a local PA company and I've done business with them often. |
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The DIY aspect is a main selling point to me as well. I looked at Savages website for the 10 round magazines for the current offering and didn't see any. So its hard to tell what kind of mags it uses. Looks proprietary. Also appears to be front bottom release that uses standard 4 round or 10 round from what I've gleaned off a Gunbroker ad. See here: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=474466151 There were previous iteration of the 10 FCP-SR which was definitely AI mags. However it has the standard bolt knob and is only in right hand. See below, not mine.  Tempted to get this but I want a left hand .308 bolt. I can work around right hand bolt guns. |
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Savage 10 FLCP-SR Good scope and rings are on hand. I'm left handed, looking to get one of these as the price is right now that it comes with an Accustock. It also allegedly comes with picatinney rail. MSRP $761 I had bought a similar right hand model (10 FCP-XP) that was exclusive to Dick's Sporting Goods but sans the oversized bolt handle, threaded muzzle, and Accustock. It came with cheap rings and cheap scope but I'd rather have those other features than a this. Not a bad package for around $600 but after I got it, I realized not all Savage 10 actions are the same, unlike my Remington 700. I couldn't find an off the shelf stock to replace the factory tupperware as the screw spacing was different than most Savages. Short of a custom stock job and realizing I couldn't squeeze any more accuracy out of it, I ended up selling it. I'm curious what magazines the newer model use. The older one had a proprietary 4 round magazine, and there was an aftermarket conversion that would give you 10 using the same magazine. Obligatory photo of the one I sold: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/FALbert/media/Bolt%20action/HPIM0917.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/FALbert/Bolt%20action/HPIM0917.jpg</a> Your post is titled the exact same as mine a little further down the page. I'll just post here instead of cluttering things up. I called Savage yesterday, and asked if they had an idea on when these should be arriving at retailers. The guy I talked to just said sometime next month. Hopefully he knew what he was talking about, and that was not just a standard answer! Looking forward to checking one out. |
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Finally bought one today. $699 on tag. Wasn't planning on it but the dealer told me there is a $100 rebate from Savage until the end of June. Hot damn! http://www.savagearms.com/promotions/ The Dick's Sporting Goods special I had was around $600 with a cheap scope, tupperware stock, weaver bases, suckass weaver rings, and Accutrigger. The new model came with these features the Dick's model didn't have: Left handed action Accustock Oversized bolt handle Picatinny rail 10 round magazine Threaded muzzle The only item I had that was a plus on the Dick's gun was Accutrigger, which obviously is included. When all said and done, for no extra cost I got more features. Can't wait to shoot it.  Added SS 5-20X FFP scope, Badger Ordnance 30mm rings, Griffen Armament 7.62 muzzle brake, Harris bipod, and Accushot monopod. |
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Now I need a couple of extra mags. Seems this is like finding a unicorn. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_16_3/1607_anybody_seen_the_Savage_10_rd_mags_.html ETA - Found extra ones at the LGS where I purchased this rifle. They said these just came in and hard to get. Part # 55184 $57.99 each |
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Quoted: *0.974 MOA That's the maximum spread using two extreme shots to derive that number. It ignores your other shots as if they never happened. Theoretically, you can take only two shots and get the same result but that's not enough of a sample. By eyeballing the "box" I could immediately see a roughly 1" area the shots occupy. Average to center takes all shots into account. Now I have to get lots of 168 gr and shoot multiple targets to see if these numbers stay in the ballpark. I only had eight rounds left from previous shooting sessions. Finding the same ammo right now is difficult. The 175 gr Black Hills came in second at 0.403 MOA. I've always had better results with the 168 gr Black Hills in every platform I've fired these from. |
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Regardless of what the average to center is, absolutely nobody measures groups in that manner. That is not a 0.341 moa group, it's an 0.974 moa group that happens to be 0.341 on average from the center on a shot by shot basis.
The extreme spread is a more important measurement than the average. |
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/279218_.html This is a classic tacked discussion thread on three shot groups. Starts getting interesting when discussing mean radius on Page 4. The US Military uses this method for ammunition acceptance because all the data points are accounted for. What's interesting is Hatcher's 1/3 rule where the mean radius is 1/3 the extreme thread. This has been virtually true in all my years of data collecting. Is this method awkward on a range or in the field? Absolutely and I wouldn't do it. But today, freeware like OnTarget makes it easy. The documentation is not the best but once you figure the mechanics out, the results can be had in less than a few minutes. I've validated this software by comparing results using the manual method. And let me tell you, I'll never use the manual method ever again. My objection to extreme spread as the benchmark for accuracy is illustrated in this example. Say the target I posted above had seven shots in that same 1" area, and the eighth shot for whatever reason landed six inches away. Is this a six inch group and call it a day? Doesn't makes sense to me that it would considering you see the majority are clustered in a small area. That's where the mean radius comes in handy. Since this is a free country, you can use any method you like and I will use mine.  Back on topic, out of the box the new 10FLCP-SR definitely shoots way better than the 10 FCP-XP I had and all things being equal the Accustock is the main contributor. The Griffin Tactical Compensator tamed the recoil where I can safely say I can shoot this all day and not get a sore shoulder, nor did it exhibit that tremendous side blast a muzzle brake would do. The top three ammo it liked was Black Hills 168 gr Match, Black Hills 175 gr match, and Hornady 168 gr A-MAX. Going to have to get a box of each, if I can find them, and go 200 yard now. |
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You can absolutely use whichever metric you like.
But that doesn't make the group ~0.3 inches though, no matter what. It's a good group regardless, but describing it as something smaller than it is in the face of conventional group scoring norms is disingenuous. You tell folks you shot a 0.3 MOA group and they're certainly not expecting a 0.9 one. |
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Savage 10 FLCP-SR Good scope and rings are on hand. I'm left handed, looking to get one of these as the price is right now that it comes with an Accustock. It also allegedly comes with picatinney rail. MSRP $761 I had bought a similar right hand model (10 FCP-XP) that was exclusive to Dick's Sporting Goods but sans the oversized bolt handle, threaded muzzle, and Accustock. It came with cheap rings and cheap scope but I'd rather have those other features than this. Not a bad package for around $600 but after I got it, I realized not all Savage 10 actions are the same, unlike my Remington 700. I couldn't find an off the shelf stock to replace the factory tupperware as the screw spacing was different than most Savages. Short of a custom stock job and realizing I couldn't squeeze any more accuracy out of it, I ended up selling it. I'm curious what magazines the newer model use. The older one had a proprietary 4 round magazine, and there was an aftermarket conversion that would give you 10 using the same magazine. Obligatory photo of the one I sold: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/FALbert/media/Bolt%20action/HPIM0917.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/FALbert/Bolt%20action/HPIM0917.jpg</a> How much did you end paying out the door for this rifle? I am in the market for this exact rifle currently. |
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$699 plus sales tax. The $100 mail in rebate at the time sealed the deal. Extra 10 round mags were about $47 Sweet. When I get back from Florida next week, I will order one from my friends shop. How do you like it? I plan on taking mine hunting this fall. |