Let's see your .22 Cal Precision rifles. OFFICIAL THREAD!! (Page 14 of 14)
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I put about 400 rounds through it today. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By DM1975: I put about 400 rounds through it today. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53155/IMG_2565_jpeg-3686345.JPG And????? |
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Originally Posted By SpeyRod: And????? The rifle did fine. I didn’t have the greatest day but could easily keep them on a 4” plate at 200 yards (smallest plate I have at 200). That was shooting bulk Federal auto match. I had one too many spacers in the cheek rest and I think that downward pressure was causing me to string my shots vertically some when I was grouping at 50 yards. I came home and switched rings out from mediums to tall rings and now it feels more comfortable and is easier to get behind the scope. |
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Originally Posted By DM1975: The rifle did fine. I didn’t have the greatest day but could easily keep them on a 4” plate at 200 yards (smallest plate I have at 200). That was shooting bulk Federal auto match. I had one too many spacers in the cheek rest and I think that downward pressure was causing me to string my shots vertically some when I was grouping at 50 yards. I came home and switched rings out from mediums to tall rings and now it feels more comfortable and is easier to get behind the scope. Thanks. Sounds good. |
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Originally Posted By SpeyRod: Thanks. Sounds good. Here are a couple examples. The orange dots are about the size of a dime or penny. This was a few at 50 yards. I just couldn’t get comfortable behind the gun. I’ve done way better with it before I switched things up. Attached File Attached File |
Having recently moved and only having access to .22RF clubs I finally got around to finish setting up my scoped Anschutz Match 54, which is the same age as me but still shoots straight (not like me).. My new club is really short range match target shooting on open sights but they do have an outdoor 50 &100 yd range which I will mostly be using. I also want to stretch it out to 200 & 300 yds when I get the opportunity.. 
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Like IcarusY625's rifle shown above, my rifle is also an Anschutz Match 54 - a barreled action in an aftermarket stock. I use that stock because it mimics my match rifle in every way. Both my rifles have the same Anschutz trigger, too. I hadn't been out shooting for a long time, but managed to shoot a decent group while re-zeroing the rifle from 100 yards down to 50 yards.  One thing the image shows is how essential it is to purposefully offset the point of impact from the point of aim if you are shooting groups. As seen above, the original point of aim got obliterated while firing these 5 shots. It really does affect groups - the point of aim becomes a little more ambiguous with each successive shot. P.S. - the roughly 1/2 MOA group seems to be the best I can do, no matter what I do. I'm working on me. It's not the rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Damon_23: Poor boy special. .22 Ruger with Arken 6-24x. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/113101/IMG_3258_jpeg-3739156.JPG But, but, but,... how does it shoot? That all that matters; price is irrelevant. |
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer: But, but, but,... how does it shoot? That all that matters; price is irrelevant. 5 shots at 50 yards Attached File Winning targets from a local 50yrd match. Attached File |
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Attached File Been having issues with that wind for the last couple weeks as well. I changed a few things on my CZ and have been shooting SK Standard Plus getting good results. |
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Very nice sir, I’ve also been using the standard plus to good results. Much cheaper than lapua and very close in performance. Pic thread Attached File |
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I’m just getting in to this with the Savage Mark II and an MDT ORYX chassis. I already had the optic and bipod. I found some aftermarket magazines from Csspecs I’m going to give a try. I haven’t shot it yet so I don’t know the results. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By livinfree: I’m just getting in to this with the Savage Mark II and an MDT ORYX chassis. I already had the optic and bipod. I found some aftermarket magazines from Csspecs I’m going to give a try. I haven’t shot it yet so I don’t know the results. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/273029/IMG_4130_jpeg-3749383.JPG Very nice, let us know how you like that chassis? I’ve been eyeballing them but not sure it’s worth it. |
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Attached File SK standard plus is still the best grab and be accurate round for not crazy $$$. With cci standard next. |
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My .22 precision family. Front to back: 3 Sigma/MPA action with 25" Brux 1:14 1.200" built my Jonathan at MCR, sitting in a MDT ACC Elite gen 2, topped with a ZCO 527 CZ457 action with 24" L3i 1:16 1.180", sitting in a MDT Premier gen 2, topped with a Mark 5 HD 5-25 KIDD supergrade receiver with 20" KIDD supergrade 1:16 0.920", sitting in a KRG Bravo, topped with a Athlon ETR 4.5-30 
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I put this budget build together last year on my old 80s 10-22 to see if I wanted to get into precision .22. It's good enough that I figured out quick that bulk and domestic ammo pretty much sucks. Some flavors of Eley work well. When the weather improves I really need to get out and shoot it more. Attached File Attached File |
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This is a new genre of shooting for me, and I tend to do things cheaply, as I'm a poor and have other obligations. Springfield 2020 rimfire, secondhand Vortex scope, cheap bipod. Once I got it dialed in, I shot a few groups for size at 50 yards. All were under an inch. The best was a half inch. Ammo was CCI sv target. One group was with HV bulk ammo, since I had that on hand for my semis. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By GF99-99: My .22 precision family. Front to back: 3 Sigma/MPA action with 25" Brux 1:14 1.200" built my Jonathan at MCR, sitting in a MDT ACC Elite gen 2, topped with a ZCO 527 CZ457 action with 24" L3i 1:16 1.180", sitting in a MDT Premier gen 2, topped with a Mark 5 HD 5-25 KIDD supergrade receiver with 20" KIDD supergrade 1:16 0.920", sitting in a KRG Bravo, topped with a Athlon ETR 4.5-30 https://i.postimg.cc/MGVbJBFQ/IMG-6234.jpg That blue rig in the front looks like a BEAST! What does it weigh? Where are the pics of its targets? |
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Attached File , CZ 457 Action, Bartlien barrel, Manners stock, Timney trigger, Area 419 scope base, rings, bolt knob, ARCA rail, DNT The One scope. |
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I would suggest you guys test ammo at 50 and at 100. Theres some eyebrow raising differences in how some ammo performs at 50 yards vs how it performs at 100. It does not scale as one would expect....ie...That "under 1/2 group" of CCI at 50 is going to be a lot closer to "under 2" at 100 than it will be "a clean 1" group" at 100 yards. It gets even worse if you do 10 shot groups. Thats not to say CCI SV is bad ammo. I have an absolute shitload of it and I like it....But I'll never use it in a offical scored shoot. |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: I would suggest you guys test ammo at 50 and at 100. Theres some eyebrow raising differences in how some ammo performs at 50 yards vs how it performs at 100. It does not scale as one would expect....ie...That "under 1/2 group" of CCI at 50 is going to be a lot closer to "under 2" at 100 than it will be "a clean 1" group" at 100 yards. It gets even worse if you do 10 shot groups. Thats not to say CCI SV is bad ammo. I have an absolute shitload of it and I like it....But I'll never use it in a offical scored shoot. Yep! 100% One of the "tricks" about shooting at 100 yards (or longer) is the effect of wind on your group size. At 100 yards, a 3 mph change in wind speed causes a 0.6" lateral deflection. I picked 3 mph because that is about the smallest change I can detect. That 1/2" group at 50 becomes a 1" group at 100 plus another 1/2" for a missed shift in the wind, putting you at 1 1/2" laterally. Add in some vertical dispersion due to shooter plus increased dispersion due to ammo issues and you could easily be at 2" overall. I have to say, errors don't add linearly but let's leave that out of this discussion. Sometimes, only sometimes, spending more money on better ammo helps your long range scores/groups. A larger number of rounds almost always leads to larger groups, too. I guess my post is all about what you should expect. Often, setting expectations is as important as the shooting. I'll shut up now. |
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Originally Posted By Trollslayer: Yep! 100% One of the "tricks" about shooting at 100 yards (or longer) is the effect of wind on your group size. At 100 yards, a 3 mph change in wind speed causes a 0.6" lateral deflection. I picked 3 mph because that is about the smallest change I can detect. That 1/2" group at 50 becomes a 1" group at 100 plus another 1/2" for a missed shift in the wind, putting you at 1 1/2" laterally. Add in some vertical dispersion due to shooter plus increased dispersion due to ammo issues and you could easily be at 2" overall. I have to say, errors don't add linearly but let's leave that out of this discussion. Sometimes, only sometimes, spending more money on better ammo helps your long range scores/groups. A larger number of rounds almost always leads to larger groups, too. I guess my post is all about what you should expect. Often, setting expectations is as important as the shooting. I'll shut up now.  Ep. 050 - Your Groups Are Too Small | SAMPLE SIZE | |
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Attached File Been awhile since I shot this one. V22 in an older XLR chassis. 8x12 steel plate hanging back at 250yards was 50 for 50. 9.9mrad of elevation |
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Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: And putting aside the fickle nature of rimfire, heres a fantastic video discussing group sizes and shots per group. The take away is.....We're doing it wrong. All of us. This is more focused on centerfire but a lot of it applies to rimfire as well  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwumAGRmz2IThe need for larger sample sizes is why I am always suggesting posters do an overlay of their groups. For example, we are shown a target with several bullseyes on it, each with 5 shots. Each group looks small. The thing is, they are 5 shot groups, each with the same aiming point relative to its bullseye but they are not at the same location on their respective targets. When overlayed, they do not present as small a group as the author would like. |
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I cannot recall if I already posted a photo of my most accurate (precision) .22LR. It is a sporter and not a true heavy barrel benchrest stocked build. But, it is accurate enough to justify Eley Black Box Match or Lapua Center X ammo. Remington 541S Custom Sporter made in the late 1960s/early '70s. Scope is a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50 with FFP EBR-2C MOA "tree" reticle and MOA turrets. Glass is not top tier, but quite acceptable for .22LR distances. Ubiquitous Harris S-BRM 6-9" bipod with notched legs. I usually use a Protektor leather rabbit ear rear bag and a modified Caldwell Rock BR with upgraded precision Japanese ball bearing set, when shooting from a bench. Front bag held in the rest is a U-shaped low Protektor bag that fits the stock profile. Both bags are filled with lead birdshot. Pretty stable for a sporter rifle.  |
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Originally Posted By aperdue: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/119080/IMG_8451-3127870.jpg @aperdue Are those small or medium rings for you scope? |
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Originally Posted By MS556: I cannot recall if I already posted a photo of my most accurate (precision) .22LR. It is a sporter and not a true heavy barrel benchrest stocked build. But, it is accurate enough to justify Eley Black Box Match or Lapua Center X ammo. Remington 541S Custom Sporter made in the late 1960s/early '70s. Scope is a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50 with FFP EBR-2C MOA "tree" reticle and MOA turrets. Glass is not top tier, but quite acceptable for .22LR distances. Ubiquitous Harris S-BRM 6-9" bipod with notched legs. I usually use a Protektor leather rabbit ear rear bag and a modified Caldwell Rock BR with upgraded precision Japanese ball bearing set, when shooting from a bench. Front bag held in the rest is a U-shaped low Protektor bag that fits the stock profile. Both bags are filled with lead birdshot. Pretty stable for a sporter rifle. https://i.postimg.cc/mkCynFN5/4FE0359B-F63D-443B-B343-58AEB8844BD4.jpg 
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