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5/14/2016 1:42:50 PM EDT
I am interested in building a 6.5 cm. I would like your opinion whether to build a bolt or Ar type in the 6.5 cm? Can they both be just as accurate if I do my part? The pros and cons and some build pics and specs? Mainly bench gun,some hunting . Bench shooting out to 800 yards. Thanks
5/14/2016 2:27:54 PM EDT
[#1]
I can't tell if you mean::

Some bench rest shooting, some hunting, and some miscellaneous shooting at 800 yards and less;

or whether you mean::

Some bench rest shooting, Some hunting at less than 800 yards, along with other shooting
?

Punctuation would help a lot.
5/15/2016 12:07:32 AM EDT
[#2]
yes, an AR has the potential to be just as accurate as a bolt. tho it will take more skill to shoot it to that degree.
tho I still have love for bolts I have gotten away from them in the last several years.
I have a DPMS REPR (semi AR) in .260 Remington (nearly identical to the CM ballisticly)
I deer hunt out to 700yards with it just fine. it is stupid easy to shoot accurately (I can only goto 700 at home)
if you are MOSTLY going to be benchrest shooting I see no reason not to get a bolt.  but for hunting I like a semi these
days for multiple targets ( they never know where it is coming from past a 1/4 mile)

bolt will be lighter (more mobile), easier to shoot to the guns potential, easier on brass for reloading, cheaper.

AR will be heavier (reduced felt recoil), 20rd magpul mags, faster follow up, CAn be easier to get good groups because you don't need to take your
hand off the rifle during a string all tho any errors on your part will be magnified.  A lot more fun engaging multiple targets.


really it will be personal preference. if you don't have a precision semi yet, give it a shot.
5/15/2016 1:22:57 AM EDT
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The ar platform I love sadly has nowhere near the accuracy potential of a bolt action.  Right off the bat you dont have the rigid steel receiver, and typically you must stick with length based not on your chamber / lands but based upon feeding and mag spec.  They can be amazingly accurate but the bolt gun still rules the accuracy roost.
5/15/2016 1:38:14 AM EDT
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I have a couple rather accurate AR's. Ones a LaRue steath that shoots real well, and ones a 18" WOA build I did with a jewell trigger and mega U/L. I havent really tried bench shooting with the LaRue although I am sure its quite accurate, and the WOA gun I have shot sub MOA at a 100yard indoor range. But My 700 built up 6mmBR is just easier to shoot well. Its heavier, and jumps around WAY less. Its not so much that a gun is more accurate that another its more which one is easier to shoot well IMO. I can watch my hits through my scope with the bolt gun. Cant do that with any AR I am aware of.
5/15/2016 2:19:51 AM EDT
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The ar platform I love sadly has nowhere near the accuracy potential of a bolt action.  Right off the bat you dont have the rigid steel receiver, and typically you must stick with length based not on your chamber / lands but based upon feeding and mag spec.  They can be amazingly accurate but the bolt gun still rules the accuracy roost.
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Not according to the moa challenge threads.
I believe an AR has held the high score in every incarnation going back 4 years to when they started.

I also happen to know that an AR had the high score on the half MOA all day challenge over on snipers hide(before the site reboot)
5/16/2016 1:12:24 AM EDT
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Well this is ar15.com.  You're going to see responders with ARs.  That response has nothing to do with which platform has the better accuracy potential.  The question isnt whether an ar can do the job of a precision rifle.  It can.

The action style lends itself well to accuracy.  Fewer moving parts, stiffer and superior lockup potential and camming power.  Far more rigid receiver, better cartridge support.. List goes on.
5/16/2016 1:37:30 AM EDT
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Well this is ar15.com.  You're going to see responders with ARs.  That response has nothing to do with which platform has the better accuracy potential.  The question isnt whether an ar can do the job of a precision rifle.  It can.

The action style lends itself well to accuracy.  Fewer moving parts, stiffer and superior lockup potential and camming power.  Far more rigid receiver, better cartridge support.. List goes on.
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I'm going to guess you haven't seen any of the challenge threads and don't know of snipers hide (not an ar15 forum)
5/16/2016 8:21:21 AM EDT
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Irrelevant - all completely irrelevant.  The bolt action is the more stable platform for accuracy - period.  It's an A to B comparison with accuracy -potential- being the only criteria.  Bolt guns hold plenty of world records holding up this ideal.  The day the heavy, unlimited gun shooters are all breaking records with ARs I'll change my mind.
5/23/2016 1:35:50 PM EDT
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I'm going to guess you haven't seen any of the challenge threads and don't know of snipers hide (not an ar15 forum)
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Well this is ar15.com.  You're going to see responders with ARs.  That response has nothing to do with which platform has the better accuracy potential.  The question isnt whether an ar can do the job of a precision rifle.  It can.

The action style lends itself well to accuracy.  Fewer moving parts, stiffer and superior lockup potential and camming power.  Far more rigid receiver, better cartridge support.. List goes on.

I'm going to guess you haven't seen any of the challenge threads and don't know of snipers hide (not an ar15 forum)

Do you think those are all real?
5/23/2016 10:54:53 PM EDT
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I think they can both achieve the same level of accuracy but the bolt gun is going to be possibly easier to get to the same number, you have less moving parts, less variables, and probably easier to shoot due to faster lock time and recoil impulse.