Posted: 3/20/2013 1:03:33 AM EDT
| I read through both pages and didn't see anything about a G19. I plan on using mine since it is the same size and weight as my duty gun but in 9mm. Will I be at a huge disadvantage? Seems the 17,34 or 35 would of been the better choice. |
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I've seen some G19s at local matches, but the sight radius is not optimal. By far, it's better for you to get out now w/ your G19 and shoot some matches than wait until you have a G34, M&P Pro, CZ Shadow, STI Edge, etc.
If your local club uses paper and big steel, you'll have no problem. Those little 5x5 steel plates just take a little more concentration w/ the short slide of a g19/23. |
| you will get a lot of admiration from us "game players" if you shoot your duty rig... the first year I shot the North Carolina Tactical match a young Sheriffs Deputy from Tenn was on my squad, and shot his duty gear... Glock in a Safariland thigh rig with SureFire... 870 with bigger SureFire, and AR with mongo Sure Fire... the 870 and AR reloads came from a home built "throw over the shoulder from the trunk of the cruiser" call out bag (this was 5 or so years prior to Sept 11)... when I asked about the lights, his comment was that when the Sun went down in the "holler" it got very dark.... |
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I don't shoot 3-gun, so I hope I'm not stepping on toes, but... Sight radius is important because angular orientation of the slide/barrel is more obvious with longer sight radius. I drew a quick and very crude pic below illustrating the position of the front sight along a barrel for a "short" and "long" sight radius pistol.  The rear sights are at the bottom. In the middle, you can see (albeit exagerated) a "short" sight radius pistol. Notice that at the angles shown, the sights are still relatively close together. Therefore, for a given angular deviation, the front sights move a small distance. Conversely, the sights on the top have moved a more obvious distance apart for the same angle. The idea is that you will be more aware of slight changes in your point of aim for longer sight radii. Sorry for the shitty picture; if it's confusing I'll try and redraw. |
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let's say that with a typical "flash" sight picture on a 6" sight radius, you have an error of 1 degree between line of "aim" and line of bullet travel... and have the same degree of error on a 7 1/2" barrel... the subtended arc down range would be less with the longer sight radius...draw a 6" line on a piece of paper, and a 7 1/2" line... draw a 1/2" line at right angles at farther end on both sides to make a 1" "T".... connect the near end of line to ends of right angle lines...extend to edge of paper... the arc with be less on the 7 1/2"...
as I get older, I machine my sights thinner, and prefer them taller |
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I'm going to dumb it down a little.
The longer the sight radius, the easier it is to see if the sights are properly aligned or not. It doesn't make the gun more accurate, it only makes shooting the gun accurately easier. Same reason it's easier to shoot a rifle than a handgun. |
| Alright, I think I get it now. The G19 I have came used with what appears to be TruGlo fiber optic sights. I like them, but the front sight sits pretty far back on the slide...........maybe half inch or so which shortens the aim even more. Are there preferred sights for the Glock? I have another with night sights. |
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I use Dawson adjustable rear and fiber front on my G34, but for a G19, my personal opinion would be to go w/ the Heinie black on black or the Warren Sevigny sights.
Or, you could save the ~$100 you would be spending to put sights on the G19, and put it towards a G34 after you've shot a few matches. |
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I'm going to dumb it down a little. The longer the sight radius, the easier it is to see if the sights are properly aligned or not. It doesn't make the gun more accurate, it only makes shooting the gun accurately easier. Same reason it's easier to shoot a rifle than a handgun. I think another big reason a rifle is easier to shoot is the gun is supported by the butttstock. You can slap a rifle trigger at pistol ranges and not be that far off. If you do that with a pistol your round can end in the dirt in front of the target Pat |
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I read through both pages and didn't see anything about a G19. I plan on using mine since it is the same size and weight as my duty gun but in 9mm. Will I be at a huge disadvantage? Seems the 17,34 or 35 would of been the better choice. I've just picked up 3-Gun myself, but shoot with my EDC G19. I don't plan on getting another pistol, just becoming a better shot. |
| I think that it depends on you. My team mate and myself have both shot well in matches shooting a G19. He has a G34 with Dawson sights and shoots better with the G19 than the G34. He could not figure it out and nether could I. Theoretically the G17 and G34 is better for the sight picture, but if you shoot with a gun that size more than the longer slide, you might be better with the shorter gun. |
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For three gun, it'll work. Having a glock, there is also less you have to think about to abandon it. Only problem with a small/light glock is that poor fundamentals will be magnified vs a full size metal gun.
If you are looking at also shooting in USPSA production, stepping into a 17/34 would be more important to you. ETA: If your sight blade is just longer, it shouldn't be a problem. But, for FO fronts, Dawson Precision and warren/sevigny seem to be popular in this community. |
| I'm not a 3gun competitor yet but I've shot IDPA with a G19 and it was fine. You're not likely to be competitive at a state or national level with one but its perfectly fine to run what you have to start out with and then upgrade as your skill level progresses to the point where your equipment is holding you back. |