300 BLK Performance on Hog? (Page 2 of 2)
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My nephew forced me into 300 blk. He offered me a new unfired triarc 10.3 300 blackout upper for 200. I didn't know how to pass it up since i have a sandman L. 110 v max three pigs shot run and die 125 tnt 2 pigs shot drt 135 speer varmint 2 pigs shot run and die 110 sp hornady 1 pig drt ...... 1 pig running bad shot it ran off (i'll give it a pass on this one) If i cared about recovering an animal it wouldn't be my choice right now. I'm not spending 80c a projectile even if the barnes are a "magic" bullet. My bang flop drt ratio is insanely high even with 223. I know if i'm the problem and can accept it i'm not the problem. |
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I've been reading and viewing a lot about the 300. I am considering adding one. Travis Haley put out a good yt vid awhile back called "300 blackout year". Its worth a watch. My observation has been that it is like two different rifles. One with subs and one with high velocity. They are not the same. Am I missing something? I would also suspect that at less than 100 yds, putting either in close proximity to an ear canal would get the job done. |
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I’ve recovered every animal I’ve ever shot with 300 blk. Big body 9 point, many other deer, big hogs. All were shot with supersonic rounds at 50-150 yards. I should publish my data. I do what makes me happy and 300blk makes me happy…but so does 7 mag, 308, 270, and 243. |
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I've shot at a number of feral hogs with .300 BLK subsonic that I had the sights right on, they were standing still and they ran off after the shot. No blood or evidence of a hit. Here is a boar I shot last week, we did had three of us hunting, my .300 BLK was loaded with Remington 120 gr OTM, and did the count down and started shooting, I was just a smidgen slow on the trigger and the shot hit way to far back. He turned and ran back the direction he came and I could see his guts flopping around in the thermal. He ran in an ark and stopped in some trees about 80 yards out. The little red dot is the entrance wound from my 2nd shot. He dropped in his tracks.  If .300 BLK isn't killing pigs within 150 yards or so, it's either poor bullet selection or poor shot placement. |
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Originally Posted By Tacosis: I read this post and thought I might have written it. I hunt and shoot a lot of hogs as well. Started with a 300 using hog hammer or black tip the first 5 rounds and then fmj. Then moved to a 6.8 and 120gr. sst backed with 90gr gold dots and it just kills so much better. I came to the same conclusion as you within the last 2 years when the prices of that ammo sky rocketed, just shoot m193. I honestly don't think I "lose" many more hogs than I did shooting the 300. The 6.8 I will say is impressive and if it was reasonably priced I'd still use it more; even those cheap 90 gold dots hammer pigs. I've actually had good results with prvi 69gr match ammo that I bought a bunch of when it was cheap. Heck 55 gr Wolf kills em dead. 75 gr Wolf works too. |
123 gr Gold Dot (intended for 7.62x39, but sized down to .308 over max charge H110) out of 12.5”AAC upper at 50-75 yds. Instant stop.1 shot. I’ve gotten several such one shot stops with it. I wish Speer would make this bullet specific for 300BLK. I’ve got 50 or so of the 150 gr 300 BLK specific bullets loaded, but I’ve never shot anything with it. ETA: I look at 300 BLK supers as underpowered 30/30, and the subs like pistol rounds. I usually only shoot the subs at stuff like racoons. I am intending to load some subs as the first rounds in my mag tonight and see if I can get any kills with just subs. Probably only take head shots with the subs. |
| I’m looking at buying one to replace my ks47. I like the performance of 7.62x39. Lots of cows around so I want to hit hard but not over penetrate. Throw a rock and 100% reliable. I have used 77grain imi reliable but it doesn’t have enough on the run. x39 good punch but my setup isn’t reliable even with work. I run suppressed and prefer 11 inch or shorter barrels. I’m walking miles in the dark so lighter is better. AR platform preferred. I may try 338 after more have tried it. x39 subs were ok up close but I try to be 50yards or less. |
| I’m looking at buying one to replace my ks47. I like the performance of 7.62x39. Lots of cows around so I want to hit hard but not over penetrate. Throw a rock and 100% reliable. I have used 77grain imi reliable but it doesn’t have enough on the run. x39 good punch but my setup isn’t reliable even with work. I run suppressed and prefer 11 inch or shorter barrels. I’m walking miles in the dark so lighter is better. AR platform preferred. I may try 338 after more have tried it. x39 subs were ok up close but I try to be 50yards or less. |
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My Dad took down 2 more 100lb hogs with his 16" blackout with a head shot and forward shoulder shot. The forward shoulder shot has been my primary aim point on the medium sized hogs since they move around and if the move forward a bit I'm still well inside the shoulder area. So far I am still happy with the close range performance of the 110V-max on the sub 150lb hogs. I took a full 150lb hog during deer season, but it was with the 7mag cause that is what was in my hands. Hopefully I can get out there in the off season and rack up a couple more kills. They always seem more skittish when I'm around. Took my 5 trips to the ranch to finally connect on a hog, and I didn't even have the "hog gun". |
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Update: used the 300bo first time this weekend. Killed 11 hit another 2. Usually only get 1-3 kills. Killed 8 in one encounter. tried cheap 300 BO psa 9 inch upper with nomad suppressor over nox35 thermal and 168gr ammo. I’m comparing it against psa AR47. 11.5 inch brass case high quality ammo variety . X39 hits a little harder. Mine jams all the time. Changed a bunch of stuff but unreliable and can’t get it straightened out. 300bo suppressor seems to work better with it. My guess is less flash but it’s a big difference. They are much more disoriented. -fed perfectly, no issues of any kind, less powder smoke. -less kick, no problem either way but was less. -more accurate. Started aiming where you should instead of just the shoulder. Dropped 2 with chest shots I never try. |
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Originally Posted By rvbrewer625: Update: used the 300bo first time this weekend. Killed 11 hit another 2. Usually only get 1-3 kills. Killed 8 in one encounter. tried cheap 300 BO psa 9 inch upper with nomad suppressor over nox35 thermal and 168gr ammo. I’m comparing it against psa AR47. 11.5 inch brass case high quality ammo variety . X39 hits a little harder. Mine jams all the time. Changed a bunch of stuff but unreliable and can’t get it straightened out. 300bo suppressor seems to work better with it. My guess is less flash but it’s a big difference. They are much more disoriented. -fed perfectly, no issues of any kind, less powder smoke. -less kick, no problem either way but was less. -more accurate. Started aiming where you should instead of just the shoulder. Dropped 2 with chest shots I never try. If you can find some copper rounds give them a shot. My kid dumped a 300lb boar with his 300 blackout with a sig sauer factory load with copper. Copper gives good penetration. |
Watching the kids shoot Pieeater's 1919 was great. Nothing warms the heart more than seeing a little kid kneeling in a pile of brass and links.-Pthfndr after the Nov 13th NorCal shoot
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Our hunt a couple weeks ago, we were pretty evenly split between .300 BLK and .308 with one guy using a .223 and one using a .350 legend. We had 10 kills with the .308, 9 kills with the .300 BLK, 2 kills with the .223 and none with the .350 legend (he had a couple shots and didn't connect) Also had 4 little piglets we cleaned up with 12 ga and buckshot. The .308 guys were running 150 gr or 165 gr bullets. The .300 BLK guys were all using 110 gr VMAX (either Ammo Inc or Hornady). The most experience hog hunters were pretty evenly split between .308 and .300 BLK and their recovery of hogs were pretty close with each recovering 4 hogs. Most were running thermals that recorded video (mine doesn't) Both calibers had hits that weren't recovered. We had two brand new hog hunters come out for a couple hours and each shot a hog with one shot from a .300 BLK. From what I can tell, shot placement made a lot more difference than caliber. That being said, the guys using .308's (all three had Ruger SFAR's) aren't looking to trade them in for a .300 BLK. And even though I'm very happy with the performance of my .300 BLK, if someone who was just looking to buy a hog gun to hunt where we were, I'd recommend the Ruger SFAR in .308. The extra power can't hurt (well it will hurt the hogs.) |
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Got some action this past weekend on a couple mid-sized hogs, both taken down with a shoulder shot with 1 round each of 110 V-Max over H110 about 19.8 grains. I was able to chrono this load from a 10.5" BA Hansen barrel and a 16" Wilson Combat Barrel. 10.5" barrel = 2200-2235 fps,, shot 5 rounds, but once I saw 2200+ I was plenty pleased and didn't bother shooting a larger group. I didn't have a target out, just ringing a plate at 100yd. 16" bareel = 2350-2400 fps, only shot maybe 4 rounds. I didn't run the velocity loss over time, but given the damage I see from the 10" barrel, I'm thinking this would be great out to 200 yds easily. About 30fps gain per inch is pretty good in my book. I'm extremely pleased with 2200fps in 10.5" barrel and the damage to these two hogs was very good. Full pass through on both shoulders, and almost complete destruction of the exit-side shoulder and liquefied chest cavity. Total I'm up to 8 hogs with the 110 V-max at 2200fps and every one were all 1-shot kills with direct shoulder shots, no head shots. All were under 150lbs, so no monsters, but also they were body shots, which I think it a great test of the expansion and terminal performance. My Dad also took 3 piglets with his 16" Wilson Combat barrel, but a 20lber is hardly noteworthy on the bullet performance. 
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My Dad continues to rack up kills with his 16" Blackout and the 110 V-max. It expands rapidly out of the 16", but still exits most of the time. Great damage and impressive killing power for such a diminutive cartridge. I just bought some 125 SST's to try in our 16" guns and see how that round works at the ~2200-2300 fps speed I expect out of the 16" barrel. With how the 110 V-max expands from the 10.5", the 125 SST may have a bit better penetration as closer ranges. The SST is also longer which I hope might provide a touch better accuracy out of the fast twist barrels, but in general if I get 1.5 moa or better I am content. |
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Originally Posted By RifleDisciple: Anybody shooting 125 SST's in the blackout? I think the shape of the bullet is perfect for Blackout. I have a ladder test loaded up, but no chance to shoot them since my last post. Looking for some feedback to confirm this bullet is worth the effort. With the lower velocity and heavier jacket it may have less than optimal terminal performance. Under 50yards it'll probably work fine. I think anything less than a CNS shot will run off a good ways. Please post your results. |
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Shot this guy on the move at about 165 yards. 1st shot hit him low in the jaw area, 2nd one grazed him on the run. He went about 80 yards and was standing still(in shock) so I put an another in him from about 40 yards. About 200 lbs. Wife dropped this guy at 110 yards. Facing us, top of the head. Dropped and kicked for a minute. About 70 lbs. 
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Originally Posted By mscout118: Shot this guy on the move at about 165 yards. 1st shot hit him low in the jaw area, 2nd one grazed him on the run. He went about 80 yards and was standing still(in shock) so I put an another in him from about 40 yards. About 200 lbs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/320646/IMG_0134-3611757.jpg Wife dropped this guy at 110 yards. Facing us, top of the head. Dropped and kicked for a minute. About 70 lbs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/320646/IMG_0132-3611759.jpg Were those with the .300 BLK or .338 ARC? |