Posted: 12/6/2011 6:57:24 AM EDT
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Is it possible to kill too many? I get to hunt on the land of a friend which is about 900 acres. Their land is butted up next to a wooded park of about another 1000 acres. Last year we harvested about 37 coyotes on their property, so lets say the land owner did not get a good review from the coyotes at hotels.com. So far this year, there has been minimal evidence of coyotes on the scale we saw last year. Last year we would find tracks on top of tracks. I guess it is still early and they are not moving around a lot because there is still sources of food available, so I have hope for the rest of the the season. Give that, is it possible to wipe the coyote slate too clean on a given property? Will we ever have another year like last year?
Another observation from Illi9nois. If you are not cold, it's not cold enough for coyote hunting. |
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I'm no expert, but 37 doesn't seem like a huge population for nearly 2,000 acres of land. Assuming of course you are the only hunters. Coyotes are highly adaptable. They probably just moved somewhere a little safer. Wow. I thought 37 was quite a large number for that size of property...Considering we only hunt half of that land. We'll see how this year turns out once we get some colder weather. |
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I'm no expert, but 37 doesn't seem like a huge population for nearly 2,000 acres of land. Assuming of course you are the only hunters. Coyotes are highly adaptable. They probably just moved somewhere a little safer. Wow. I thought 37 was quite a large number for that size of property...Considering we only hunt half of that land. We'll see how this year turns out once we get some colder weather. Again, I'm no expert. 37 might be a lot for that size land, I really don't know. I've only recently had any urge to coyote hunt. I make that assumption, because where I hog hunt, on any given night, you can hear a whole lot of them in every direction both near and far. Judging by the sounds of it, 37 wouldn't even begin to put a dent in the population there. ETA....I hope someone with some true knowledge will answer. I too am curious. |
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I'm no expert, but 37 doesn't seem like a huge population for nearly 2,000 acres of land. Assuming of course you are the only hunters. Coyotes are highly adaptable. They probably just moved somewhere a little safer. Wow. I thought 37 was quite a large number for that size of property...Considering we only hunt half of that land. We'll see how this year turns out once we get some colder weather. 37 sounds like way too much for that size land, I would "guess" more like 1 coyote per 50/100 acres would be more like a typical average. Maybe you got alot of coyotes that were just moving thru the area last year. But it may take a couple of years to get their population built back up. |
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I'm no expert, but 37 doesn't seem like a huge population for nearly 2,000 acres of land. Assuming of course you are the only hunters. Coyotes are highly adaptable. They probably just moved somewhere a little safer. Wow. I thought 37 was quite a large number for that size of property...Considering we only hunt half of that land. We'll see how this year turns out once we get some colder weather. 37 sounds like way too much for that size land, I would "guess" more like 1 coyote per 50/100 acres would be more like a typical average. Maybe you got alot of coyotes that were just moving thru the area last year. But it may take a couple of years to get their population built back up. up in Idaho maybe, here in illinois there are several counties that have a bounty on coyotes due to how high the population is, some of them pay up to $20 per coyote, all you do is bring in the ears and get paid. |
| I've averaged 11 coyotes a year for the past three years off of 6 acres, we're surrounded by National Forest and that may enter into the equation. Additionally we've missed at least 8 more and there's no telling how many caught our scent and never came to the set. Coyotes are smart and will just move to another area if the hunting pressure is too hard on them. I'll bet there are still a few yotes on your property they're just smarter. Good luck and good hunting! |
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I'm no expert, but 37 doesn't seem like a huge population for nearly 2,000 acres of land. Assuming of course you are the only hunters. Coyotes are highly adaptable. They probably just moved somewhere a little safer. Wow. I thought 37 was quite a large number for that size of property...Considering we only hunt half of that land. We'll see how this year turns out once we get some colder weather. 37 sounds like way too much for that size land, I would "guess" more like 1 coyote per 50/100 acres would be more like a typical average. Maybe you got alot of coyotes that were just moving thru the area last year. But it may take a couple of years to get their population built back up. up in Idaho maybe, here in illinois there are several counties that have a bounty on coyotes due to how high the population is, some of them pay up to $20 per coyote, all you do is bring in the ears and get paid. Wow. You are way wrong. I can assure you that western states have more coyotes per square mile than Illinois. According to the Illinois.edu/wildlife website the state has about 30,000 coyote, Illinois is made up of 37,067,520 acres. Which is 1 coyote for every 1235 acres. LINK You're welcome. EDIT: Bounties on coyotes don't work, they never have. |
| I can't believe the 30,000 coyotes is accurate. In the last two shotgun seasons there were 69,000 deer taken and that doesn't even scratch the surface on the number of deer. In some of our rural counties there are almost as many deer as people and from what I've seen there are lots of coyotes. I wouldn't be surprised to find 30,000 coyotes living in just 5 or 6 of our southern counties. How can Illinois document coyotes when they can't or won't document illegal people. |
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I can't believe the 30,000 coyotes is accurate. In the last two shotgun seasons there were 69,000 deer taken and that doesn't even scratch the surface on the number of deer. In some of our rural counties there are almost as many deer as people and from what I've seen there are lots of coyotes. I wouldn't be surprised to find 30,000 coyotes living in just 5 or 6 of our southern counties. How can Illinois document coyotes when they can't or won't document illegal people. I don't think you understand predator/prey relationships. Prey animals would be wiped out if there were that many coyotes. If there are too many predators then they will eat all the prey. This will have a disastrous effect on both populations of organisms. The prey die out because they get eaten; but the predators also die out because they run out of food to eat. |
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An older study, but seems consistent to other articles I've found. LINKY
"Studies conducted by Knowlton (1972) suggest coyote densities in certain areas of south Texas may average 4-6/mi2, with 0.5-1.0/mi2 seemingly realistic over a large portion of their range. High coyote densities in the region are associated with a broad food base as evidenced by dietary studies. Coyotes in south Texas feed on a variety of native fruit and insects during the lengthy warm season, then shift their diets to mammalian prey during the winter months."
! ETA....I know that there are far more than that where I hog hunt. It's a small 300 acre ranch and seeing 3or4 at a time is not unusual. It's also common to hear several large packs howling and barking at the same time. |
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An older study, but seems consistent to other articles I've found. LINKY "Studies conducted by Knowlton (1972) suggest coyote densities in certain areas of south Texas may average 4-6/mi2, with 0.5-1.0/mi2 seemingly realistic over a large portion of their range. High coyote densities in the region are associated with a broad food base as evidenced by dietary studies. Coyotes in south Texas feed on a variety of native fruit and insects during the lengthy warm season, then shift their diets to mammalian prey during the winter months."
! ETA....I know that there are far more than that where I hog hunt. It's a small 300 acre ranch and seeing 3or4 at a time is not unusual. It's also common to hear several large packs howling and barking at the same time. you are seeing all the coyotes for 2 square miles at once. |
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An older study, but seems consistent to other articles I've found. LINKY "Studies conducted by Knowlton (1972) suggest coyote densities in certain areas of south Texas may average 4-6/mi2, with 0.5-1.0/mi2 seemingly realistic over a large portion of their range. High coyote densities in the region are associated with a broad food base as evidenced by dietary studies. Coyotes in south Texas feed on a variety of native fruit and insects during the lengthy warm season, then shift their diets to mammalian prey during the winter months."
! ETA....I know that there are far more than that where I hog hunt. It's a small 300 acre ranch and seeing 3or4 at a time is not unusual. It's also common to hear several large packs howling and barking at the same time. The sound of howling coyotes can be deceiving. There is usually half as many as you think and they are usually twice as far away as you think. 2 coyotes yipping it up can sound like 5 or 6. |
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I'm no expert, but 37 doesn't seem like a huge population for nearly 2,000 acres of land. Assuming of course you are the only hunters. Coyotes are highly adaptable. They probably just moved somewhere a little safer. Wow. I thought 37 was quite a large number for that size of property...Considering we only hunt half of that land. We'll see how this year turns out once we get some colder weather. 37 sounds like way too much for that size land, I would "guess" more like 1 coyote per 50/100 acres would be more like a typical average. Maybe you got alot of coyotes that were just moving thru the area last year. But it may take a couple of years to get their population built back up. up in Idaho maybe, here in illinois there are several counties that have a bounty on coyotes due to how high the population is, some of them pay up to $20 per coyote, all you do is bring in the ears and get paid. Wow. You are way wrong. I can assure you that western states have more coyotes per square mile than Illinois. According to the Illinois.edu/wildlife website the state has about 30,000 coyote, Illinois is made up of 37,067,520 acres. Which is 1 coyote for every 1235 acres. LINK You're welcome. EDIT: Bounties on coyotes don't work, they never have. That page says they are common in Illinois. 30,000 in the entire state is not common by any standards. |
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Coyotes have pretty huge ranges.
One study found the males travel an average of 16.5km per day. 1 for every 1300 acres would be pretty common. I set a game camera out this year and got a lot of coyote pics, but they were the same 2 or 3 mostly, so I set another one up out the road about 2 or 3 miles. Got the same pair there too. I think our neighborhood problem of coyote overpopulation that is costing everyone their pets is really only 2 or 3 active individuals. |