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9/1/2016 8:34:16 PM EDT
Hams in the metro NY area has been dealing with this clown for years; disrupting and interfering with nets and QSOs,
using offensive or inflammatory language on air, threatening other stations, and being a general asshole.
Fingers crossed this goes somewhere.


"A New York City man faces a fine of $23,000 for operating on Amateur Radio frequencies without a license
and for transmitting a false officer-in-distress call on a New York City Police Department (NYPD) radio channel.
The FCC issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture (NAL) on August 31 to Daniel Delise of Astoria.
It details a history of complaints and alleged illegal radio operation on Delise’s part that dates back to 2012.
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FCC Proposes Substantial Fine for Unlicensed Amateur Operation, False Police Call
9/1/2016 8:59:06 PM EDT
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SINCE 2012?  

This is why we cant have nice things.
9/1/2016 9:26:39 PM EDT
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9/1/2016 9:37:57 PM EDT
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BEST part of that article!
"According to Lisenco, Delise now is serving prison time resulting from the false police call and his guilty pleas to other charges."
9/1/2016 9:53:03 PM EDT
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The FCC fine may not be at the top of Delise’s list of worries, however. According to Lisenco, Delise now is serving prison time resulting from the false police call and his guilty pleas to other charges.
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So, he probably would still be at it IF he didnt go playing with the cops.
9/1/2016 10:06:16 PM EDT
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The FCC fine may not be at the top of Delise’s list of worries, however. According to Lisenco, Delise now is serving prison time resulting from the false police call and his guilty pleas to other charges.

So, he probably would still be at it IF he didnt go playing with the cops.


Any bets when he gets out what his first $30 order on Amazon will be?
9/1/2016 11:03:38 PM EDT
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I have no problem with this.
9/1/2016 11:48:04 PM EDT
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Hams in the metro NY area has been dealing with this clown for years; disrupting and interfering with nets and QSOs,
using offensive or inflammatory language on air, threatening other stations, and being a general asshole.
Fingers crossed this goes somewhere.


"A New York City man faces a fine of $23,000 for operating on Amateur Radio frequencies without a license
and for transmitting a false officer-in-distress call on a New York City Police Department (NYPD) radio channel.
The FCC issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture (NAL) on August 31 to Daniel Delise of Astoria.
It details a history of complaints and alleged illegal radio operation on Delise’s part that dates back to 2012.
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I assume this was the idiot on 146.85 repeater, and the reason I did not renew my membership with that club last year...
Every time I checked into a net, or just wanted to BS, he was there.  I even offered assistance any way I could to help get rid of him.

Bill
9/2/2016 10:18:37 AM EDT
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Any bets when he gets out what his first $30 order on Amazon will be?
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The FCC fine may not be at the top of Delise’s list of worries, however. According to Lisenco, Delise now is serving prison time resulting from the false police call and his guilty pleas to other charges.

So, he probably would still be at it IF he didnt go playing with the cops.


Any bets when he gets out what his first $30 order on Amazon will be?


Colo-rectal reconstruction surgery has to be more than that, so I'll say......a Extra Large butt plug?
9/2/2016 7:45:56 PM EDT
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IF he straightens up after he gets out. But like someone said, guess what his first Amazon order is going to be?

Actually a Bronx party hat would probably do more good as he likely ain't going to have any money to pay the fine.
9/2/2016 8:33:50 PM EDT
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All I would have needed would be an airplane ticket. I'll supply the attitude adjustment tool:
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9/2/2016 8:37:50 PM EDT
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Hard as a motherfucker?
9/2/2016 9:49:49 PM EDT
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Wait,

A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?
9/2/2016 11:56:00 PM EDT
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Colo-rectal reconstruction surgery has to be more than that, so I'll say......a Extra Large butt plug?
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The FCC fine may not be at the top of Delise’s list of worries, however. According to Lisenco, Delise now is serving prison time resulting from the false police call and his guilty pleas to other charges.

So, he probably would still be at it IF he didnt go playing with the cops.


Any bets when he gets out what his first $30 order on Amazon will be?


Colo-rectal reconstruction surgery has to be more than that, so I'll say......a Extra Large butt plug?


9/2/2016 11:56:54 PM EDT
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9/3/2016 12:06:00 AM EDT
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?
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I'm amazed that one of the largest police agencies in the US are working with technology that can be trolled with a $30 radio

I don't see how possessing a radio could be illegal, while granted if your not licensed to operate on certain frequencies and are conducting transmissions are.  This just has the potential to hurt all of us with these idiots....  When they start interfering with .GOV the liberals are gonna cry and may start passing more laws to "prevent" this from happening again
9/3/2016 12:28:20 AM EDT
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?
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Can the Baofengs operate on P25?
9/3/2016 12:38:46 AM EDT
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The $100 Tyteras do and will work that freq.
9/3/2016 7:13:26 AM EDT
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?
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From what I understand he was in possession of NYPD issued HT's that had been reported lost or stolen.

9/3/2016 10:26:27 AM EDT
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?



Can the Baofengs operate on P25?


They only cite the frequency. Do state laws typically prohibit transmitters that can operate on police freqs?
9/3/2016 5:02:56 PM EDT
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?



Can the Baofengs operate on P25?


They only cite the frequency. Do state laws typically prohibit transmitters that can operate on police freqs?


Hi TNC,
I'm gonna say no at least in general as the feds don't prohibit possession. It's the 'use of' where they get caught.
Might be illegal in NY but how do you enforce that.(possession) hth
73,
Rob
9/3/2016 6:00:59 PM EDT
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Hi TNC,
I'm gonna say no at least in general as the feds don't prohibit possession. It's the 'use of' where they get caught.
Might be illegal in NY but how do you enforce that.(possession) hth
73,
Rob
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?



Can the Baofengs operate on P25?


They only cite the frequency. Do state laws typically prohibit transmitters that can operate on police freqs?


Hi TNC,
I'm gonna say no at least in general as the feds don't prohibit possession. It's the 'use of' where they get caught.
Might be illegal in NY but how do you enforce that.(possession) hth
73,
Rob


That's the way it should be. Prohibit the action, not the object.
9/4/2016 9:46:51 AM EDT
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?



Can the Baofengs operate on P25?


They only cite the frequency. Do state laws typically prohibit transmitters that can operate on police freqs?


Albany and NYC do all sorts of stupid things like SAFE and "gravity knives," so I was wondering if this was just another instance or poor reporting or something else.
9/4/2016 3:24:18 PM EDT
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The possession charge is rather like the burglary tools charge.  All burglary tools are legal to own until used to break into a house.
9/4/2016 7:40:29 PM EDT
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We know that NY loves to prohibit crazy things like standard sized soft drinks and standard capacity magazines, single cigarettes, etc. so a $30 Chinese radio would fit right in.

This is probably alongside their stupid scanner law (which exempts hams kinda-sorta, and more solidly in case law).   And there is also this (from RR forum):   P.R. Docket 91-36 (a.k.a., FCC 93-410). In it, the FCC holds that lower-level laws restricting the usage out-of-band-capable transceivers by licensed hams are preeempted by federal law.

So yeah, in NY your Baofeng is probably illegal (along with lots of other things) - but you are apparently exempt if you are a ham, or have a special permit issued by a county or other local authority.
9/5/2016 5:15:26 PM EDT
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I'm amazed that one of the largest police agencies in the US are working with technology that can be trolled with a $30 radio

I don't see how possessing a radio could be illegal, while granted if your not licensed to operate on certain frequencies and are conducting transmissions are.  This just has the potential to hurt all of us with these idiots....  When they start interfering with .GOV the liberals are gonna cry and may start passing more laws to "prevent" this from happening again
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?


I'm amazed that one of the largest police agencies in the US are working with technology that can be trolled with a $30 radio

I don't see how possessing a radio could be illegal, while granted if your not licensed to operate on certain frequencies and are conducting transmissions are.  This just has the potential to hurt all of us with these idiots....  When they start interfering with .GOV the liberals are gonna cry and may start passing more laws to "prevent" this from happening again


Houston is the same way for fire and pd, still straight uhf for most everything
9/5/2016 5:34:28 PM EDT
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I assume this was the idiot on 146.85 repeater, and the reason I did not renew my membership with that club last year...
Every time I checked into a net, or just wanted to BS, he was there.  I even offered assistance any way I could to help get rid of him.

Bill
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Hams in the metro NY area has been dealing with this clown for years; disrupting and interfering with nets and QSOs,
using offensive or inflammatory language on air, threatening other stations, and being a general asshole.
Fingers crossed this goes somewhere.


"A New York City man faces a fine of $23,000 for operating on Amateur Radio frequencies without a license
and for transmitting a false officer-in-distress call on a New York City Police Department (NYPD) radio channel.
The FCC issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture (NAL) on August 31 to Daniel Delise of Astoria.
It details a history of complaints and alleged illegal radio operation on Delise’s part that dates back to 2012.
"

FCC Proposes Substantial Fine for Unlicensed Amateur Operation, False Police Call


I assume this was the idiot on 146.85 repeater, and the reason I did not renew my membership with that club last year...
Every time I checked into a net, or just wanted to BS, he was there.  I even offered assistance any way I could to help get rid of him.

Bill

There was a guy like that on the local CB channels back home around 1988.

Does "that guy" ever have a job or need to sleep? 3pm or 3am, ol' Pickle Dick (our name for him) was always making noise of some variety or another.
9/6/2016 9:46:22 AM EDT
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4 years of complaints and they're only now doing soemthing about it.  Laughable.  And I'm sure the ARRL will parade this around like a trophy buck on the hood of a truck, letting every one know "hey ya'll the FCC boogey man is still out there to get ya."
9/6/2016 5:09:13 PM EDT
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Houston is the same way for fire and pd, still straight uhf for most everything
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?


I'm amazed that one of the largest police agencies in the US are working with technology that can be trolled with a $30 radio

I don't see how possessing a radio could be illegal, while granted if your not licensed to operate on certain frequencies and are conducting transmissions are.  This just has the potential to hurt all of us with these idiots....  When they start interfering with .GOV the liberals are gonna cry and may start passing more laws to "prevent" this from happening again


Houston is the same way for fire and pd, still straight uhf for most everything


The city of Houston and surrounding areas are on the TXWARN 7/800 P25 system...
9/6/2016 6:26:18 PM EDT
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Houston is the same way for fire and pd, still straight uhf for most everything
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?


I'm amazed that one of the largest police agencies in the US are working with technology that can be trolled with a $30 radio

I don't see how possessing a radio could be illegal, while granted if your not licensed to operate on certain frequencies and are conducting transmissions are.  This just has the potential to hurt all of us with these idiots....  When they start interfering with .GOV the liberals are gonna cry and may start passing more laws to "prevent" this from happening again


Houston is the same way for fire and pd, still straight uhf for most everything


I thought HPD went digital?  I know FOX is on 800mhz.
9/6/2016 6:52:58 PM EDT
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I thought HPD went digital?  I know FOX is on 800mhz.
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?


I'm amazed that one of the largest police agencies in the US are working with technology that can be trolled with a $30 radio

I don't see how possessing a radio could be illegal, while granted if your not licensed to operate on certain frequencies and are conducting transmissions are.  This just has the potential to hurt all of us with these idiots....  When they start interfering with .GOV the liberals are gonna cry and may start passing more laws to "prevent" this from happening again


Houston is the same way for fire and pd, still straight uhf for most everything


I thought HPD went digital?  I know FOX is on 800mhz.


See my post above. HPD and surrounding areas are on TXWARN. P25 trunked Phase 1 and 2.
9/6/2016 8:23:02 PM EDT
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9/9/2016 2:38:41 PM EDT
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?



Can the Baofengs operate on P25?


If I can decode P25 by connecting a radio to my PC, I don't see why it couldn't be packetized before transmission.  The protocol details are out there.

Many public safety radios that use P25 also have the option of going analog since analog will work in much crappier conditions than digital.

I'm also interested in this NY "law" that restricts radios that can TX in police bands.  The UV-5X3 will TX 420-520.99MHz.  Going to do some research.

ETA:  P25 is not necessarily encrypted.  It just provides the option to AES encrypt since we are now dealing with digital.  I would guess that most P25 traffic is not encrypted since running an AES processor would just suck more battery life.
9/9/2016 3:19:59 PM EDT
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If I can decode P25 by connecting a radio to my PC, I don't see why it couldn't be packetized before transmission.  The protocol details are out there.

Many public safety radios that use P25 also have the option of going analog since analog will work in much crappier conditions than digital.

I'm also interested in this NY "law" that restricts radios that can TX in police bands.  The UV-5X3 will TX 420-520.99MHz.  Going to do some research.

ETA:  P25 is not necessarily encrypted.  It just provides the option to AES encrypt since we are now dealing with digital.  I would guess that most P25 traffic is not encrypted since running an AES processor would just suck more battery life.
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A couple of weeks later, the NYPD informed an FCC field agent that it had taken Delise into custody for “sending out false radio transmissions” over the NYPD radio system and for possessing radios capable of operating on NYPD frequencies, in violation of state law.

NYPD uses channels around 476MHz. Baofengs can transmit on 400-480MHz. Does this mean that Baofengs are all illegal in New York?



Can the Baofengs operate on P25?


If I can decode P25 by connecting a radio to my PC, I don't see why it couldn't be packetized before transmission.  The protocol details are out there.

Many public safety radios that use P25 also have the option of going analog since analog will work in much crappier conditions than digital.

I'm also interested in this NY "law" that restricts radios that can TX in police bands.  The UV-5X3 will TX 420-520.99MHz.  Going to do some research.

ETA:  P25 is not necessarily encrypted.  It just provides the option to AES encrypt since we are now dealing with digital.  I would guess that most P25 traffic is not encrypted since running an AES processor would just suck more battery life.


I don't know about NY, but here is the law for Texas.



Sec. 38.152.  INTERFERENCE WITH RADIO FREQUENCY LICENSED TO GOVERNMENT ENTITY.  (a)  A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the law enforcement agency, fire department, or emergency medical services provider, the person intentionally interrupts, disrupts, impedes, jams, or otherwise interferes with a radio frequency that is licensed by the Federal Communications Commission to a government entity and is used by the law enforcement agency, fire department, or emergency medical services provider.
(b)  An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that the offense is a state jail felony if the actor committed the offense with the intent to:
(1)  facilitate the commission of another offense; or
(2)  interfere with the ability of a law enforcement agency, a fire department, or an emergency medical services provider to respond to an emergency.
(c)  In this section:
(1)  "Emergency" has the meaning assigned by Section 38.15.
(2)  "Emergency medical services provider" has the meaning assigned by Section 773.003, Health and Safety Code.
(3)  "Law enforcement agency" has the meaning assigned by Article 59.01, Code of Criminal Procedure.
(d)  If conduct constituting an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under another section of this code, the actor may be prosecuted under either section or under both sections.

Added by Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 1222 (S.B. 1273), Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2009.



ETA: Found the NY law

S 195.07 Obstructing governmental administration in the first degree.
 A person is guilty of obstructing governmental administration in the
first degree when he commits the crime of obstructing governmental
administration in the second degree by means of interfering with a
telecommunications system thereby causing serious physical injury to
another person.
 Obstructing governmental administration in the first degree is a class
E felony.