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9/15/2013 9:31:31 AM EDT
How to broadcasting radios run 24hrs a day 7 days a week? Just wondering
9/15/2013 9:33:47 AM EDT
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Simple they are designed to run continuously

9/15/2013 10:24:58 AM EDT
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They're designed for CCS where our gear is designed for ICAS.

http://www.ab4oj.com/quadra/icas.html
9/15/2013 10:40:59 AM EDT
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Interesting about ICAS and CCS. Does that mean modern FM stations are still using tubes?
9/15/2013 10:43:24 AM EDT
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Virtually all high power broadcast uses tube amplifiers, has nothing to do with the duty cycle, just cost, efficiency and complexity to get the output power.
9/15/2013 10:47:54 AM EDT
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Many broadcast stations still use tubes. Really huge tubes. I have seen ones used in AM. They use it to heat their small studio in the winter no joke.
9/15/2013 11:29:31 AM EDT
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Many broadcast stations still use tubes. Really huge tubes. I have seen ones used in AM. They use it to heat their small studio in the winter no joke.
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Many broadcast stations still use tubes. Really huge tubes. I have seen ones used in AM. They use it to heat their small studio in the winter no joke.


People don't think about it, but the size of those tubes is a huge (ha) advantage over transistors.  More surface area makes them much simpler to cool.  
9/15/2013 12:00:56 PM EDT
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Water-cooled tubes.  Connected to a cooling pond.

At least that's how they did it in the 30s when they wanted to run 500KW at WLW.  

Check out the video below.  It's a really interesting story.  


WLW's 500KW Transmitter
9/15/2013 1:10:41 PM EDT
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Water-cooled tubes.  Connected to a cooling pond.

At least that's how they did it in the 30s when they wanted to run 500KW at WLW.  

Check out the video below.  It's a really interesting story.  


WLW's 500KW Transmitter
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I haven't watched the long video but the 10min video is really cool. WLW is a very historic station. We have 1190 WOWO near my QTH. My dad is a collector of battery type antique radios, he also has the original microphone and monitor horn from WOWO in 1925 along with a lot of their old transmitting tubes from that era. It's a damned shame dad is such a private person, I wish he would allow people to view his collection even just online. He has every model and variation of Atwater Kent breadboards. And they all work

An antidote about my dad, KM has known my dad longer than I've been alive, and I am sure he's never seen it.
9/15/2013 1:22:03 PM EDT
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I haven't watched the long video but the 10min video is really cool. WLW is a very historic station. We have 1190 WOWO near my QTH. My dad is a collector of battery type antique radios, he also has the original microphone and monitor horn from WOWO in 1925 along with a lot of their old transmitting tubes from that era. It's a damned shame dad is such a private person, I wish he would allow people to view his collection even just online. He has every model and variation of Atwater Kent breadboards. And they all work

An antidote about my dad, KM has known my dad longer than I've been alive, and I am sure he's never seen it.
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Water-cooled tubes.  Connected to a cooling pond.

At least that's how they did it in the 30s when they wanted to run 500KW at WLW.  

Check out the video below.  It's a really interesting story.  


WLW's 500KW Transmitter


I haven't watched the long video but the 10min video is really cool. WLW is a very historic station. We have 1190 WOWO near my QTH. My dad is a collector of battery type antique radios, he also has the original microphone and monitor horn from WOWO in 1925 along with a lot of their old transmitting tubes from that era. It's a damned shame dad is such a private person, I wish he would allow people to view his collection even just online. He has every model and variation of Atwater Kent breadboards. And they all work

An antidote about my dad, KM has known my dad longer than I've been alive, and I am sure he's never seen it.


That was a cool video.

Elijah you need to talk your dad into a video!
9/15/2013 1:30:28 PM EDT
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That was a cool video.

Elijah you need to talk your dad into a video!
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Water-cooled tubes.  Connected to a cooling pond.

At least that's how they did it in the 30s when they wanted to run 500KW at WLW.  

Check out the video below.  It's a really interesting story.  


WLW's 500KW Transmitter


I haven't watched the long video but the 10min video is really cool. WLW is a very historic station. We have 1190 WOWO near my QTH. My dad is a collector of battery type antique radios, he also has the original microphone and monitor horn from WOWO in 1925 along with a lot of their old transmitting tubes from that era. It's a damned shame dad is such a private person, I wish he would allow people to view his collection even just online. He has every model and variation of Atwater Kent breadboards. And they all work

An antidote about my dad, KM has known my dad longer than I've been alive, and I am sure he's never seen it.


That was a cool video.

Elijah you need to talk your dad into a video!


Quite frankly I've been trying for years. He is a very nice guy, just very private. Almost like he is embarrassed about it.

When I first got active again I was using his station while I was saving for my rig. A guy asked me what I was using. I told the guy, I was using an Icom 7800 (this is when they first came out) he grabbed the log book quickly and wrote Icom 756, and told me that no one really needed to know what radio he had and to tell them that instead.
9/15/2013 1:48:53 PM EDT
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Quite frankly I've been trying for years. He is a very nice guy, just very private. Almost like he is embarrassed about it.

When I first got active again I was using his station while I was saving for my rig. A guy asked me what I was using. I told the guy, I was using an Icom 7800 (this is when they first came out) he grabbed the log book quickly and wrote Icom 756, and told me that no one really needed to know what radio he had and to tell them that instead.
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Water-cooled tubes.  Connected to a cooling pond.

At least that's how they did it in the 30s when they wanted to run 500KW at WLW.  

Check out the video below.  It's a really interesting story.  


WLW's 500KW Transmitter


I haven't watched the long video but the 10min video is really cool. WLW is a very historic station. We have 1190 WOWO near my QTH. My dad is a collector of battery type antique radios, he also has the original microphone and monitor horn from WOWO in 1925 along with a lot of their old transmitting tubes from that era. It's a damned shame dad is such a private person, I wish he would allow people to view his collection even just online. He has every model and variation of Atwater Kent breadboards. And they all work

An antidote about my dad, KM has known my dad longer than I've been alive, and I am sure he's never seen it.


That was a cool video.

Elijah you need to talk your dad into a video!


Quite frankly I've been trying for years. He is a very nice guy, just very private. Almost like he is embarrassed about it.

When I first got active again I was using his station while I was saving for my rig. A guy asked me what I was using. I told the guy, I was using an Icom 7800 (this is when they first came out) he grabbed the log book quickly and wrote Icom 756, and told me that no one really needed to know what radio he had and to tell them that instead.


OPSEC, your old man has it!
9/15/2013 3:56:33 PM EDT
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Water-cooled tubes.  Connected to a cooling pond.

At least that's how they did it in the 30s when they wanted to run 500KW at WLW.  

Check out the video below.  It's a really interesting story.  


WLW's 500KW Transmitter


I haven't watched the long video but the 10min video is really cool. WLW is a very historic station. We have 1190 WOWO near my QTH. My dad is a collector of battery type antique radios, he also has the original microphone and monitor horn from WOWO in 1925 along with a lot of their old transmitting tubes from that era. It's a damned shame dad is such a private person, I wish he would allow people to view his collection even just online. He has every model and variation of Atwater Kent breadboards. And they all work

An antidote about my dad, KM has known my dad longer than I've been alive, and I am sure he's never seen it.


That was a cool video.

Elijah you need to talk your dad into a video!


Quite frankly I've been trying for years. He is a very nice guy, just very private. Almost like he is embarrassed about it.

When I first got active again I was using his station while I was saving for my rig. A guy asked me what I was using. I told the guy, I was using an Icom 7800 (this is when they first came out) he grabbed the log book quickly and wrote Icom 756, and told me that no one really needed to know what radio he had and to tell them that instead.


OPSEC, your old man has it!



To be honest I also don't like divulging what is in the shack.

At one time I had over 10K of equipment, it is a bit like say in come rob me

9/15/2013 4:03:33 PM EDT
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^^^^^ I am breaking the quote tree.

I don't really care it's all insured, rider on my homeowners, and my wife shoots better than most.  To me a tower is more dangerous if you are worried by it.
9/15/2013 4:06:49 PM EDT
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I don't really care it's all insured, rider on my homeowners, and my wife shoots better than most.  To me a tower is more dangerous if you are worried by it.
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I can understand that, but I had a friend who had his home broken into
and it is that some crooks tens to break or take some irreplaceable things

Plus the whole "violated" thing
9/15/2013 4:10:21 PM EDT
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Been robbed before, once at gun point. I agree it sucks ass.  

9/15/2013 4:26:13 PM EDT
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Anyways, I watched the 30 min video. It was so damned cool. Laissez-faire broadcasting was so cool. I bet WLW could be heard world wide with 500kW
9/15/2013 4:53:02 PM EDT
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That's really cool  

thanks for posting it.