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6/21/2010 11:08:52 AM EDT
Instead of creating a hijack in another thread I thought I would ask a few questions about building a homebrew GPS system.

1. What do I need to interface with the GPS satellite sytem? Is it a package deal of antenna and reciever?

2. Does free software exist that would interface with the above and allow it to run on a laptop in a vehicle?

I am sure someone is knowledgeable on this subject and I hope you don't mind me picking your brains.  I got into ham because technology fascinates me, and I think the ability to assemble a home brew-ish GPS system is awesome.  I've been looking around and I can't find a definitive source on this subject, so if you can point me in the right direction that is always good too.  I fully realize I can buy a Tom-Tom for $100, but its just not at the level of awesome that tinkering and building my own would be.

Thanks in advance
6/21/2010 11:28:11 AM EDT
[#1]
Look for a Holux USB GPS Puck on ebay.  That has the antenna and receiver built it and they are pretty cheap.  Most of them also have a connector to use an external active GPS antenna if you ever need it.  Then it's just a matter of software.  I'm currently using a Holux GPSlim236 bluetooth puck.



ETA: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Holux-USB-Mouse-GPS-Receiver-GR-213-SiRF-III-/230475078842?cmd=ViewItem&pt=GPS_Devices&hash=item35a9629cba

6/22/2010 3:07:29 PM EDT
[#2]
I've never heard of anyone intercepting the GPS signals and being able to do anything with them. The math to actually calculate a position is ummm.... complex?

Not impossible but with GPS pucks and interfacable chips being so cheap there's almost no reason.
6/22/2010 7:04:43 PM EDT
[#3]
I got a Motorola GPS board out of an early GM car with on-star.  There used to be a kit from Tuscon packet radio ( http://www.tapr.org/gps_vpib.html ) for integrating with the onstar board, but they quit making it since GPS units got so cheap.  I built mine in  small project box, and wired it to the vehicle power, remote antenna etc.  The project had a very simple RS232 serial interface DB9 connector.  You had to fire it up the first time, connect a PC to it via the serial and send it a few commands using a terminal com program to get it started.  Then it just ran, spewing NMEA sentences out the serial connection.  I used this kit to drive my Kenwood D700 APRS for several years,  Now, nearly any GPS unit will burp out NMEA...but back then it was kinda unique.
6/22/2010 7:45:57 PM EDT
[#4]
Thou shalt begin with Sparkfun.  And you'll need some degree of CPU power too.  May I suggest FEZ, Arduino or Blueboard?

ETA:  All the GPS modules that Sparkfun sells (as far as I know) output NMEA which you can route to your TNC (through a level converter if necessary).  But you get homebrew bonus points if you put the data through a microcontroller and do something interesting with it first.  
6/22/2010 7:53:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Bleeding over from the packet thread above.......

http://www.garydion.com/projects/whereavr/

How would that be for cool points? Arduino based SOFTWARE TNC?
6/22/2010 8:11:41 PM EDT
[#6]
I bought one if these



http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-18x-LVC-Navigator-Unit/dp/B0016O3T7A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1277266183&sr=8-1



Wired it to USB for power and then serial for the output. I'm not using it for GPS coords but rather its PPS (pulse per second) signal as a precise method to sync my server clock on my home network which all my systems in my house then sync to.





-Foxxz
6/23/2010 5:29:01 AM EDT
[#7]
Well there goes another productive day at work.....

Thanks everyone for the awesome ideas