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8/30/2007 1:42:50 PM EDT
Which models should I look for, and what accessories do I need?

Thanks!
8/30/2007 6:04:25 PM EDT
[#1]
www.batlabs.com/saber.html
This has what the different model numbers mean, so if you find one, you can tell its capabilities from the model number.

I only have knockoff handmics, from kawamall.com/.  You will also need a charger.  I use the deskcharge/analyzer.
8/31/2007 12:19:48 PM EDT
[#2]
If you are not in a rush, there is a member here who used to have quite a few for sale.  He knows a lot more about them than I do.  


I have a keyloader I might want to sell  
9/1/2007 5:58:55 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
If you are not in a rush, there is a member here who used to have quite a few for sale.  He knows a lot more about them than I do.  


I have a keyloader I might want to sell  


Let's talk about that once I figure out what exactly I need.  

Here's my WANT list:

Commonly available and relatively inexpensive when purchased used
Water resistant
Secure (not Secure-capable, I want the module already installed)
batteries readily available
reasonably rugged
programmable with a laptop


any thoughts?
9/1/2007 11:56:11 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Here's my WANT list:

Commonly available and relatively inexpensive when purchased used



Well the analog sabers are cheaper than ever.  The last few I bought were $25 each That's just the radio, no antenna, battery, or charger.  Those usually need to be replaced anyway.



Quoted:
Water resistant



The regular sabers are rather water resistant, but they also made "submersible" versions as well.



Quoted:
Secure (not Secure-capable, I want the module already installed)



Well lots of sellers can install various modules.  



Quoted:
batteries readily available



They'll be selling saber batteries for a long time.  There are still agencies using sabers, as well as Astro Sabers (which use the same battery)  



Quoted:
reasonably rugged



I've dropped mine several times, and since it was a .mil radio, it was probably dropped more than one in the 10-15 years they owned it     You can always get a Saber R.  That requires a special battery, but you can use it as a hammer  



Quoted:
programmable with a laptop



The software is no longer sold, but there are lots of people who have it     The biggest hurdle is an old laptop to run the RSS on, and getting/building a RIB and cables to program the radios with.   You'll also need a keyloader for the encryption keys.


The astro sabers (that are dropping in price every day) are easier to program, as they dont require a 15-20 year old computer.  They also give you the full bandsplit in the VHF version (136-174) and widebanded in the UHF versions (403-470 & 450-512).  

I was carrying an Astro Saber III UHF today at the hamfest, along with a few other Astro users  (missed ya' Tim  )