Posted: 8/21/2010 5:07:48 AM EDT
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I've got a good collection of CZ rifles, 22, 221,223, and '06, pluss a couple of Remchesters I'm strongly thinking of adding a 375H&H to the litter. The reason being is that I'm looking at retirement in the 7-10 years and want to have my hunting equipment well rounded out while I'm still working.
Is anyone using a 375 on deer, elk, or caribou? My plan is to go to Labador to hunt caribou. |
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I've got a good collection of CZ rifles, 22, 221,223, and '06, pluss a couple of Remchesters I'm strongly thinking of adding a 375H&H to the litter. The reason being is that I'm looking at retirement in the 7-10 years and want to have my hunting equipment well rounded out while I'm still working. Is anyone using a 375 on deer, elk, or caribou? My plan is to go to Labador to hunt caribou. I have a Remington 700 in 375 H&H it is a great gun. I traded for it a while back only shot on the range as of now. But soon in the next month or so, I'm taking a buffalo with it. It might be a little much for a dear it is a big ass round. I have never hunted elk or caribou but judging by their size i'd say it is a good caliber to take them. |
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I've got a good collection of CZ rifles, 22, 221,223, and '06, pluss a couple of Remchesters I'm strongly thinking of adding a 375H&H to the litter. The reason being is that I'm looking at retirement in the 7-10 years and want to have my hunting equipment well rounded out while I'm still working. Is anyone using a 375 on deer, elk, or caribou? My plan is to go to Labador to hunt caribou. I have a Remington 700 in 375 H&H it is a great gun. I traded for it a while back only shot on the range as of now. But soon in the next month or so, I'm taking a buffalo with it. It might be a little much for a dear it is a big ass round. I have never hunted elk or caribou but judging by their size i'd say it is a good caliber to take them. What are you shooting in it? Are you reloading and working your way up to full house loads, or just shooting factory ammo? I luck out yesterday and while checking the local pawn shop I found a set of as new or nos RCBS dies and a shell holder for $28 and on a dusty shelf they had 3 boxes of the old yellow boxes of Winchester 300 gr silver tips $20 a box. I'll call that a score. |
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My cousin used to shoot caribou with a .223. Understand that the only thing you need a .375 for on North America is big bear. That said I used it or ballistic equivalents (9.3x62) to kill deer and moose and will do so again in the future.
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I've got a good collection of CZ rifles, 22, 221,223, and '06, pluss a couple of Remchesters I'm strongly thinking of adding a 375H&H to the litter. The reason being is that I'm looking at retirement in the 7-10 years and want to have my hunting equipment well rounded out while I'm still working. Is anyone using a 375 on deer, elk, or caribou? My plan is to go to Labador to hunt caribou. I have a Remington 700 in 375 H&H it is a great gun. I traded for it a while back only shot on the range as of now. But soon in the next month or so, I'm taking a buffalo with it. It might be a little much for a dear it is a big ass round. I have never hunted elk or caribou but judging by their size i'd say it is a good caliber to take them. What are you shooting in it? Are you reloading and working your way up to full house loads, or just shooting factory ammo? I luck out yesterday and while checking the local pawn shop I found a set of as new or nos RCBS dies and a shell holder for $28 and on a dusty shelf they had 3 boxes of the old yellow boxes of Winchester 300 gr silver tips $20 a box. I'll call that a score. Just factory ammo, unknown maker though, I got about 30 rounds in the trade so I have been shooting them. |
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I've got a good collection of CZ rifles, 22, 221,223, and '06, pluss a couple of Remchesters I'm strongly thinking of adding a 375H&H to the litter. The reason being is that I'm looking at retirement in the 7-10 years and want to have my hunting equipment well rounded out while I'm still working. Is anyone using a 375 on deer, elk, or caribou? My plan is to go to Labador to hunt caribou. I would not go .375 for North American game. The .338 Win Mag is better balanced for anything here including the biggest bears and it shoots slightly flatter. Actually, if you seldom hunt beyond 225 yards or so, at shorter ranges a .35 Whelen or 9.3x62 will do what a .338 Win Mag will do. Of these two, the 9.3 is overwelmingly more popular world wide and has been on RCBS's 50 most popular die list in the US most of the last decade. The .35 Whelen, fine cartridge that it may be, never makes the list. The 9.3 is little more powrful on paper, but in truth the two are vitually identical in the field. The .375 is 2 big steps up in recoil from the '06 and just isn't needed for anything here. Only thick skinned African dangerous game and giraffe. The .338 is 1 big step up in recoil from the '06 and is just right for the largest NA game, even at long range. The .35 Whelen and 9.3x62 will kill like a .338 Win Mag at close range and are only about a half step up in recoil from the '06. |
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I've got a good collection of CZ rifles, 22, 221,223, and '06, pluss a couple of Remchesters I'm strongly thinking of adding a 375H&H to the litter. The reason being is that I'm looking at retirement in the 7-10 years and want to have my hunting equipment well rounded out while I'm still working. Is anyone using a 375 on deer, elk, or caribou? My plan is to go to Labador to hunt caribou. I would not go .375 for North American game. The .338 Win Mag is better balanced for anything here including the biggest bears and it shoots slightly flatter. Actually, if you seldom hunt beyond 225 yards or so, at shorter ranges a .35 Whelen or 9.3x62 will do what a .338 Win Mag will do. Of these two, the 9.3 is overwelmingly more popular world wide and has been on RCBS's 50 most popular die list in the US most of the last decade. The .35 Whelen, fine cartridge that it may be, never makes the list. The 9.3 is little more powrful on paper, but in truth the two are vitually identical in the field. The .375 is 2 big steps up in recoil from the '06 and just isn't needed for anything here. Only thick skinned African dangerous game and giraffe. The .338 is 1 big step up in recoil from the '06 and is just right for the largest NA game, even at long range. The .35 Whelen and 9.3x62 will kill like a .338 Win Mag at close range and are only about a half step up in recoil from the '06. True, but I want the big gun..... Call me Bawanna! 
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| I've killed feral hogs and several whitetail deer with my .416 Rigby. Other than breaking more ribs, the 400 grain soft points don't tear them up any worse than a .270, .30-06 class cartridge. Go get the .375 H&H and kill critters with it. You'll be glad you did! |
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like the previous post said - the mighty 375 is good to go on the Wapiti.
it's fairly versatile to load light with 230gr bb's for deer (or just about anything frankly). i've got two Winchesters - one a couple of years old that shoots great but is a bit heavy for hunting much. my "hunting" H&H is a post-64 winchester that i had the barrel cut back to 20-inches and its a whole lot easier to move and carry in the woods. Been loading 260gr Noslers and they shoot good. everybody should have at least one good 375 H&H... |
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I did it, I placed and order for a CZ 550 American in 375 H&H. I should be here in 10 days or two weeks. I piced up some ammo and brass last week. I should be good to go when it gets here.
awesome....be sure to post pics! speaking of brass and ammo, anybody got any good handloads for the H&H they care to share? i've been loading some 300gr Noslers over 62gr of VV N150 and getting very good results. fired a 3-shot group last weekend with it that was right at 1/2-inch at 100 yards. i did step-ups with 1gr increments from 57grains. from 57 up to 61 grains, most groups were at or just slightly over an inch. when i stepped up to 63 grains, it opened up to about 2-inches so i think somewhere beween 60-62grains is the sweet spot for my rifle. 65grains is the max load per my VV manual. i want to try some 5 and 10-shot groups with the 62gr load out to 200 (and further) and seehow it performs. my H&H is a Win70 that i've cut the barrel back to 20-inches and i use a 3x9 scope. i went thru a box of 260 Noslers and the best i could do was about 1.5 inches so i think the 300gr Nosler performs better in my rifle. |
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I did it, I placed and order for a CZ 550 American in 375 H&H. I should be here in 10 days or two weeks. I piced up some ammo and brass last week. I should be good to go when it gets here. Put up some pictures when she arrives. I don't know how to post pics  But I did get my rifle last night and I'm very pleased.
I found AccuBond 375 260 gr bullets on sale! I ordered 5 boxes and bet they will go fast at this price. 
http://www.shootersproshop.com/index.php?p=11&b=8&s=393&t=AccuBond |
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I hope you like the rifle.
A lot of people assume that anything larger than necessary is a bad thing. It is, only if you mind the weight and/or recoil of the rifle. Three weeks ago, I took a 9’-2” brown bear, who died in about 1.5 seconds, with my .375 Wby: 
I know some think it's odd, but I love this rifle, and have become so comfortable with it during the last seven months, that I may use it on a lot of medium-to-large game. The recoil just doesn't bother me anymore. It took me almost a year and about 250 rounds to get that way. I was surprised in mid-August when I had (when practicing loading the first round from a bolt closed on an empty chamber) gotten distracted by another inquiring range shooter and forgotten that I had not loaded a round when firing one of the shots during a fairly-long range session. The rifle surprisingly (to me) went only "click," and, even more surprisingly, I was still looking at the bullseye. The 260gr AB load is even milder and has great down-range numbers––both in terms of drop and retained velocity. It almost rivals my best .340 Wby loads. And, as much as I like my .340 Wby Accumark and Rem 700 BDL in .300 Win Mag, I have become so comfortable with the .375 Wby DGR, that I have a hard time wanting to carry anything else in my planned Virginia and W. Virginia deer and black bear hunts this fall. FWIW, the Nosler factory ammo with 260gr ABs shoots wonders out the 24" barrel on my .375 Wby DGR. My NP groups generally ranged from 3/4" to 1-1/2". My 260gr AB groups ranged from 1/2" to 1". It almost made me want to switch from the Wby factory 300gr NPs for my September AK hunt. But I figured that the heavier NPs would be better for brown bear. If the 260gr ABs shoot well in your .375 H&H, they ought to make an awesome elk bullet: flat shooting at long range and in a much bigger bullet than most elk rifles shoot. It would also work well on deer if you don’t mind the recoil. You need less power in a cartridge for deer and even elk. But, if you don’t mind paying with, or getting used to, the extra recoil, there’s no downside to it. |
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well rather than start my own thead, i thought i would hijack this one for a little bit
just wanted to get the 375 HH owners thoughts on using 235 gr Barnes X bullet on a cow elk any reason i shouldnt? You can't killl anything too dead. I've been eyeing the 375 Ruger Alaskan for a while, or thinking of building one on a spare M70 action I have. |
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well rather than start my own thead, i thought i would hijack this one for a little bit
just wanted to get the 375 HH owners thoughts on using 235 gr Barnes X bullet on a cow elk any reason i shouldnt? I can't thing of any good argument against doing so. I actually bought some to work up a load for my .375 RUMs. But, the 300 grain Nosler Partitions have done so well that I never got around to it. I just took an elk cow last week in Colorado with one of my .375s. One shot through the heart at 230 yards. She took one step and fell DRT. That makes three elk tags filled with that rifle: two bulls and a cow. I originally bought the rifle because I planned to go to Alaska and hunt bear. I wanted to take a tried and proven rifle for that, so I used it first for elk. Edited because I can't schpel. |
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Like most here, I sold a rifle that I shouldn't have. It was a Pre 64 Winchester in 375 H&H. The recoil in a well stocked rifle is greatly reduced by design. The Pre-64 was such a rifle. It was very comfortable to shoot. In subsequent years, I tried (in 375) a Sako, Rem 700, Ruger #1, modern Winchest 70, Mauser, etc. I never found a rifle that felt as comfortable as the Pre-64, until I purchased a Steyr Model "S". It is very close to the feel of the old Winchester.
I was hunting in Northern Montana with my Pre-64. We found a herd of large Muley's and I could not see the antlers because of the distance. I had open sights and my friend had a scope. He found the Muley with the largest rack and relayed the information to me. I drew a bead on the back of the Muley, as they were on a steep slope and their backs were exposed to us. We didn't have range finders back in the day, but suppose the distance was around 300 yards, as I can make out antlers, when it's around 200-250 yards. I was shooting a 270 soft point from a tree limb rest. When I released the 4000 foot pounds of energy, the side of the mountain looked as if a small exposion had gone off from underneath the Muley. There was no snow on the ground, only shale and dirt. I thought I had missed. Much to my amazement, ole Muley started tumbling down the hill, for about 200 yards. When we met up with the large Muley, we started the process of skinning it and cleaning it out. From evidentary examination the 270 mass of lead had entered the back, between the shoulder blades and exited the chest cavity hitting the rock and dirt causing the large cloud of dust. The chest cavity was red jelly and I have no doubt the Muley was dead before it started rolling down said hill. The 375 H&H, depending on fit and form, can accompany me on any hunt, anywhere. Great rifle. |
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The 375 H&H, depending on fit and form, can accompany me on any hunt, anywhere. Great rifle.
amen to that. i feel the same way. my "beater" post-64 Model 70 suits me quite well thank you. had the barrel cut back to 20-inches and it shoots less than an inch groups with 300gr Noslers over 62gr of N150. |
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It's just fine to use a .375 H&H over in Africa for 50 pound impala and even smaller duikers. Yet the thought of using one here on 400-600 pound elk is "too much gun". DO agree though that the .338 Win Mag is a heck of an idea as well!!
I bought a Win M-70 Safari grade back in 1996 or 97. Started using it on elk and deer as I wanted to use it on RSA in 1998. All I shot were 300 gr Nosler partitions at 2450 fps. Shot a spike elk at 90 yds, a 5x5 good sized bull at 300yds, another 6x6 mature bull at 225 yds. All one shoot kills. And I think a cow thrown iin for good measure...though she may have been shot with a .300 H&H...forget the exact details. Also shot three mule deer does...but with Lyman cast slugs at a mere 2000 fps. Took the .375 to RSA in 1998 and 2000. Shot a buch of game; blue wildebeest, a big gemsbok, waterbuck, 2 impala, 2 greater kudu, warthog and a very nice nyala. ALL one shot kills with zero drama. I'd say use one if you wish. I surely use smaller rifles here in MT for my deer and elk...use a .280 Rem most of the time, or my .338-06 . But the three seven five will do it ALL just fine. Less meat loss due to high velocity bullet framentation than most other rds. Trajectory very similar to a .30-06 at the longer ranges. I've used mine on game out to 350 lasered yds. KNOW the drop...raise the reqd amount...hit and KILL the anaimal...NOT rocket science. Are there LIGHTER carrying and lighter recoiling game rifles for NA ?? Sure. But no law against wanting a .375 and wanting to USE it here either. FN in MT |
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since on topic of the H&H....i'm in the market for a new scope for mine....any opinions on brands for a decent low to mid power scope tha has LOTS of eye relief? iv heard the nikon omegas have great eye relief. i have an older luepold fixed 6 on my ruger #1, and still wish i had more eye relief |
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since on topic of the H&H....i'm in the market for a new scope for mine....any opinions on brands for a decent low to mid power scope tha has LOTS of eye relief? I went with a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5x20 for my Ruger No. 1 .416 Rigby. It gives me plenty of eye relief even when set to 5x and shooting from the bench. I bought it used on E-Bay about 9 years ago for a song. |
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I went with the 375 H&H and have had no regrets. There is not such thing as over-gunned. I have been so satisfied with the 375 H&H, I use it for deer now. I have taken a 300+ yrd shot on the south end of a north facing Mule deer (Texas heart shot) with complete penitration/bullet exit, DRT!
In my experience, it actually ruins less meat than the 30-06, 270, and 25-06. Ballistically, the 375 H&H is similar to your 308/30-06 but with 300 bullets. Good Luck 320pf Quoted:
I've got a good collection of CZ rifles, 22, 221,223, and '06, pluss a couple of Remchesters I'm strongly thinking of adding a 375H&H to the litter. The reason being is that I'm looking at retirement in the 7-10 years and want to have my hunting equipment well rounded out while I'm still working. Is anyone using a 375 on deer, elk, or caribou? My plan is to go to Labador to hunt caribou. |
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well rather than start my own thead, i thought i would hijack this one for a little bit
just wanted to get the 375 HH owners thoughts on using 235 gr Barnes X bullet on a cow elk any reason i shouldnt? well thought i would provide a little update i got my cow yesterday morning. shot was about 350 yards. we found the bullet in her esophagus. While she didnt take another step, i wonder why the bullet didnt open up more than it did. any thoughts? 
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well rather than start my own thead, i thought i would hijack this one for a little bit
just wanted to get the 375 HH owners thoughts on using 235 gr Barnes X bullet on a cow elk any reason i shouldnt? well thought i would provide a little update i got my cow yesterday morning. shot was about 350 yards. we found the bullet in her esophagus. While she didnt take another step, i wonder why the bullet didnt open up more than it did. any thoughts? http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/jeepjustin2002/imagejpeg_2_2.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/jeepjustin2002/IMG_3262.jpg Velocity. On an Alaskan hunting site they have noticed any full copper bullets have a hard time opening up when the get under a certain velocity. Thats my best guess. 
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well rather than start my own thead, i thought i would hijack this one for a little bit
just wanted to get the 375 HH owners thoughts on using 235 gr Barnes X bullet on a cow elk any reason i shouldnt? well thought i would provide a little update i got my cow yesterday morning. shot was about 350 yards. we found the bullet in her esophagus. While she didnt take another step, i wonder why the bullet didnt open up more than it did. any thoughts? http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/jeepjustin2002/imagejpeg_2_2.jpg http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/jeepjustin2002/IMG_3262.jpg Velocity. On an Alaskan hunting site they have noticed any full copper bullets have a hard time opening up when the get under a certain velocity. Thats my best guess. I agree. Check with Barnes to be sure, but I think 1800 fps is required to initiate expansion. From your description of the shot and the picture of the bullet I'd say the bullet performed as engineered. IMHO the great feature of homogeneous / bonded bullets is that they will hold together at close range high velocity impacts yet still expand ( at least somewhat ) at extended ranges. In the field, 350 yards is a fairly long shot. Good job! |
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I shot a big buck with my 375. It didn't blow the deer up or anything; the results were about the same as what happens with a 30-06.
The biggest downside is the weight of the 375 or I'd use it more; it weighs 2.4 pounds more than my 30-06. The recoil is not bad and the trajectory is reasonable, just about the same as a 30-06 with 180 grain bullets. |
I picked up my first .375 last month, it just shipped yesterday. I can't wait to get it to the range. Since everyone is posting pics, I thought that I'd put mine up:
Winchester Mod 70 Classic in .375, 24" stainless. Topped with a Zeiss on quick release mounts, trigger job, laminated stock, aluminum pillared and glass bedded. As for using it on N. American game, I intend to use it to hunt boar & deer this year. I'd like to go Elk hunting and maybe moose or bear later. I just bought some 235gr Barnes X from DoubleTap, they are at a smoking 3100 fps; I think I'll reload some TSX 235 grainers at a more moderate velocity for my "deer" round. The 235s at 3100 should do wonders on the boars LOL. I also saw a good deal on ammo at Cheaper Than Dirt, I'm going to post it on the ammo board as well but they're advertising 285 gr Grand Slam bullets pushing 2634 fps for $35.79 a box. That's the cheapest I've seen .375 ammo anywhere. Ammo .375 H&H BVAC Grand Slam 285 Grain 20 Round Box 2634 fjp I did a calculation to load .375 and found that my first box (price of brass) would run about $30 a box and subsequent boxes about $20. Well, rather than buy the brass and load the first round I thought I'd give a few boxes of these a try and then reload them with some lighter 235 TSX... |
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I just bought some 235gr Barnes X from DoubleTap, they are at a smoking 3100 fps
wow...that is a smoking bb for sure! How did the Grand Slam bullets do for ya? Are Nosler 300gr AccuBonds a good elk bullet? i'm getting great groups with them under 62gr of VV N150. the VV manual lists 57grs as min (2133fps) and 65gr as max (2382fps) and although i havent chronographed my MV, i'm guessing its about 2200fps since my barrel is 20-inches. its not a punishing load recoil wise, and when zeroed at 100, i get about a 2-inch drop at 150 and about 6-inch drop at 200. think that'll put one down? Elk season is just around the corner.... 
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