Posted: 5/27/2013 7:25:57 AM EDT
looking at purchasing family farm with this barn...
interior is much better, stalls, hayloft, stairs all in good condition. I am green as a gord on a farm. Help please. _____________________________________________________________________________________ UPDATE 6/2 Went out today, pics below, I was there in the rain...there is 1 leak in the tin roof-1. there are a few boards that need to be replaced in the loft, the owner said that the old man down the street played b-ball in the loft as a boy-he's 82 now. I assume the slits ate there to throw hay down to the livestock. ( leaning toward Boer goats- if I hotwire the fence is the fence gtg?) 
This post wil need some help 
boy up the road broke this one with haybaler 
wired
stalls 
back entry 
mine to the tree line 
were there stalls on this side? 
stairs in stall 1 
Loft 
the front 
the back
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I'd start with the roof...going to be up to your insurance company about fixing it should a strong wind go by.
that siding from this shot appears to need replacement..THAT"s gonna be expensive how ever you do it.. those big old hay barns on the interior always seem to be very solid unless hays been left to rot in them.. SOME never painted the barn as the taxman would come by and call it an improvement and raise property taxes..some were just too dirt poor to buy the iron oxide and milk.. |
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I will get more pics if I know what to take pics of start by taking pictures from the bottom up. said another way, there is no point putting a new roof on a structure that does not have fundamental structural integrity. is there a 2 or 3 course perimeter block foundation or is the barn simply supported by poles? has the soil migrated over the top of the blocks? are the corner columns rotted or wet at the bottom? are the interior supporting columns rotted or wet at the bottom? is there any evidence of termites in the columns (telltale mud "highways")? what about powder post beetles (telltale holes about the diameter or a pencil tip)? how racked are the joists and beams? ar-jedi |
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Dismantle it, paletize it and sell it for $$$ to one of the mills that specializes in selling "reclaimed lumber" to PYVs. Take the proceeds and put up a nice new steel barn building. What he said. 
Lotsa of old barns out there that are beautiful but not worth the money to fix up. 
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Dismantling the 115-year-old barn is definitely last on my options. I will try to get pics of the aforementioned items. It will be later this week. I understand the desire to preserve it. Just do the math carefully to compare what it will cost to properly repair vs. what you would get selling it to a "reclaimed lumber" mill. |
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nice work! ps i have OCD. could you PLEASE stick a brick under the left side of the steps? the whole operation is nicely square and plumb, except the steps. it's killing me. 
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well by golly |
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well by golly Impressive for sure, but what was the cost breakdown? The barn you're looking at also appears to be larger. |
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nice work! ps i have OCD. could you PLEASE stick a brick under the left side of the steps? the whole operation is nicely square and plumb, except the steps. it's killing me.
Don't worry, that pic is right after the front was finished. Had just slid the steps back so I could get in. They have been leveled since then. |
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well by golly Impressive for sure, but what was the cost breakdown? The barn you're looking at also appears to be larger. I have $5,000 in moving and setting it back up. $6,000 in re-doing the outside. It is 20 by 40 2 story. If the underlying structure isn't is good shape,then it probably isn't worth trying. |
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well by golly Impressive for sure, but what was the cost breakdown? The barn you're looking at also appears to be larger. I have $5,000 in moving and setting it back up. $6,000 in re-doing the outside. It is 20 by 40 2 story. If the underlying structure isn't is good shape,then it probably isn't worth trying. For comparison a 30' x 40' x 12' high steel building kit is about $9k + concrete: http://www.muellerinc.com/steel-buildings/building-types/standard-series Given that the OP's barn not only has badly weathered siding and roof, it also seems to be out of level and plumb in many areas, it would seem at a minimum it also needs the foundation / footings redone. Dismanteling and selling as reclaimed lumber is likely to generate much of the funds for a new steel barn of comparable size, and be less expensive end state than rehabilitating the antique barn. |
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Just went through this process. There are places online you can list your barn for sale.
However, the likelihood of someone paying $$ for an old barn depends on the type of wood used in constructing it. Hardwoods, including American chestnut, might draw interest. Softwoods, not so much. Also, there are a lot of guys that want to pick through the beams and such, and leave the rest for you to clean up. In the end, I went with an insured salvage guy who demolished the barn, knocked down the concrete silo, burnt up the wood, salvaged the metal, and leveled the site. He also took care of all the permitting, etc. Wasn't cheap, but he did a good job with no hassle, which was what I wanted. I had some lookie-loos for the barn before we took it down, but it was constructed of beech and hemlock, which was of little value to the "old barn wood" reclaimers, and nobody wanted to deal with the silo. Doc H. |
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Dismantling the 115-year-old barn is definitely last on my options. I will try to get pics of the aforementioned items. It will be later this week. I understand the desire to preserve it. Just do the math carefully to compare what it will cost to properly repair vs. what you would get selling it to a "reclaimed lumber" mill. This. Seriously. At least get estimates and compare the cost. It's cool to have, but if someone is willing to give you a pile of money for what will become useful interior furnishings for someone else, and you can put up a modern, maintenance free structure ... weigh the cool factor carefully. Or, if there are Amish in your area, they might buy it and dismantle it themselves for enough to put up a modern steel barn. A modern steel barn which will require minimal maintenance for the next 50 years. If you do keep it, AR Jedi has covered the suggestions. Roof leaks will destroy the whole thing fast. Water intrusion at the sides will destroy post integrity fast. If wind has racked it at all, it may continue to rack until it falls over. |
| I see nothing level or plumb in those pics, virtually nothing qualifying as a foundation, 101% of exterior wood needing replacing, many interior pieces damaged, improperly framed, etc. For comparison a 30' x 40' x 12' high steel building kit is about $9k + concrete: http://www.muellerinc.com/steel-buildings/building-types/standard-series If you go dirt floor, it's just concrete sonotube piers and minimal cost... |
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look honestly you and everyone else knows that thing is a problem waiting to happen, if you want to maintain it in its current form then you're going to need to build a sub structure to support it, that's going to cost a bit of dough to architect and build, but you seem hell bent on keeping the thing up.
Good luck, but the risk certainly outways the award in my opinion. Be safe |