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2/18/2008 5:07:05 PM EDT
I am looking to create a first aid kit to take to the range and/or any classes that I take in the future. I would like something that will cover any accidents/injuries that might occur while shooting that would help until help arrives. Can you guys help me create a kit that could be kept on a vest or in a pouch that would fit my needs?
2/18/2008 5:17:36 PM EDT
[#1]
tourniquet
quick clot
IZZY bandage (compression pad with guaze/ace bandage works too)
possibly even a maxi pad for absorbing up blood or as a compression pad

1 per person there and a cell phone to call 911.  That is the very least you'll need.
2/18/2008 5:18:39 PM EDT
[#2]
Check out Cabela's if you are interested in a ready made outfit rather than assembling your own. These kits have supplies specifically for gunshot wounds.


www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0025093517322a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&No=18&noImage=0&Ntt=first+aid&Ntk=Products&QueryText=first+aid&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&Nty=1


I don't have any experience with these kits but I have been thinking about buying one.
2/18/2008 5:41:29 PM EDT
[#3]
4x4 or 5x9
Trauma pad (large dressing)
2" tape
tourniquet
petrolatum gauze triangle bandage
gloves (incase your fixn somebody else)

Edit to add:  Quik-Clot

I keep a larger jump kit in my truck (I work for an ambulance company and am a FF)

Trauma Pouch
6- 4x4
3- 5x9
2- petroleum gauze bandages
2- rolls of kerlex
2- triangle bandages
2- trauma shears
1- trauma dressing
1- pair of sterile gloves
2- small sharps containers
2- co-flex/coban (different brand names)

Main Pouch
1- 1", 2", 3" tape
20- ammonia inhalants
20- alcohol prep pads
12- Betadine swabs
2- bulb syringes
1- Insta-Glucose
1- thermometer with covers
1- penlight
1- bite stick
1- Burn sheet
1- hot pack
1- cold pack
2- ipecac syrup (makes you puke)
1- activated charcoal
3- CPR masks

Center  
1- SAM splint
6- Bio hazard bags
1- box of X-Large Nitrile gloves (100)
1- Glucometer
?- alot of lancets, test strips and your average band-aid

End Pouches
Blood Pressure cuffs (adult, fat adult, and peds.)
Stethoscope


I know this is larger than you want but it might help you out to choose stuff.  This is the same kit the ALS trucks have minus Intubation stuff and an IV start kit.

Pick your gear with your "mission".  If your going shooting with some young kids, you probly wont need to be checking their blood sugar.  However if your shooting with an obese diabetic person.... it might be something you want.

Hope it helps
2/18/2008 5:42:57 PM EDT
[#4]
If you are looking for something in case of gunshot wounds then your gear should focus on massive bleeding that way you don't have extra crap that too often creeps its way into kits.  
1.    Tourniquet - best piece of equipment you can have hands down
2.    Hemostatic agent - Celox is my choice (long explanation but I have tried all the others too)
3.    Israeli bandages
4.    compressed gauze - many uses but mostly needed in conjunction with hemostatic agent
5.    tampon - it can be inserted into wound
6.    Chest seal (there are various types)

If you are in an area where EMS has extended ETA's then consider expanding your kit to include basic equipment for airway and circulation.  A really good site for equipment is www.narescue.com.  They are expensive but their products are well thought.
2/18/2008 7:21:49 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Check out Cabela's if you are interested in a ready made outfit rather than assembling your own. These kits have supplies specifically for gunshot wounds.


www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0025093517322a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&No=18&noImage=0&Ntt=first+aid&Ntk=Products&QueryText=first+aid&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&Nty=1


I don't have any experience with these kits but I have been thinking about buying one.


link was busted... checked out their site really only found adventure medical brand kits, though(aside from a neat skin stapler)...

if your looking for more of a blow out kit, or ventilated operators kit try this...
V.O.K./B.O.K.

if you're looking for components check these sites...
cav arms, more b.o.k.s

best glide, kits and components

chinook medical, lots of stuff

PMI, lots of stuff, more extensive components

equiped to survive medical group, lots of reviews information and links to different kits

minimus, single dose meds, etc...

one source tactical, tac medicine

diamondback tactical, tac med equipment

michigan militia medic, how too build personal, squad, and company size med kits

medical discussion group

danish tac med pda

danish tac/op medical

ARFCOM, outdoors discusion forum first aid thread
2/18/2008 9:38:13 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
tourniquet
quick clot
IZZY bandage (compression pad with guaze/ace bandage works too)
possibly even a maxi pad for absorbing up blood or as a compression pad

1 per person there and a cell phone to call 911.  That is the very least you'll need.


NO NO NO!
Quick clot is out, too many problems. Even the Army says only after a tourniquit fails now. Just dont use the $hit, period!
Tourniquets......I have spent countless hours unteaching this BS.  Unless it's a total amputation, don't use a tourniquit, EVER! First off it's most likely not indicated, second, you have doomed the limb to amputation if it's done right, third, they are never done right. ever! 20 some odd years as a paramedic and I have neer seen a tourniquet applied in the correct manor, the saving grace to that is we can take it off and save the limb. People see a little blood and panic and go for the heavy duty stuff. BS! Work with the basics and you can stop the flow every time. Direct pressure, compression and elevation. If that fails, pressure points.
"hands down" my frikkin ass. Worst piece of FA equipment out there. I forever curse the boy scouts for teaching this to everyone. Never use a tourniquit unless the limb is gone then the bleeding will have slowed anyway.
First rule of medicine is do no harm, tourniquits HARM....

Here is a list:
one roller gauze
hand full of 4X4s
tape
SAM splint
couple of bandaids
most important is TRAINING, learn what to do and you won't feel the need for a bunch of usless BS like tampons, maxi pads and tourniquits.
2/18/2008 9:40:45 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
4x4 or 5x9
Trauma pad (large dressing)
2" tape
tourniquet
petrolatum gauze triangle bandage
gloves (incase your fixn somebody else)

Edit to add:  Quik-Clot

I keep a larger jump kit in my truck (I work for an ambulance company and am a FF)

Trauma Pouch
6- 4x4
3- 5x9
2- petroleum gauze bandages
2- rolls of kerlex
2- triangle bandages
2- trauma shears
1- trauma dressing
1- pair of sterile gloves
2- small sharps containers
2- co-flex/coban (different brand names)

Main Pouch
1- 1", 2", 3" tape
20- ammonia inhalants
20- alcohol prep pads
12- Betadine swabs
2- bulb syringes
1- Insta-Glucose
1- thermometer with covers
1- penlight
1- bite stick
1- Burn sheet
1- hot pack
1- cold pack
2- ipecac syrup (makes you puke)
1- activated charcoal
3- CPR masks

Center  
1- SAM splint
6- Bio hazard bags
1- box of X-Large Nitrile gloves (100)
1- Glucometer
?- alot of lancets, test strips and your average band-aid

End Pouches
Blood Pressure cuffs (adult, fat adult, and peds.)
Stethoscope


I know this is larger than you want but it might help you out to choose stuff.  This is the same kit the ALS trucks have minus Intubation stuff and an IV start kit.

Pick your gear with your "mission".  If your going shooting with some young kids, you probly wont need to be checking their blood sugar.  However if your shooting with an obese diabetic person.... it might be something you want.

Hope it helps


When I was a young EMT ( back when no one had heard of EMT) a wise old medic told me that the more he learned, the less he carried....I have found this to be very true.