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1/12/2017 11:02:57 AM EDT
So I'm watching an old "Burn Notice" and we have all seen this on TV......a guy getting a bullet removed not in a hospital, not by a Dr.   No anesthesia.

So I'm thinking, why wouldn't you throw down a bunch of shots to help with pain management.   Now before anyone answers, how many here have had a ton of drinks and felt "no pain".  I have.

Years ago I was mtn biking in Utah and broke my collarbone.  had to walk and roll my bike for 2 hours before we got back to the car.  Hurt like heck, but not agony.  Anyway, when I got to the car I sucked down 4 beers in minutes and I swear the pain was gone.  Now I know that cutting out a bullet (or cutting out anything) is 100X more painful than a broken collarbone, but wouldn't alcohol help when you are in a SHTF situation and you have no access to a hospital?
1/12/2017 11:27:01 AM EDT
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It's a blood thinner?
1/12/2017 11:50:10 AM EDT
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OK, maybe that is a good point.   I have no knowledge on the subject of pain management when doing SHTF cutting into the body.

I guess I am looking at this as a matter of "this is going to be brutally painful, I'd rather have a hell of a buzz".  I can see old saw bones Docs not having time to liquor up their patent when on the war field.  But has alcohol been used successfully as a pain suppressant when nothing else is around?
1/12/2017 12:07:02 PM EDT
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OK, maybe that is a good point.   I have no knowledge on the subject of pain management when doing SHTF cutting into the body.

I guess I am looking at this as a matter of "this is going to be brutally painful, I'd rather have a hell of a buzz".  I can see old saw bones Docs not having time to liquor up their patent when on the war field.  But has alcohol been used successfully as a pain suppressant when nothing else is around?
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It was used historically. Remember the cowboy movies and whiskey? But we have better stuff now.

Alcohol depresses the CNS and causes vomiting, which is a bad thing when you're unconscious.
1/12/2017 10:01:27 PM EDT
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Due to a couple of recent 'medical incidents' (specifically acute appendicitis with follow up procedures), pain management (at least from the medical side) was a big issue.  Fortunately for me, I have a very high pain tolerance level and did not take anything (mostly): (opioids both 'natural' or synthetic tends to 'bind' me up).  Having said that, every time they asked my pain level, I always said, "very high" and voila! prescription for heavy duty medication.  We now have a very (I mean very, very) good stock of medication for emergency issues (among other very necessary medications).  As an aside, combined with my past military training and the partners RN (emergency room) experience we have put together over the years enough high grade medical ware to do basic surgery out here in the sticks.  Preparing takes time, money, a well thought out plan and the willingness (not to mention taking advantage of opportunities when they present themselves) to do what is necessary for the future.  Just my .02 worth .................
1/12/2017 10:05:26 PM EDT
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I have been every stage of drunk at one point or another and outside of blacked out unconscious I don't see how I wouldn't have felt a bullet wound.

Also, the blood thinning property of the alcohol might not be that beneficial.
1/13/2017 1:56:39 AM EDT
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I have been every stage of drunk at one point or another and outside of blacked out unconscious I don't see how I wouldn't have felt a bullet wound.

Also, the blood thinning property of the alcohol might not be that beneficial.
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Nothing better than vodka and whiskey to help clean wounds.
1/13/2017 12:35:14 PM EDT
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Better to have it than need it and not have it. Some 190 proof PGA could be a great barter item, fire starter, disinfectant, or party starter. IT worked wonders for me at college parties back in the day.
1/13/2017 1:19:46 PM EDT
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Alcohol is not a very good anesthetic, but it's better than nothing. People used it for centuries before ether, nitrous and chloroform were discovered.

It is not, however, a blood thinner as many people have been told.
1/13/2017 2:49:31 PM EDT
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Nothing better than vodka and whiskey to help clean wounds.
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Alcohol is mediocre at best as a disinfectant. If it's all you have, then you have no choice. However, it will kill still-living tissue, will do fuckall against fungi, and many bacteria and archaea- some infectious- are unaffected. Irrigating a wound with sterile water is a more efficacious alternative. Bleach is leagues better for wiping down surfaces, plus it smells great.

As an anti-inflammatory, it's hard to beat. As a pain killer, it works fairly well, but the dosage needs to be high, and the blood-thinning property makes it highly undesirable for any tissue trauma.