Posted: 11/20/2016 10:23:39 PM EDT
| It is a nice light and base, but I am fearful of fire in my house, particularly unsupervised in my children's rooms. Perhaps I am not being logical, but for 25 years I recovered house fire victims (among many other types of decedents) to change my opinion. I have led lanterns with eneloops for backup lighting if needed. |
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It is a nice light and base, but I am fearful of fire in my house, particularly unsupervised in my children's rooms. Perhaps I am not being logical, but for 25 years I recovered house fire victims (among many other types of decedents) to change my opinion. I have led lanterns with eneloops for backup lighting if needed. We live with fire daily so we don't worry about it much. These candles go out pretty easy when dumped because the entire candle liquefies and there is only a fraction of an ounce of fuel. You can knock over the chimney and not have the base tip. |
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Any particular reason you use these every night? Seems like it would cost several times what it would be to run a small LED plus the added fire risk. There is no fire risk at all. It adds a tiny bit of heat to the room, gives a pleasant warm glow, and my wife sleeps better with one burning. It's really a win all around. I can buy a year's worth for $12. I'm having several more made for the kids room (youngest is 16) for power outage or just to enjoy. I set the spot they sit so they won't get bothered. I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. |
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I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. rationalizing stupidity will not get you through life and defiantly not through a "shtf" while chances are small, some people know better. put your little tea light on the nightstand where some keep nail polish remover- now tip over the nightstand. load a round in a gun, point at your head with safety on, pull trigger. Oh see I can create illogical arguments as well when you appeal to probability. your little light is nice, but thats it |
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There is no fire risk at all. It adds a tiny bit of heat to the room, gives a pleasant warm glow, and my wife sleeps better with one burning. It's really a win all around. I can buy a year's worth for $12. I'm having several more made for the kids room (youngest is 16) for power outage or just to enjoy. I set the spot they sit so they won't get bothered. I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. Quoted:
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Any particular reason you use these every night? Seems like it would cost several times what it would be to run a small LED plus the added fire risk. There is no fire risk at all. It adds a tiny bit of heat to the room, gives a pleasant warm glow, and my wife sleeps better with one burning. It's really a win all around. I can buy a year's worth for $12. I'm having several more made for the kids room (youngest is 16) for power outage or just to enjoy. I set the spot they sit so they won't get bothered. I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. If you think there is "no fire risk at all" from an unattended burning tea light, I don't think you're using your imagination enough. It could fall while lit and roll someplace while still lit. Something could fall into the top of the glass and ignite. And so on. Is the risk relatively small? I guess so. But it's also completely unnecessary. ETA: what might worry me more than the risk is you not perceiving the risk. Familiarity breeds contempt. |
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rationalizing stupidity will not get you through life and defiantly not through a "shtf" while chances are small, some people know better. put your little tea light on the nightstand where some keep nail polish remover- now tip over the nightstand. load a round in a gun, point at your head with safety on, pull trigger. Oh see I can create illogical arguments as well when you appeal to probability. your little light is nice, but thats it Quoted:
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I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. rationalizing stupidity will not get you through life and defiantly not through a "shtf" while chances are small, some people know better. put your little tea light on the nightstand where some keep nail polish remover- now tip over the nightstand. load a round in a gun, point at your head with safety on, pull trigger. Oh see I can create illogical arguments as well when you appeal to probability. your little light is nice, but thats it Go tip over tea candles in various ways and video the results. It will be a boring video. If you feel the need to add open bottles of accelerants go ahead. |
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If you think there is "no fire risk at all" from an unattended burning tea light, I don't think you're using your imagination enough. It could fall while lit and roll someplace while still lit. Something could fall into the top of the glass and ignite. And so on. Is the risk relatively small? I guess so. But it's also completely unnecessary. ETA: what might worry me more than the risk is you not perceiving the risk. Familiarity breeds contempt. Quoted:
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Any particular reason you use these every night? Seems like it would cost several times what it would be to run a small LED plus the added fire risk. There is no fire risk at all. It adds a tiny bit of heat to the room, gives a pleasant warm glow, and my wife sleeps better with one burning. It's really a win all around. I can buy a year's worth for $12. I'm having several more made for the kids room (youngest is 16) for power outage or just to enjoy. I set the spot they sit so they won't get bothered. I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. If you think there is "no fire risk at all" from an unattended burning tea light, I don't think you're using your imagination enough. It could fall while lit and roll someplace while still lit. Something could fall into the top of the glass and ignite. And so on. Is the risk relatively small? I guess so. But it's also completely unnecessary. ETA: what might worry me more than the risk is you not perceiving the risk. Familiarity breeds contempt. It's not contempt if you minimize the risk. We live with fire in our home all the time. Oil lamps get lit in our home almost daily. Oil lamps are far more risky than a single tea candle and they are very, very low risk. No doubt LED's are less risky. No one is disputing that. |
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If you think there is "no fire risk at all" from an unattended burning tea light, I don't think you're using your imagination enough. It could fall while lit and roll someplace while still lit. Something could fall into the top of the glass and ignite. And so on. Is the risk relatively small? I guess so. But it's also completely unnecessary. ETA: what might worry me more than the risk is you not perceiving the risk. Familiarity breeds contempt. Quoted:
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Any particular reason you use these every night? Seems like it would cost several times what it would be to run a small LED plus the added fire risk. There is no fire risk at all. It adds a tiny bit of heat to the room, gives a pleasant warm glow, and my wife sleeps better with one burning. It's really a win all around. I can buy a year's worth for $12. I'm having several more made for the kids room (youngest is 16) for power outage or just to enjoy. I set the spot they sit so they won't get bothered. I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. If you think there is "no fire risk at all" from an unattended burning tea light, I don't think you're using your imagination enough. It could fall while lit and roll someplace while still lit. Something could fall into the top of the glass and ignite. And so on. Is the risk relatively small? I guess so. But it's also completely unnecessary. ETA: what might worry me more than the risk is you not perceiving the risk. Familiarity breeds contempt. The entire fuel supply of the tea candle liquifies while lit after just a few minutes. It can't fall and remain lit and it cannot roll somewhere while lit. You perceive risk without experience to validate that risk. Go try it yourself. Video the results and get back to me. |
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The entire fuel supply of the tea candle liquifies while lit after just a few minutes. It can't fall and remain lit and it cannot roll somewhere while lit. You perceive risk without experience to validate that risk. Go try it yourself. Video the results and get back to me. Quoted:
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Any particular reason you use these every night? Seems like it would cost several times what it would be to run a small LED plus the added fire risk. There is no fire risk at all. It adds a tiny bit of heat to the room, gives a pleasant warm glow, and my wife sleeps better with one burning. It's really a win all around. I can buy a year's worth for $12. I'm having several more made for the kids room (youngest is 16) for power outage or just to enjoy. I set the spot they sit so they won't get bothered. I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. If you think there is "no fire risk at all" from an unattended burning tea light, I don't think you're using your imagination enough. It could fall while lit and roll someplace while still lit. Something could fall into the top of the glass and ignite. And so on. Is the risk relatively small? I guess so. But it's also completely unnecessary. ETA: what might worry me more than the risk is you not perceiving the risk. Familiarity breeds contempt. The entire fuel supply of the tea candle liquifies while lit after just a few minutes. It can't fall and remain lit and it cannot roll somewhere while lit. You perceive risk without experience to validate that risk. Go try it yourself. Video the results and get back to me. You admit that a tealight involves more risk than a LED light, so you know it's not true that "There is no fire risk at all." The risk may be small but the potential harm is literally everything you have, including your life and those of your family, in return for absolutely nothing in my view. |
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You admit that a tealight involves more risk than a LED light, so you know it's not true that "There is no fire risk at all." The risk may be small but the potential harm is literally everything you have, including your life and those of your family, in return for absolutely nothing in my view. Quoted:
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Any particular reason you use these every night? Seems like it would cost several times what it would be to run a small LED plus the added fire risk. There is no fire risk at all. It adds a tiny bit of heat to the room, gives a pleasant warm glow, and my wife sleeps better with one burning. It's really a win all around. I can buy a year's worth for $12. I'm having several more made for the kids room (youngest is 16) for power outage or just to enjoy. I set the spot they sit so they won't get bothered. I think a lot of you guys need to light a tea candle and let it get hot them tip it over on a news paper. If you can get it to stay lit I'll give you a cookie. If you think there is "no fire risk at all" from an unattended burning tea light, I don't think you're using your imagination enough. It could fall while lit and roll someplace while still lit. Something could fall into the top of the glass and ignite. And so on. Is the risk relatively small? I guess so. But it's also completely unnecessary. ETA: what might worry me more than the risk is you not perceiving the risk. Familiarity breeds contempt. The entire fuel supply of the tea candle liquifies while lit after just a few minutes. It can't fall and remain lit and it cannot roll somewhere while lit. You perceive risk without experience to validate that risk. Go try it yourself. Video the results and get back to me. You admit that a tealight involves more risk than a LED light, so you know it's not true that "There is no fire risk at all." The risk may be small but the potential harm is literally everything you have, including your life and those of your family, in return for absolutely nothing in my view. then don't use them......just don't pretend the risk is worth critism of those who realize how tiny it really is. |
well, this escalated quickly.
Personally, I like the design. But c'mon people with everything there is a risk, it's called life. Even a LED light may be used to unintentionally signal a alien space craft orbiting above mistaking it as a attack order.. see I did use my imagination to see how even a LED light can be used in a bad fashion. |
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well, this escalated quickly.
Personally, I like the design. But c'mon people with everything there is a risk, it's called life. Even a LED light may be used to unintentionally signal a alien space craft orbiting above mistaking it as a attack order.. see I did use my imagination to see how even a LED light can be used in a bad fashion. another invalid argument why invite another risk into your life when you have other options??? |
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another invalid argument why invite another risk into your life when you have other options??? Quoted:
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well, this escalated quickly.
Personally, I like the design. But c'mon people with everything there is a risk, it's called life. Even a LED light may be used to unintentionally signal a alien space craft orbiting above mistaking it as a attack order.. see I did use my imagination to see how even a LED light can be used in a bad fashion. another invalid argument why invite another risk into your life when you have other options??? The 1 in 1billion risk is worth the reward. Your argument is to assume more risk than is reality. |
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so you can't argue w/o be illogical and can't accept criticism, how progressive of you This is not your special safe space Quoted:
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then don't use them......just don't pretend the risk is worth critism of those who realize how tiny it really is. so you can't argue w/o be illogical and can't accept criticism, how progressive of you This is not your special safe space Being insulting to someone you disagree with is very conservative of you. |
| When I think of the fire risk, I guess I was thinking more along the line of a child dropping paper or tissue pieces down the lit chimney to see them burn, and continuing to stuff more down to see how high of a fire they could get out of it. I am sure most of your children would not do such a thing, but I am not sure mine wouldn't. For that reason I choose not to use candles more than necessary. I simply do not trust my young children with fire in the house. |
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When I think of the fire risk, I guess I was thinking more along the line of a child dropping paper or tissue pieces down the lit chimney to see them burn, and continuing to stuff more down to see how high of a fire they could get out of it. I am sure most of your children would not do such a thing, but I am not sure mine wouldn't. For that reason I choose not to use candles more than necessary. I simply do not trust my young children with fire in the house. That is a respectable choice. My kids are grown, but I still treat fire with respect. We are smart about what we use and where. |
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I'd sooner concert an LED solar pathway light than burn a candle every night.
Speaking of which, I can't say enough good things about the Luci lights, specifically the Lux model which has a warm incandescent glow. They are fantastic for lighting up a bedroom and have a very good run time per solar charge. We bought 5 of them for between the house and rural cabin and they have all been great. I use one nightly when I surf on my IPad in bed, average use is 40 min or so and I go a week or more between remembering to put it in the window to charge. Never had one give less than full light or out of battery, even in the winter time. The new ones have a battery status button on them as well. |
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Well, I was just stopping in to browse this sub forum, as I do often. Im sure my opinion isnt missed, but this is why I very rarely post.
Jeezy cow folks, its a tea candle. I take a hell of a lot more calculated risks everyday than leaving an enclosed tea candle burning unattended. If its not for you, cool. If you feel its unsafe, sure, say so, but learn when to drop it. I like it, OP. |
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The lantern looks very nice!
There are 1,000,000 things that can go wrong with any scenario that you can envision. If everyone is aware of those possibilities and has accounted for them, there is no issue with using anything. Battery chargers can fail, overheat, spark, and cause a fire just as easily as a random tissue falling into a lantern. Remarkably people used candles for far far far longer than anyone has used electricity to light their entire world... and even with thatch roofs
Put away your tough guy e-muscles and appreciate what the OP has shared. |
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OP some 45 years ago a young buck1911 decided to toast some saltines in his fort in his closest using a small candle when his dog signaled that we had to go defend the backyard from squirrels.
A little while later I hear mom yelling what's burning........ Yes the cracker was on fire among other things I considered highly valuable but were tossed in two shakes by unhappy mother. Never underestimate kids..... That was probably fire number 4 out of 12 before the age of 12. That said I like it and will be looking to add similar but probably won't use nightly. |

well, this escalated quickly.