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3/24/2016 7:57:41 PM EDT
Is this mask with code 5479 on the strap worth $15? Will I be able to get new filters? I am uneducated on gas masks but want to add a useful one in my preps.

3/24/2016 9:38:52 PM EDT
[#1]
It looks like an MSA Millennium but different color.

It looks like it has 40mm NATO threads so any such canister will fit on it. For most protection look for an Organic Vapor, Acid Gas, Chlorine, (there are more) and P100 canister.

Negative Pressure Air Purifying Respirators require a solid fit to work properly and protect you. No facial hair, no leaks. Must have proper oxygen levels. In high heat and high humidity they suck to work in.
3/24/2016 10:36:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Consider a Scott M-98.  Great mask, reasonable price, no problem with filter compatibility or availability.





https://www.botach.com/scott-m98-full-face-piece-gas-masks/
3/24/2016 11:03:00 PM EDT
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My short research shows it might be a msa mcu-2p mask. The seller claims its milsurp but who knows. It is only $15 so in worst case it's a paint mask or costume prop. I wanted to see if anyone here was familiar with it.


3/25/2016 2:32:23 AM EDT
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I believe only the MCU-2P's are labeled US on the top wearer's right, and the size on the wearers left. Looks to me like a size Medium, which is a good fit for the majority of people. There may be a bar code on the wearers right side. Be careful with those masks, some may just be missing from a government inventory sheet. Besides those few differences if I remember right, they are the exact same as the MSA millennium which are the civilian side version. They are easy enough to buy filters for and usually parts can be found. Take a look at in and see if the lens is yellowing, that is an indicator it is getting older due to lens slowly breaking down. As usual, check for damage such as cuts, scratches, damaged valves or sealing surfaces. You don't want a bad seal in the one in a million chance you do have to don it.
3/25/2016 5:21:04 AM EDT
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Is this mask with code 5479 on the strap worth $15? Will I be able to get new filters? I am uneducated on gas masks but want to add a useful one in my preps.

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Looks like standard 40mm canisters and thats good, but its not the only thing that matters in a respirator. Id say hunt for some surplus American, Israeli or British respirators instead.
FerFAL
3/25/2016 7:38:40 AM EDT
[#6]
It is marked US on one side and M on the other in a second picture the seller has. Thanks guys I will be grabbing this today. I will check the seals and valves for wear and separation. It looks like there are repair parts still available for this mask if it damaged.
3/25/2016 10:41:04 AM EDT
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mcu2p was a good mask in the day but, iirc, there have been issues with the face piece separating from the frame with age and abuse.  i would not plan to use it for anything that my life depends on with some thorough testing.
3/26/2016 9:51:24 AM EDT
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It's an MCU2P.  It will take standard C2A1 and M95/96 filters if you want quality filters for it. If your cheap, any standard NATO threaded filters will do, although the roll and crimp in Euro filters is not exactly the same as US NATO threaded 40mm filters. You'll see what I mean if you look at the difference between screwing a C2A1 on there versus a standard NATO.

There is a hood made for that mask but it's semi rare.

Do a function test, check the valves well, test it with banana test oil ampules. Inspect the mask thoroughly, the silicon rubber material tends to hold up better than some of the other mask materials. The cloth straps tend to break a whole helluva lot less than the rubber straps on older Euro/Israeli surplus masks.

We have more than a few of these masks in family preps, along with current C2A1 filters.
3/26/2016 10:21:19 AM EDT
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That is an MCU2P.  We used a shit load of them while I was in the Navy.  I dont think it's current now but definitely worth 15 bucks.  I took one into the tear gas chamber and it definitely worked.  Had one on me for quite a while back in the Sadam WMD days along with atropine and two pan injectors.

There are definitely better masks but that one is definitely good to go IMHO.
3/26/2016 8:05:26 PM EDT
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I picked up the mask today and it is in fantastic condition with almost no yellowing of the lense. It does have one issue that one of the nose vents is missing. Is this a l replaceable / needed part?


Also is this a date code of 2003 manufacture?

3/27/2016 11:59:30 AM EDT
[#11]
you need a nosecup valve for an MSA millennium. i don't see them for sale anywere on a quick check as that mask is long out of service.

that valve prevents fogging of the face piece while your breathing. it's only important if you want to see :)

you could in theory plug/cover the hole as you have one working valve but it was impact efficiency of the mask
3/27/2016 12:57:58 PM EDT
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I wouldn't depend my life on a  $15 gas mask
3/27/2016 12:59:13 PM EDT
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i would, but i know how to maintain and rebuild them. if you don't, then know it's not a good idea.
3/27/2016 1:12:15 PM EDT
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i would, but i know how to maintain and rebuild them. if you don't, then know it's not a good idea.

Ok
My theory is that in life you get what you pay for
3/27/2016 3:40:36 PM EDT
[#15]
I found the parts breakdown. I will call approvedgaasks.com and see if they have the part plus some new seals.

4/1/2016 11:48:19 AM EDT
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It took some digging but it looks like I was able to find all the parts needed to bring this respirator up to snuff.

MSA 10007994 BODY, INLET VALVE, MILLENNIUM
MSA 804822 SEAT,VALVE,NOSECUP,  
MSA 491125 DISC,VALVE,NOSECUP
MSA 10007996 DISC, OUTLET VALVE, MILNM.,RESPONSE/SAFE
MSA 10007979 GASKET, SIDE PORT, MILLENNIUM

$15 mask + $25 in replacement gaskets = $40 for functional MSA respirator

Now I just need to find a few filters.

There is a lot of 40mm ones on eBay and it is really hard to differentiate the good deals from junk. Any Suggestions?
4/1/2016 1:24:22 PM EDT
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It took some digging but it looks like I was able to find all the parts needed to bring this respirator up to snuff.

MSA 10007994 BODY, INLET VALVE, MILLENNIUM
MSA 804822 SEAT,VALVE,NOSECUP,  
MSA 491125 DISC,VALVE,NOSECUP
MSA 10007996 DISC, OUTLET VALVE, MILNM.,RESPONSE/SAFE
MSA 10007979 GASKET, SIDE PORT, MILLENNIUM

$15 mask + $25 in replacement gaskets = $40 for functional MSA respirator

Now I just need to find a few filters.

There is a lot of 40mm ones on eBay and it is really hard to differentiate the good deals from junk. Any Suggestions?
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Ideally C2A1 newest dates you can find, which realistically will likely not be within the last 5 years or so unless you really want to pay out. Avoid the older C2 filters.

Understand that a QUALITY new production filter will likely cost close to what you "have" in the mask.
4/1/2016 2:57:37 PM EDT
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Ideally C2A1 newest dates you can find, which realistically will likely not be within the last 5 years or so unless you really want to pay out. Avoid the older C2 filters.

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I just snagged a pair of sealed C2A1 filters with a 2010 mfg date from eBay for $26. Thank you.
4/4/2016 12:40:52 AM EDT
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Negative Pressure Air Purifying Respirators require a solid fit to work properly and protect you. No facial hair, no leaks.
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FWIW I fit test anywhere from 10-30 APRs a day(MSA Ultra Elite CBRN APRs) and even with a few days growth most guys will readily pass a CNP REDON test. Where I actually see most failures is either a very narrow face, particularly the outer forehead/upper temple or in older wearers with more loose/less elastic skin.
4/4/2016 3:36:50 AM EDT
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You can get the parts directly from MSA for probably much less than approvedgasmasks.
4/4/2016 7:37:44 AM EDT
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FWIW I fit test anywhere from 10-30 APRs a day(MSA Ultra Elite CBRN APRs) and even with a few days growth most guys will readily pass a CNP REDON test. Where I actually see most failures is either a very narrow face, particularly the outer forehead/upper temple or in older wearers with more loose/less elastic skin.
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Negative Pressure Air Purifying Respirators require a solid fit to work properly and protect you. No facial hair, no leaks.


FWIW I fit test anywhere from 10-30 APRs a day(MSA Ultra Elite CBRN APRs) and even with a few days growth most guys will readily pass a CNP REDON test. Where I actually see most failures is either a very narrow face, particularly the outer forehead/upper temple or in older wearers with more loose/less elastic skin.



also newer mask designs are more forgiving in general. plus the mask material itself makes a big difference. the rubber face shield tend to harden over time and even if you can't tell the difference in feel it can make a difference in the seal with older masks.
4/4/2016 9:52:59 AM EDT
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Approved never replied to my email. I called MSA and they referred me to a distributor.
4/4/2016 8:22:42 PM EDT
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Filters came in, these should be good for most applications, correct?
4/4/2016 9:08:05 PM EDT
[#24]
pretty much anything but ammonia.

http://gasmaskandrespirator.wikia.com/wiki/The_C2_and_C2a1_Filter_Canisters
4/4/2016 10:07:02 PM EDT
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Good read, thank you!