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12/14/2015 3:21:01 PM EDT
So I have put some stuff in the DIY Kydex and DIY Leather threads but I have not had any luck finding a DIY Nylon thread. Is there a thread for this?

If not,

I will start one…
So I have been making nylon tactical gear since 2002. I have made a few pieces to see and I have made a ton of stuff for deploying friends. I use to post a lot of this stuff on lightfighter in the Roll Your Own forum but I got tired of people knocking off my designs and after lightfighter got ā€œinsaneā€ about memberships to be able to post pics I decided to stop posting there. The RYO thread is a great place to find supplies and help and how to’s. Anyway here we go.

So I started making nylon stuff because I wanted stuff in Multicam way before it got popular. One of the first vests I made was a soft armor carrier that used the point blank Army panels and SAPI plates. I called this thing the Plate Carrier (original, I know), it has undergone several revisions since this first version.











Version 2 was more refined and was releasable.









Version 2.5 was designed for Dragon Skin Armor and was more refined and releasable.







Version 3 was a dedicated plate carrier with no soft armor inserts. Very minimalist and non-releasable.



Around this time I decided to try my hand at making a version of Crye Precision’s Armor Chassis. I had to make my own soft armor inserts for the one.









Sometime later I made the most current version of the Plate Carrier, version 4. This version incorporated side SAPIs that could be added at any angle and any height. This version was releasable.











Aside from carriers, I have made holsters, leg platforms (some with armor inserts), dog collars and leashes, and a ton of other stuff.









So I am interested in what others have made, let’s get this thread rolling.


12/14/2015 3:36:26 PM EDT
[#1]
I like version 2.5.  Nice work overall!
12/16/2015 10:30:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Impressive.



Had you sewn before?




Or just jumped in feet first?






12/17/2015 2:11:35 AM EDT
[#3]
<<<----Thought this was going to be a thread about using ordinary kitchen chemicals to produce Nylon polymers in a post-apocalyptic world...

Nice stitchin', OP!
12/17/2015 5:27:34 AM EDT
[#4]
Used to hand at the RYO forum.
I do solo/minmalist tarps.

Stuff specifically made to allow a person to always hace shelter/concealment with out bulk/weight.

Some projects go over my standards (multicam) for example weighs more due to piss poor fabric avaiblity. Ex. Is a tarp thats 7oz vs multicam at 13.



12/17/2015 5:31:07 AM EDT
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12/18/2015 12:55:08 AM EDT
[#6]
Impressive. What kind of sewing machine and other equipment do you use for that work.
12/18/2015 1:12:40 AM EDT
[#7]
Updated an old Airsave vest with E-SAPIs.

12/19/2015 10:57:15 AM EDT
[#9]
I have problems with seam allowances and straight lines , so I haven't done anything major yet.  A few little projects.





Modular bandoleer for my bump-in-the-night/walking-the-dog tactical purse.














Modern pistol belt.








An insert for my old Kelty MAP3500 pack.  It went in the hydro pocket and gave the back some structure and allowed me to add pouches as needed.











I think this the only picture of my old Juki that I have at home. It's an old walking foot machine that spends most of its time repairing horse blankets. I'm lucky to have access to a full on tactical nylon sew shop at work for other stuff (bartacks, binding, Gerber cutter for patterns).








CHRIS
 
12/19/2015 6:02:56 PM EDT
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You cant. Its either 1.9(70d) or taffetas/supplexs. That are dwr backed or treated.

Those shown are taslite thats treated with silicone.

Sucks. But it is water proof. Wouldnt use it in monsoons but it works decent enough. The pattern bleeds through which is good in more arid regions if you flip it over. Buddy  in cali says its great in the hills.

The aor2 is naked ripstop thats been treated. Which has zero issues ive found.

Theres a 3-4oz difference between the two and the major difference is bulk.






12/19/2015 7:15:14 PM EDT
[#11]
interesting
12/19/2015 7:24:19 PM EDT
[#12]
Nice.
12/19/2015 10:56:44 PM EDT
[#13]
I build some gear on the side as well.  This is an AK specific rig that has the option of flaps or bungee for retention.

I use a Brother DB755 industrial machine that dates from the 1960s. Runs like a champ(when I do my part that is ).




12/21/2015 2:30:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Guys nice kit....

So someone asked if i had done sewing before I started making this stuff. Honestly nothing more than sewing patches on my uniforms and the occasional restitch of a button or two.

I was very lucky to come by a "free" used Singer 211 166A machine and started off with scraps that I cut from old gear. I was even more lucky to find that there was a whole seller of nylon very near me. Gerald Schwartz Inc. They sell just about everything you will need and they are extremely reasonably priced and helpful.
http://www.geraldschwartzinc.com/

I prefer to drop by their shop but if you are not close, give them a call and speak to Chuck, he is the owner and son of the founder. He has forgotten more about mil-spec and berry compliant nylon, plastic, webbing, etc.. than I will ever know.

As for starting out, well it just takes time a practice. I am more than willing to do a write up how to, but I think you guys can find a lot of information on lightfighter and other web sites. There is also a thread there of where to find materials such as the multicam someone was asking about.

Two words of cation:
1. most places that sell materials, sell them in quantity so plan for a initial expense.
2. The reason I took most of my pictures down from lightfighter was because there are a million Chinese companies looking to rip your ideas off and you have no recourse to stop them or recoup losses. If you try to make this a business, you will have a lot of competition and you will most likely never get a price point that makes your time and hard work worth it. Think about it, why would you buy a kick ass plate carrier from me for $350.00 when you can get a so-so plate carrier from Condor for under $100.00?

Anyway, I only make stuff now for myself and a few deployed friends so I am no longer worried about becoming the next blackhawk. I dont mind posting pictures at this point. If you have questions please feel free to ask them. Better to e-mail me as I am not on AR15.com that often.

Jeff
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12/21/2015 2:34:55 PM EDT
[#15]
Jumped in feet first and learned along the way. Thanks

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12/21/2015 2:36:35 PM EDT
[#16]
That would be cool, especially if it was made from vegetable oil or some other natural source and not too difficult to make. Thanks for the compliment.


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12/21/2015 2:44:26 PM EDT
[#17]
Protus, nice looking tarps. I have a a Etowah Outfitters I got from Ben's Backwoods and I have 2 from  Bushcraft USA. I understand the issues with the different materials and I sympathize. Once I had all the materials for Multicam, the Army switched from woodland to that good awful ACU digital officeflauge. I had to go out a buy all new materials to support orders, when in the end they went with Multicam anyway. Then there is the never ending debate on what color Coyote Tan, Flat Dark Earth, and Ranger Green are....


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Used to hand at the RYO forum.I do solo/minmalist tarps.
Stuff specifically made to allow a person to always hace shelter/concealment with out bulk/weight.
Some projects go over my standards (multicam) for example weighs more due to piss poor fabric avaiblity. Ex. Is a tarp thats 7oz vs multicam at 13.


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12/21/2015 2:49:09 PM EDT
[#18]
My sewing machine is a old and used Singer 211 166A. Its a straight stitch machine.


You will need lots of supplies:






A plan


Other main tools I use are a table mounted hot knife to cut nylon and a hot glue gun


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12/21/2015 2:52:12 PM EDT
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Google is your friend
Try here
http://ripstopbytheroll.com/products/1-1-oz-silnylon-multicam
and here
http://multicampattern.com/multicam_raw_materials/




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12/22/2015 5:42:33 AM EDT
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I've purchased from ripstopbytheroll many times, quite happy with their service and products. Been making vehicle shade / camp awnings and tent flys and a fitted telescope cover.
It's easy to work with, just takes a little practice to get a feel for the right tension on the fabrics and sewing machine. The 'oh it's tough' about silnylon is BS. If you can machine sew at all it's pretty straightforward. The sewing is the tough part.
12/22/2015 7:55:41 AM EDT
[#21]
Hardest part is joining pieces ..shits super slick and will slide around.
But its not impossible.

Havent ordered from ripstop mostly from rockywoods.will check them out.

Other thing is imho guys over think and over build their  stuff.

That all adds weight. And bulk.

Ive handled the bushcraft usa ones and  one other cant recall it  that lots of guys online talk aboutn

I wasnt impressed much by the tie out installs with a single bar tack.

I get the "if it rips out it wont ruin the tarp" bt having worked and used these fabrics for 10-+ years.. thats a bs reason.

Its a time saver...time is money on tarps..

12-18$ add thread..ribbon 1-3$ ..time under one hour if you stay on it.employee cost...

Then charge 40-100-+$






12/23/2015 12:11:13 AM EDT
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  You cant. Its either 1.9(70d) or taffetas/supplexs. That are dwr backed or treated.
Those shown are taslite thats treated with silicone.
Sucks. But it is water proof. Wouldnt use it in monsoons but it works decent enough. The pattern bleeds through which is good in more arid regions if you flip it over. Buddy  in cali says its great in the hills.
The aor2 is naked ripstop thats been treated. Which has zero issues ive found.
Theres a 3-4oz difference between the two and the major difference is bulk.




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  You cant. Its either 1.9(70d) or taffetas/supplexs. That are dwr backed or treated.
Those shown are taslite thats treated with silicone.
Sucks. But it is water proof. Wouldnt use it in monsoons but it works decent enough. The pattern bleeds through which is good in more arid regions if you flip it over. Buddy  in cali says its great in the hills.
The aor2 is naked ripstop thats been treated. Which has zero issues ive found.
Theres a 3-4oz difference between the two and the major difference is bulk.





12/23/2015 8:58:04 AM EDT
[#23]
Rgr. Next order ill look. I just got my ship of aor2 and mc as above. So until i move those im stuck lol .
Thx.
12/23/2015 12:03:42 PM EDT
[#24]
I used Protus' YouTube video several years ago to make my first one. It's held up on somewhere between 8-12 uses. I am looking to build a larger one (.my little ones are no as little as they used to be.