Posted: 12/21/2013 9:56:03 AM EDT
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Which is better and why? I'm old school & like the exterior pockets on the exterior framed packs, but am thinking the internal frames are more comfortable.
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Yeah, the pocket thing is a non-starter. The drawbacks of the old internal frames have long since been addressed - no need for an external frame unless you need it for attachment of odd / bulky objects or what not.
A modern internal frame will impress the hell out of you. |
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it depends on what activity you'll be doing.
External frames are good for trail hiking and can actually carry more weight more comfortably, but the internal frames are better for scrambling up rocks, walking through tight forests and strenous physical activities. decide what activity you'll most likely be doing, from there you can pick the best features of that family of packs. Internals are popular cause they look cool and fit the latest trend in outdoor activities currently in vogue. Externals work for straight trails buthave fallen out of favor with the american market in the last 30 years. |
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Quoted: Which is better and why? I'm old school & like the exterior pockets on the exterior framed packs, but am thinking the internal frames are more comfortable. Thanks in advance. imho an external will feel lighter than it should...and an internal will "fit" better than it should ..lol all my rucks are internal sans the wifes kelty trekker. |
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it depends on what activity you'll be doing. External frames are good for trail hiking and can actually carry more weight more comfortably, but the internal frames are better for scrambling up rocks, walking through tight forests and strenous physical activities. decide what activity you'll most likely be doing, from there you can pick the best features of that family of packs. Internals are popular cause they look cool and fit the latest trend in outdoor activities currently in vogue. Externals work for straight trails buthave fallen out of favor with the american market in the last 30 years. I would argue they've fallen out of favor because the "carry more weight more comfortably" thing just isn't so true anymore. Internal frame packs have made leaps and bounds in both ventilation and weight carrying, making those traditional advantages of external frames whither away. |
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Lighter, less expenisve, better opinions out their for hiking... ULA Gossemer gear Osprey Quoted:
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Thank for the info.! The main use will be trail hiking. That Mystery Ranch ruck looks very nice! Lighter, less expenisve, better opinions out their for hiking... ULA Gossemer gear Osprey Ok, I check them out. Thanks |
| I have an internal frame pack I bought 7 or 8 years ago and never found it comfy with anything over 40 pounds in it. I have gone through a few packs since then but the last one I picked up was an Alps Outdoorz Freighter Commander. Most comfortable pack I have owned. I loaded it up with gear to test it as i planned to use it for my I.N.C.H. bag when i bought it. It weighed in at 83 pounds loaded and felt more comfortable than most of my other packs loaded with 30 pounds. Humped it for 10 miles with no discomfort to fine tune it. Best part is it was just over $100. |
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I have an internal frame pack I bought 7 or 8 years ago and never found it comfy with anything over 40 pounds in it. I have gone through a few packs since then but the last one I picked up was an Alps Outdoorz Freighter Commander. Most comfortable pack I have owned. I loaded it up with gear to test it as i planned to use it for my I.N.C.H. bag when i bought it. It weighed in at 83 pounds loaded and felt more comfortable than most of my other packs loaded with 30 pounds. Humped it for 10 miles with no discomfort to fine tune it. Best part is it was just over $100. I looked that company up and they are located in New Haven MO, right. In my backyard . Looks really interesting, I like the ability to carry a rifle. ETA: where did you buy it? |
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I have an internal frame pack I bought 7 or 8 years ago and never found it comfy with anything over 40 pounds in it. I have gone through a few packs since then but the last one I picked up was an Alps Outdoorz Freighter Commander. Most comfortable pack I have owned. I loaded it up with gear to test it as i planned to use it for my I.N.C.H. bag when i bought it. It weighed in at 83 pounds loaded and felt more comfortable than most of my other packs loaded with 30 pounds. Humped it for 10 miles with no discomfort to fine tune it. Best part is it was just over $100. To clarify my earlier point, the only frame I have ever had that kind of weight in was an ALICE pack - and that isn't exactly an ideal design. I have never lugged over 50 pounds in a civilian ruck, save for maybe water for a short distance. With load requirements like that, a good frame is quite possibly the way to go. |
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Thanks. Merry Christmas! You're welcome and Merry Christmas to you too. Just FYI they also make fantastic tents. The cool thing about that setup is that the bag removes from the frame because the frame itself was designed to carry a quartered elk if you are hunting. The frame has a separate strapping system and a lower shelf. Also comes in handy for carrying firewood and stacked 5 gallon buckets. |
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I looked that company up and they are located in New Haven MO, right. In my backyard . Looks really interesting, I like the ability to carry a rifle. ETA: where did you buy it? Quoted:
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I have an internal frame pack I bought 7 or 8 years ago and never found it comfy with anything over 40 pounds in it. I have gone through a few packs since then but the last one I picked up was an Alps Outdoorz Freighter Commander. Most comfortable pack I have owned. I loaded it up with gear to test it as i planned to use it for my I.N.C.H. bag when i bought it. It weighed in at 83 pounds loaded and felt more comfortable than most of my other packs loaded with 30 pounds. Humped it for 10 miles with no discomfort to fine tune it. Best part is it was just over $100. I looked that company up and they are located in New Haven MO, right. In my backyard . Looks really interesting, I like the ability to carry a rifle. ETA: where did you buy it? Give them a call and see if they have a factory store with seconds/blems if they are near you. I got a Seirra Designs tent that way years ago. Moonstone bag too. |
For my needs it is "get both". Internal frame for for back packing & camping.  On the left, JanSport internal, bought it on ebay for $45. It was comfortable up to about 62lbs.  Then there is the external frame for packing out meat.  Mine is nearly 40yrs old. My son's is rather new.   |