Posted: 3/17/2013 10:01:54 AM EDT
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which ones are the best to grow for long-term storage?
To prep them for storage do you just dehydrate them? Thx |
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Quoted: Thanks for the replies. I'm not real interested in green beans for LT storage but those varieties that would dry well & be used for soup/stew like black beans, kidney beans, etc. While canning is fine I'd like to grow & store beans dry vs. relying on a freezer. In that case, I would find what grows well in your area that you like and grow/dry/store those. Spring is coming, try them all! |
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I have a few hundred pounds of pinto beans but I dont consider thats enough to go with 2000 pounds of wheat. So either this week or next Ill be running out to to corn land to pick up 400 pounds of soybeans for sprouting. Its possibe to cook with them but from what I hear they arnt the tastiest. They would make a great trading item too. Im going to see what else they have at the elevator too. Maybe some millet would be good. Im just taking whatever I can get a good deal on right now. I think soybeans are around $17 per bag but I havent checked yet. |
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I have a few hundred pounds of pinto beans but I dont consider thats enough to go with 2000 pounds of wheat. So either this week or next Ill be running out to to corn land to pick up 400 pounds of soybeans for sprouting. Its possibe to cook with them but from what I hear they arnt the tastiest. They would make a great trading item too. Im going to see what else they have at the elevator too. Maybe some millet would be good. Im just taking whatever I can get a good deal on right now. I think soybeans are around $17 per bag but I havent checked yet. Dude. soybean sprouts are tasty. tofu and tempeh are bland, but like pasta or rice, excellent with a good sauce. There is a korean fermented soy product paste (Doen Jang SP??)) thats pretty easy to make, and I think is one of the worlds top seasonings, alongside catsup. Tofu is also easy to make at home. As for the OP, most beans are pretty easy to grow at home. I normally grow beans for fresh or frozzen and buy dried beans, but I've dried them in a solar dehydrator before. Black eyed peas, pintos, purple hulled, cow peas, are all common arround here. Most beans are legumes and add nitrogen to the soil. |
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I have a few hundred pounds of pinto beans but I dont consider thats enough to go with 2000 pounds of wheat. So either this week or next Ill be running out to to corn land to pick up 400 pounds of soybeans for sprouting. Its possibe to cook with them but from what I hear they arnt the tastiest. They would make a great trading item too. Im going to see what else they have at the elevator too. Maybe some millet would be good. Im just taking whatever I can get a good deal on right now. I think soybeans are around $17 per bag but I havent checked yet. Dude. soybean sprouts are tasty. tofu and tempeh are bland, but like pasta or rice, excellent with a good sauce. There is a korean fermented soy product paste (Doen Jang SP??)) thats pretty easy to make, and I think is one of the worlds top seasonings, alongside catsup. I did say they were for sprouting, didnt I? Soybeans have a lot of uses but they arnt too yummy when cooked like other beans. Like refried beans. Dude. Dude? |
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I thought you were talking about cooking with sprouted soybeans not being tasty. If you are not aware soy sprouts (and beans) need to be cooked, as they are slighly toxic to non ruminents. The sprouts Ive eaten were raw except for bean sprouts in chinese food. Yes, as far as I know all beans need to be cooked. But Ive heard that soybeans are not too good for tastey recipes. But Im definitely willing to experiment. Id bet money that TJ has experimented. I think ill do more web searching to see what recipes might be good. I cant remember where I got that info that cooked soybeans sucked in recipes but I definitely read it someplace. Im just getting them because theyre cheap. 400 pounds or more for a little over $100. I think Ill go looking for info as there is a gap in my knowledge about this. I wonder if TJ has info on this. |
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I thought you were talking about cooking with sprouted soybeans not being tasty. If you are not aware soy sprouts (and beans) need to be cooked, as they are slighly toxic to non ruminents. Well I was off by a mile about that. I came across a zillion recipes using soybeans including Mother Earth News. Thats great news! Lets boost that order up to 12 bags of soybeans! What great trading stock. The one thing I have to check out is if there is any antifungal protection on them as they might be seed stock. As for protection from bugs, I have a huge bag of DE in my supplies. Now im even more of a soybeans fan. Thanks. |
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Soybean sprouts are kind of like mung bean in that they are fairly large and survive cooking. The major difference is they have a good, nutty flavor, while mung beans tend to take on the flavor of what they are cooked with. plus there is a higher precentage of bean, and less sprout with soy.
I've never had any dish made with the whole beans that I cared for (and I love beans cooked almost any way), but the sprouts are great, I like tempeh (never made it though), and don't mind tofu. Soy's oil content alone makes it a good choice for storage. I get my soybeans from the local feed store where they are packaged as deer feed. They sale more to Koreans than to hunters due to their price, and the quality of the beans is far better then in say deer corn- they look straight out of the grain wagon from a decent harvest- not cleaned like seed or bagged beans of course, but if TSHTF, I'll have time to clean them. |
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Soybean sprouts are kind of like mung bean in that they are fairly large and survive cooking. The major difference is they have a good, nutty flavor, while mung beans tend to take on the flavor of what they are cooked with. plus there is a higher precentage of bean, and less sprout with soy. I've never had any dish made with the whole beans that I cared for (and I love beans cooked almost any way), but the sprouts are great, I like tempeh (never made it though), and don't mind tofu. Soy's oil content alone makes it a good choice for storage. I get my soybeans from the local feed store where they are packaged as deer feed. They sale more to Koreans than to hunters due to their price, and the quality of the beans is far better then in say deer corn- they look straight out of the grain wagon from a decent harvest- not cleaned like seed or bagged beans of course, but if TSHTF, I'll have time to clean them. Great tip, thanks. I hadnt though about being used for deer feed. About 17 years ago in Montanna I bought peanuts cheap like that too. I think they were $10 per bag. Ill be asking for any feed they have for animals. Can you imagine being caught after the SHTF with expensive foods stored when you could have gotten twice as much for the same price? Beans and grains and lentils is what I focus on for the bulk stuff. |
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Soybean sprouts are kind of like mung bean in that they are fairly large and survive cooking. The major difference is they have a good, nutty flavor, while mung beans tend to take on the flavor of what they are cooked with. plus there is a higher precentage of bean, and less sprout with soy. I've never had any dish made with the whole beans that I cared for (and I love beans cooked almost any way), but the sprouts are great, I like tempeh (never made it though), and don't mind tofu. Soy's oil content alone makes it a good choice for storage. I get my soybeans from the local feed store where they are packaged as deer feed. They sale more to Koreans than to hunters due to their price, and the quality of the beans is far better then in say deer corn- they look straight out of the grain wagon from a decent harvest- not cleaned like seed or bagged beans of course, but if TSHTF, I'll have time to clean them. Great tip, thanks. I hadnt though about being used for deer feed. About 17 years ago in Montanna I bought peanuts cheap like that too. I think they were $10 per bag. Ill be asking for any feed they have for animals. Can you imagine being caught after the SHTF with expensive foods stored when you could have gotten twice as much for the same price? Beans and grains and lentils is what I focus on for the bulk stuff. You want to watch the quality- I buy bulk corn from the bins at the same dealer, and it's probally just as good as what waltons's et al packages, but much (not all) of the deer corn arround here is a very poor quality product, worse than what people feed livestock. The soybeans are absolutely feed grade, and only need cleaning. As I said, they sale dozens of bags to asians. We used to be able to buy peanut splits (a nut that split in half) fairly cheap at the processing plant. Planters and other others want whole nuts, and we probally paid what they would get by trucking the splits to a peanut butter plant or oil extractor. Or maybe the nuts for butter or oil are a different cultivar, I don't know. |