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5/6/2012 5:45:40 PM EDT
I have been watching the Universe on the H2 channel and although I had an idea of the damage Solar Flairs Flares could inflict, I had no idea of the extent!.  It will require some major preps!

I think the Achilles heel for me will be fuel for heat.  I also need to put in a hand/solar pump for the well.

And BTW, the solar flare occurrence has been on the rise.  

Spotless Days
Current Stretch: 0 days
2012 total: 0 days (0%)
2011 total: 2 days (<1%)
2010 total: 51 days (14%)
2009 total: 260 days (71%)
Since 2004: 821 days
5/6/2012 5:47:39 PM EDT
[#1]
are they anything like solar flares?
 
5/6/2012 5:57:53 PM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


I have been watching the Universe on the H2 channel and although I had an idea of the damage Solar Flairs could inflict, I had no idea of the extent!.  It will require some major preps!



I think the Achilles heel for me will be fuel for heat.  I also need to put in a hand/solar pump for the well.



And BTW, the solar flair occurrence has been on the rise.  



Spotless Days

Current Stretch: 0 days

2012 total: 0 days (0%)

2011 total: 2 days (<1%)

2010 total: 51 days (14%)

2009 total: 260 days (71%)

Since 2004: 821 days



They haven't  got enough flair









 
5/6/2012 6:03:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
are they anything like solar flares?  


Sort of, but more showy.
5/6/2012 6:06:23 PM EDT
[#4]
Super moon gonna suck the Hemingway fault right out of the ground tonight.
5/6/2012 6:23:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
are they anything like solar flares?  


Sort of, but more showy.


I can always count on Arfcom to be tactful when someone makes a mistake!  
5/6/2012 6:28:54 PM EDT
[#6]
How often have they hit Earth?

I mean in recorded history?


5/7/2012 12:24:05 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
How often have they hit Earth?

I mean in recorded history?




Frequently, but severity varies. Many showy bouts of the northern lights are due to smaller flares lighting up the atmosphere. Smaller coronal mass ejections can happen about weekly during active solar cycles, sending little bits of extra solar wind buffeting the atmosphere and lighting off auroras.

On the low end of the scale you could see the northern lights in California, or have limited regional power outages. On a larger scale you may have something like the Carrington Event - people were able to walk outside and read newspapers at midnight, and telegraph offices caught fire from the electromagnetic energy getting transmitted along the telegraph lines.

Radioactive isotopes generated by the action of solar radiation on the upper reaches of the atmosphere can give us a historical timeline of solar activity, as the level of those radio isotopes in ice core samples will vary. Based on that ice core data, we can expect as a general rule to see Carrington events every few centuries, and slightly smaller events several times per century. There were a couple of smaller storms, one in the 20's and another in the early 60's, that made radio transmission pretty difficult for a little while.
5/7/2012 7:19:16 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
are they anything like solar flares?  


Sort of, but more showy.


I can always count on Arfcom to be tactful when someone makes a mistake!  


We're just funnin' with you.  Thanks for being a good sport.
5/7/2012 9:50:12 AM EDT
[#9]
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Super moon gonna suck the Hemingway fault right out of the ground tonight.


Queue ominous music
5/7/2012 10:27:58 AM EDT
[#10]
You are aware that solar activity runs in cycles, right?

Looking at the past few years wont' give you an accurate assesment.

5/7/2012 5:14:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Yes I do.  The problem is the chances of a direct hit goes up with frequency of the occurrence, and depending on the angle/polarity of the emissions hitting the earth's magnetic field it could  destroy a very large percentage of the grid and transformers.

Apparently there is only one factory producing the transformers and it may be dark for many months or years, perhaps even globally! Can someone shed more light on this.
5/7/2012 5:30:29 PM EDT
[#12]


 






but really, they can be dangerous, but I wouldn't put too much weight on them







we know when they're coming (I usually unhook my HF antenna for big ones)
5/7/2012 5:49:13 PM EDT
[#13]


BS.... we all know the source of the Mayan apocalypse is Dick Clark's demise. The world not going beyond 2012 has nothing to do with solar flares....
5/7/2012 7:19:30 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
How often have they hit Earth?

I mean in recorded history?




Solar Storm Of 1859

This event alone is enough for me to take solar flares seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

My favorite part:

"Telegraph systems all over Europe and North America failed, in some cases even shocking telegraph operators.[5] Telegraph pylons threw sparks and telegraph paper spontaneously caught fire.[6] Some telegraph systems appeared to continue to send and receive messages despite having been disconnected from their power supplies."

Other interesting notes:

"Ice cores contain thin nitrate-rich layers that can be used to reconstruct a history of past events before reliable observations. These show evidence that events of this magnitude—as measured by high-energy proton radiation, not geomagnetic effect—occur approximately once per 500 years, with events at least one-fifth as large occurring several times per century.[9] Less severe storms have occurred in 1921 and 1960, when widespread radio disruption was reported.

Granted, it may or may not happen in my lifetime, but a large one will occur again here someday.
5/8/2012 4:01:05 PM EDT
[#15]
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Yes I do.  The problem is the chances of a direct hit goes up with frequency of the occurrence, and depending on the angle/polarity of the emissions hitting the earth's magnetic field it could  destroy a very large percentage of the grid and transformers.

Apparently there is only one factory producing the transformers and it may be dark for many months or years, perhaps even globally! Can someone shed more light on this.


No electricity -> No gas stations -> No gasoline -> No city/well water -> No trucks moving -> No food -> Major SHTF!
5/9/2012 5:29:36 AM EDT
[#16]
There are a couple of CME's headed towards us right now, in fact:

From www.spaceweather.com:

TWO INCOMING CMEs: A pair of solar eruptions on May 7th hurled coronal masss ejections (CMEs) toward Earth. Forecast tracks prepared by analysts at the Goddard Space Weather Lab suggests that clouds with arrive in succession on May 9th at 13:40 UT and May 10th at 07:54 UT (+/- 7 hours). The double impact could spark moderate geomagnetic storms.


And a big sunspot with the potential for X-class flares.

5/9/2012 7:35:50 AM EDT
[#17]


 



M4.7 a few hours ago also









5/9/2012 8:10:25 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Yes I do.  The problem is the chances of a direct hit goes up with frequency of the occurrence, and depending on the angle/polarity of the emissions hitting the earth's magnetic field it could  destroy a very large percentage of the grid and transformers.

Apparently there is only one factory producing the transformers and it may be dark for many months or years, perhaps even globally! Can someone shed more light on this.


No electricity -> No gas stations -> No gasoline -> No city/well water -> No trucks moving -> No food -> Major SHTF!



aka a la lights out