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I think that all depends on your AO.  I think if your plan is to go Wolverine in the forest, yeah, thats a pretty bad idea.

Our choice was to buy a five acre parcel in a development of 5 acre parcels about 5 miles outside of town.  We are way off any main roads, down an unmarked non county road and not on the way to anywhere.  If there is an exodus, hopefully it will follow the major roads or common routes out to the forest...  
If you are concerned with it, get your property somewhere you think will be less likely to be on someones way to somewhere.  Not much else you can do.

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So with the major popularity of survival it seems to me EVERYONE has the SAME plan to G.O.O.D which is head for the hills or going out to a "Farm" or the country  something along those lines which is ok but it seems like the masses all have the same idea now which creates a problem for us Folk. if Millions of people all have the same mentality don't you think that will backfire? the sheep that don't know how to survive will go about killing each-other & game & animals with no real know how while wasting good meat and food. So my point is...When everyone escapes the city's do you think the rural areas will become the shit stain when shtf?

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By all means, dont expect "game & animals" to even be part of your food equation. IF you're thinking of doing that in any way to put food on the table there will already be thousands of others doing the same thing. Animals have been hunted to near extinction before during the 30's and there wasnt nearly as much people as there is today.
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Who says they will make it out of the cities?  

If people don't have a bol they aren't leaving to go any where with "the children".

If the Nest is still habitable and there is a thread of sustanace to survive on then

Mama ain't goin no where unless it's to a food distrubution point close by.

Regional disaster ,they will set staging areas and distrubution points and

people aren't straying too far from the hand outs for sure.

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I've said it countless times, but I'll say it again. Wild game will be nearly wiped out in short order when everybody and their dog starts subsistence hunting. For evidence, I point to deer harvest data from the MN DNR. In 9 short days (sunrise Sat to sundown the next Sunday) over 25% of the state's total deer population is harvested, and the vast majority of those are taken in the 4 days that fall on the weekend, because people still have to go to work. Many hunters don't even actually hunt, they just treat it like a big ol' drunk holiday away from the wives. Others are trophy hunters and will pass on the little buck because they want the big buck. That sort of thing. That's just from people going out for the fun of it, , put the effort and money into finding property, leases, etc to hunt, and adhere to tag limitations and fair chase rules.  What's gonna happen when every yayhoo with a firearm is running around dropping everything that could potentially be cooked? Shit will get scarce, FAST.

If SHTF to the point where everyone is bugging out, you better get farming ASAP.

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After reading your book I am in much more agreement with the idea that urban survival is the most likely scenario that anyone would have to prep for.  Countless stories exist even today where a home invasion happened in rural areas where all occupants were killed with no opposition.  There is a false sense of security when you leave a city, IMO.

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how does that differ from it happening in a city?

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Right.



I doubt there will be the kind of SHTF that many preppers fear.



I do expect a gradual and painful DECLINE in living standards as our citizens come to realize [or don't] that a country can't economically survive as a 'democracy' for long ––once the focus of the production of the country is mostly about providing for the COMFORT and CONVENIENCE of the population and IGNORE that a country MUST be PRODUCTIVE and sell more to the rest of the world that it consumes.



[I realize that this theory falls on mostly deaf ears and most Sheeple couldn't understand the logic of it if someone beat into their heads w/ a 2x4, incl here on the SF]



What I do expect over the next 10 years is an accelerating theft of our freedoms [incl the 2nd Amnt], a reduction in personal property rights [as a means to discourage excellence vs peers], the .gov becoming more and more 'Totalitarian', and increasing poverty and crime [that won't effectively be addressed].



Along with a more totalitarian state will be an increasing crack-down on 'personal' freedoms including drug use, no matter what they tell you to sucker you into electing them.



Eventually, in maybe 20 years, we will look like a well off Cuba socially and economically, with an iron fist Socialist rule.

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Man, that sucks, but it's not an unreasonable prediction.
 

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So with the major popularity of survival it seems to me EVERYONE has the SAME plan to G.O.O.D which is head for the hills or going out to a "Farm" or the country  something along those lines which is ok but it seems like the masses all have the same idea now which creates a problem for us Folk. if Millions of people all have the same mentality don't you think that will backfire? the sheep that don't know how to survive will go about killing each-other & game & animals with no real know how while wasting good meat and food. So my point is...When everyone escapes the city's do you think the rural areas will become the shit stain when shtf?

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People cannot successfully evacuate a Gulf city when a CAT 5 Hurricane is coming and they have 5 days advance notice. The idea any significant amount of the population will flee a city for the country in a true SHTF scenario is laughable.

 

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It differs because in the sticks no one will hear your screams.

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So with the major popularity of survival it seems to me EVERYONE has the SAME plan to G.O.O.D which is head for the hills or going out to a "Farm" or the country  something along those lines which is ok but it seems like the masses all have the same idea now which creates a problem for us Folk. if Millions of people all have the same mentality don't you think that will backfire? the sheep that don't know how to survive will go about killing each-other & game & animals with no real know how while wasting good meat and food. So my point is...When everyone escapes the city's do you think the rural areas will become the shit stain when shtf?

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Rita might be a better example.  I have friends in League City, TX who were in the initial evacuation zone.  It took them 20 hrs to make it as far as Katy, normally about 45-50 mins., still, 60 miles shy of their BOL.  Many people ran out of gas and ended blocking the roads.  The gas stations ran out as well.  They were calling and asking me to try and find a station online along their route that had fuel.  They ended up having some other friends who live west of their location bring them some fuel.  I guess that was a real learning experience for them.



If this happens on a larger scale, not just regional, I don't think there will be enough fuel and people without will have to hoof it.  I don't think every city dweller is going to make it to the country, but some will.  I hope the delay is enough time to get plans rolling.

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and in the city, they just ignore them.

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Being in a rural area doesn't solve all problems, but it is a better foundation.

You need to harden your rural area with extra manpower and organization.

http://wayfarerprotocols.blogspot.com/

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The fricken ODDS say they will make it out. Look, take a city the size of Kansas City. Not HUGE, but a larger US metro city. In KC proper there are a little over 450,000. Let's say that 1% make it out.....That's 4,500 people-that's a hell of a lot of people.....and you have to believe that 99% aren't going to die, be realistic.

Even when Rome fell well more than 1% of it's people survived, hell Pompei had a 90% survival rate for Chrissakes. The whole "they're all going to die" is bullshit fantasy land. It relies on convenient stereotypes of "ghetto rats too stupid to do anything and Sheeple who are paralyzed by fear etc....". It is pie in the sky planning.

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Sooner or later they will come, and I fear they will act like a never ending swarm of locusts devouring everything in their paths. Beg, borrow, steal or KILL will be the order of the day.

Depending on the cause, it could be a migration of the masses.

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Nicely played Sir.

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However, I think they are the lesser of the problems. The real issue is internal.

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Right.

I doubt there will be the kind of SUDDEN SHTF that many preppers expect/fear/hope for.

I do expect a gradual and painful DECLINE in living standards as our citizens come to realize [or don't] that a country can't economically survive as a 'democracy' for long ––once the focus of the production of the country is mostly about providing for the COMFORT and CONVENIENCE of the population [as we HAVE been doing for decades] and IGNORE that a successful/wealthy country MUST be PRODUCTIVE and sell more to the rest of the world than it consumes.

[I realize that this theory falls on mostly deaf ears and most Sheeple couldn't understand the logic of it if someone beat it into their heads w/ a 2x4, incl here on the SF]

What I expect over the next 10 years is an accelerating theft of our freedoms [incl the 2nd Amnt], a reduction in personal property rights [as a means to discourage excellence vs lazy peers], the .gov becoming more and more 'Totalitarian', and increasing poverty and crime [that won't effectively be addressed but likely 'encouraged' -by PLAN].

Along with a more totalitarian state will come an increasing crack-down on 'personal' freedoms, including drug use, no matter what they tell you to sucker you into electing them.

Eventually, as the Left closes in on their end game in maybe 20 years, we will look like a well off Cuba socially and economically, eating our remaining 'seed corn', living under an iron fist Socialist rule, and with countless millions of McMansions having fallen into ruin but with folks still living in them, scrabbling to make ends meet.

While Elite Leftists, having won the GREATEST PRIZE in history, will be sitting pretty [with your most attractive daughters and sons tending to them].

We have been brilliantly 'setup' to have our country STOLEN right from under our noses by the Left [that 1/2 the country LOVES to jump up and down and scream and cheer for, like a bunch of mindless fools at a concert] ––while everyone keeps stuffing shitty distractions into their brains and pay no attention to what's happening around/to them.