Posted: 12/28/2011 7:53:01 AM EDT
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I'm a big fan of prepositioning preps (not keeping your eggs all in one basket). I've thought long and hard about how to keep preps at a camp or BOL, knowing that often times these sort of places are broken into by local youth looking for stuff to sell/steal. I've read some good things over the years, but I'd like to throw out a couple ideas I have: Walls. Interior walls are just dead space. With standard 16" OC studs, you have 3.5" and 14.5" to work with stacking things up to 8 feet vertically. You could put a lot of stuff inside an interior wall. My idea is placing 1 gallon size mylar bags full of food inside the shallow tupperware containers made for under beds, then stuff some polyester fiber around so they don't rattle inside the walls. Burying things. Of course this is a standard, but how do you keep the water draining properly so as not to corrode your container, how do you find your buried stash or worse yet, what if someone suspects you have stuff buried and hunts around w/ a metal detector? My idea is simple. Dig your hole and put some gravel on the bottom. Place your watertight container (steel drum, sealed cooler, ammo cans, PVC, etc...) inside. Now instead of making a map or committing this to memory, place a tarp over it and order a few ton of sand delivered and dumped on top of tarp  Nobody want to fuck with that giant pile of sand on the ratty old tarp in the back...it's just building debris. The tarp keeps the water draining around you stash and the tons of sand keep people from looking under. Added benefit is sand available for sandbags or makeshift septic systems  I felt like posting these; who else has some cool ideas for stashing preps on rural property? Speed |
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I've done the false wall thing before on a build in bookshelf loaded with a lot of books. (I actaully wonder if it's still there at times.) Sure, you'd have to remove all the books to get to the cache but then again, you'd have to remove all the books to get to the cache.
I like the idea of a pile of sand over your preps and never thought about the bottom of the kitchen cabinets. |
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My idea is simple. Dig your hole and put some gravel on the bottom. Place your watertight container (steel drum, sealed cooler, ammo cans, PVC, etc...) inside. Now instead of making a map or committing this to memory, place a tarp over it and order a few ton of sand delivered and dumped on top of tarp
Nobody want to fuck with that giant pile of sand on the ratty old tarp in the back...it's just building debris. The tarp keeps the water draining around you stash and the tons of sand keep people from looking under. Added benefit is sand available for sandbags or makeshift septic systems
For a rural area that is a great idea. 
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If you store firearms(say, in a sealed section of pipe, buried) my dad taught me to pack them with grease to displace moisture so there's no rust or corrosion. He never did teach me a good way to get rid of the grease after you dig it up, though 
Time to text the old timer now that I think about it. You could also cut out a section of a mattress or base-board and store stuff in there. I would imagine burglars are looking to grab TVs, PCs, game systems, and anything else just laying out so they can get in and out quick. Doubtful they'd try to take the bed 
When I was a kid, There was this HUGE tree that had a hole about 9 feet up the trunk and the inside was hollow. I used to store my treasures there and as a teenager, my drug paraphanelia. Couldn't be found with a metal detectore and typically went unnoticed because it was so high up. You could bury something then build a fire pit over it and toss in some nails and cans or anything that would set off a metal detector as a decoy. Someone would see the nails and probably wouldn't think about something being underneath. |
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Nowadays the asshole thieves are ripping out walls to get to the copper wiring. So that might not be such a good idea anymore. I agree- NOT a Good Idea anymore!! I just went by yesterday to see my grandparents old place- noone has lived there since 1995- the yard was kept up till about 6 years ago and now everything is overgrown. Not one window still in one piece and ALL the walls have been gutted from the inside-you can't see it until you look or go inside. It makes me sick that this has happened,but there is nothing I can do-I live to far away to properly maintain it-just like as if it was a bol. FWIT-as long as grounds were maintained, noone bothered the place. |
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I'm a big fan of prepositioning preps (not keeping your eggs all in one basket). I've thought long and hard about how to keep preps at a camp or BOL, knowing that often times these sort of places are broken into by local youth looking for stuff to sell/steal. I've read some good things over the years, but I'd like to throw out a couple ideas I have: Walls. Interior walls are just dead space. With standard 16" OC studs, you have 3.5" and 14.5" to work with stacking things up to 8 feet vertically. You could put a lot of stuff inside an interior wall. My idea is placing 1 gallon size mylar bags full of food inside the shallow tupperware containers made for under beds, then stuff some polyester fiber around so they don't rattle inside the walls. Im not a fan of this, only because retrieval also involves destroying parts of my house. In the end, all your eggs are still in the basket, its just going to take longer to get them out. Cash is the only thing I would store in a wall, and its only because if wont require a big hole. Drywall is no fun, take it from me. Burying things. Of course this is a standard, but how do you keep the water draining properly so as not to corrode your container, how do you find your buried stash or worse yet, what if someone suspects you have stuff buried and hunts around w/ a metal detector? Throw a few hand fulls of bottle caps or nails around the area you buried it. That should keep em busy enough until they get discouraged and give up. ESPECIALLY bury a few real shallow directly over your stash. Hopefully they'll assume thats what the detector picked up. My idea is simple. Dig your hole and put some gravel on the bottom. Place your watertight container (steel drum, sealed cooler, ammo cans, PVC, etc...) inside. Now instead of making a map or committing this to memory, place a tarp over it and order a few ton of sand delivered and dumped on top of tarp
Nobody want to fuck with that giant pile of sand on the ratty old tarp in the back...it's just building debris. This is a good idea, but your last sentence may include yourself. What if you need to get to the stash in a hurry. Theres no quick or easy way to move a few tons/yards of anything short of machinery. The tarp keeps the water draining around you stash and the tons of sand keep people from looking under. Added benefit is sand available for sandbags or makeshift septic systems
I felt like posting these; who else has some cool ideas for stashing preps on rural property? If I was going to bury anything (which I have also been thinking about lately), I would do it out in my woods as opposed to my lawn. I think itll be easier to "mask" the hole with leaves rather than grass. I dont know how well it would work, but I was thinking I would make a french drain around and running away from my stash. To stop water from getting to my container I would make a "roof" out of Durock over the container diverting moisture straight to the drain pipes. Speed |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'm a big fan of prepositioning preps (not keeping your eggs all in one basket). I've thought long and hard about how to keep preps at a camp or BOL, knowing that often times these sort of places are broken into by local youth looking for stuff to sell/steal. I've read some good things over the years, but I'd like to throw out a couple ideas I have: Walls. Interior walls are just dead space. With standard 16" OC studs, you have 3.5" and 14.5" to work with stacking things up to 8 feet vertically. You could put a lot of stuff inside an interior wall. My idea is placing 1 gallon size mylar bags full of food inside the shallow tupperware containers made for under beds, then stuff some polyester fiber around so they don't rattle inside the walls. Im not a fan of this, only because retrieval also involves destroying parts of my house. In the end, all your eggs are still in the basket, its just going to take longer to get them out. Cash is the only thing I would store in a wall, and its only because if wont require a big hole. Drywall is no fun, take it from me. Burying things. Of course this is a standard, but how do you keep the water draining properly so as not to corrode your container, how do you find your buried stash or worse yet, what if someone suspects you have stuff buried and hunts around w/ a metal detector? Throw a few hand fulls of bottle caps or nails around the area you buried it. That should keep em busy enough until they get discouraged and give up. ESPECIALLY bury a few real shallow directly over your stash. Hopefully they'll assume thats what the detector picked up. My idea is simple. Dig your hole and put some gravel on the bottom. Place your watertight container (steel drum, sealed cooler, ammo cans, PVC, etc...) inside. Now instead of making a map or committing this to memory, place a tarp over it and order a few ton of sand delivered and dumped on top of tarp Nobody want to fuck with that giant pile of sand on the ratty old tarp in the back...it's just building debris. This is a good idea, but your last sentence may include yourself. What if you need to get to the stash in a hurry. Theres no quick or easy way to move a few tons/yards of anything short of machinery. The tarp keeps the water draining around you stash and the tons of sand keep people from looking under. Added benefit is sand available for sandbags or makeshift septic systems I felt like posting these; who else has some cool ideas for stashing preps on rural property? If I was going to bury anything (which I have also been thinking about lately), I would do it out in my woods as opposed to my lawn. I think itll be easier to "mask" the hole with leaves rather than grass. I dont know how well it would work, but I was thinking I would make a french drain around and running away from my stash. To stop water from getting to my container I would make a "roof" out of Durock over the container diverting moisture straight to the drain pipes. Speed This post is about stashing extra preps at a camp or BOL; not your primary preps in your house It's unlikely that you'd need to get to them in a fantastic hurry, and I certainly wouldn't bother with drywall on a deer camp: cheap, faux wood, interior paneling seems to still be the norm here for camps Speed |
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If you store firearms(say, in a sealed section of pipe, buried) my dad taught me to pack them with grease to displace moisture so there's no rust or corrosion. He never did teach me a good way to get rid of the grease after you dig it up, though
Time to text the old timer now that I think about it. Can't remember where I read it, but someone posted pics of a few rifles and pistols he had been storing since the mid 90's. IIRC he made some o2 absorbers and lubed the guns with 10-30 and packaged them all in plastic. The pics showed very minor surface rust and after a decent cleaning all the weapons looked great, to me. So maybe oily rags rapped around a rifle, in a giant ziplock/garbage bag with o2/desiccant and then put all that into a length of PVC capped at each end. M |
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[/quote] This post is about stashing extra preps at a camp or BOL; not your primary preps in your house
It's unlikely that you'd need to get to them in a fantastic hurry, and I certainly wouldn't bother with drywall on a deer camp: cheap, faux wood, interior paneling seems to still be the norm here for camps
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If you store firearms(say, in a sealed section of pipe, buried) my dad taught me to pack them with grease to displace moisture so there's no rust or corrosion. He never did teach me a good way to get rid of the grease after you dig it up, though
Time to text the old timer now that I think about it. Can't remember where I read it, but someone posted pics of a few rifles and pistols he had been storing since the mid 90's. IIRC he made some o2 absorbers and lubed the guns with 10-30 and packaged them all in plastic. The pics showed very minor surface rust and after a decent cleaning all the weapons looked great, to me. So maybe oily rags rapped around a rifle, in a giant ziplock/garbage bag with o2/desiccant and then put all that into a length of PVC capped at each end. M OOOhhh that's a good idea. If I ever manage to build my armory large enough, I'll have to experiment with this 
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