Posted: 9/14/2011 1:12:00 PM EDT
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I recently ran across this, and the first thing I thought of was the similarities I read in FerFal's book.
Stay frosty gentleman. People are losing it... |
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i knew some old lady was desperate for a hot dog at Sams club over the weekend, because i got a pre 64 nickle in my change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but you are now the proud owner of just a nickle. Pre 64 silver US coins only applies to dimes and up. War nickles, (partial silver) were only minted 1942-1045. They will also have the large mint mark over the dome on the reverse. Semper Fi |
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Quoted: Quoted: i knew some old lady was desperate for a hot dog at Sams club over the weekend, because i got a pre 64 nickle in my change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but you are now the proud owner of just a nickle. Pre 64 silver US coins only applies to dimes and up. War nickles, (partial silver) were only minted 1942-1045. They will also have the large mint mark over the dome on the reverse. Semper Fi that really wasnt my point, i just worded it wrong. Older folks tended to keep change from back when they were working to have as a savings for when they needed it if times got tough. So now that these people are old and their retirement money is running out, they start spending their change and it just happens to be older dates. |
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i knew some old lady was desperate for a hot dog at Sams club over the weekend, because i got a pre 64 nickle in my change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but you are now the proud owner of just a nickle. Pre 64 silver US coins only applies to dimes and up. War nickles, (partial silver) were only minted 1942-1045. They will also have the large mint mark over the dome on the reverse. Semper Fi that really wasnt my point, i just worded it wrong. Older folks tended to keep change from back when they were working to have as a savings for when they needed it if times got tough. So now that these people are old and their retirement money is running out, they start spending their change and it just happens to be older dates. 
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I recently ran across this, and the first thing I thought of was the similarities I read in FerFal's book. Stay frosty gentleman. People are losing it... Dumb people have been around forever, these are just stories of 20 of the dumbest people I've heard about, and some of the dumb ones in these stories aren't even the ones committing the violent acts. Take story # 3 for instance. Guy pours gas all over his dining room and places containers of gas under the table. Thats pretty harsh. But who the hell is dumb enough to gather the family in the gas drenched room and sit down for dinner?!?!?! And then he poured kerosene on them and lit them on fire? Who just sits there and tries to enjoy their dinner when crazy Justino is dumping fuel all over you again. # 7 Florida woman tried selling her baby for 75,000. You can't just sell babies dumb-ass! # 13 . . . Lady . . . Get a job and you can stop complaining about collecting cans at the beach! #15 - 42 people hit by gunfire in NYC over labor day weekend. Thats terribly unfortunate for 42 people, but people have been killing each other in New York City since before it was New York City. Thats not new with the times. . . and 42 was probably a good weekend compared to some of the history that city has. Sounds like the writer is the paranoid one. Sorry for the rant but this one was fun, I was just mad I read the whole thing! |
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all of my grandparents did this, sorry if its confusing for you. Not confusing, I just think you're making a pretty big leap to say that because somebody gave you a pre-64 nickel, it's a sign that older folks are raiding their piggy banks. There are a LOT of pre-'64 coins still in circulation; the only ones that are scarce are the silver ones. That being said, I don't necessarily disagree that people are beginning to get desperate. And it's going to get worse before it gets better, I'm afraid. |
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This guy is stealing baby formula in suit cases from Wal Mart
Police say he committed these crimes at area Wal-Marts by stealing a piece of luggage, then stealing Similac (baby formula) and concealing it inside the luggage. .
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/206777/45/Parma-police-seek-Wal-Mart-luggage-stealing-suspect |
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i knew some old lady was desperate for a hot dog at Sams club over the weekend, because i got a pre 64 nickle in my change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but you are now the proud owner of just a nickle. Pre 64 silver US coins only applies to dimes and up. War nickles, (partial silver) were only minted 1942-1045. They will also have the large mint mark over the dome on the reverse. Semper Fi That must be quite a rare one. |
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Wow. Even Celente now is being put on mainstream news shows:
yahoo finance news article with video |
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i knew some old lady was desperate for a hot dog at Sams club over the weekend, because i got a pre 64 nickle in my change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but you are now the proud owner of just a nickle. Pre 64 silver US coins only applies to dimes and up. War nickles, (partial silver) were only minted 1942-1045. They will also have the large mint mark over the dome on the reverse. Semper Fi That must be quite a rare one. Darned straight that's the rare one! I just happen to have one in nice shape I'd sell you! No pets or children in trade, straight cash please! 
Semper Fi |
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i knew some old lady was desperate for a hot dog at Sams club over the weekend, because i got a pre 64 nickle in my change. I hate to be a bearer of bad news but you are now the proud owner of just a nickle. Pre 64 silver US coins only applies to dimes and up. War nickles, (partial silver) were only minted 1942-1045. They will also have the large mint mark over the dome on the reverse. Semper Fi I JUST found a '42 War Nickel in change yesterday...Fortunately I have access to thousands of coins almost ever 3 or 4 days.... 
As you can see it's valued at approx $2.30 for ALL the metals in it... Coinflation JB ps I didnt mean to hijack the thread...My apologies |
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This guy is stealing baby formula in suit cases from Wal Mart Police say he committed these crimes at area Wal-Marts by stealing a piece of luggage, then stealing Similac (baby formula) and concealing it inside the luggage. .
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/206777/45/Parma-police-seek-Wal-Mart-luggage-stealing-suspect Similac is used to cut meth. About a 99.999% chance he was doing it for dope and not a baby. |
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Quoted: The poverty line WOULD be relelvent if they lowered the criteria a bit. As it stands....you can have an Escalade, 50 inch, flat panel. television, and DirecTV. But, as soon as you remove one of these items....Straight to food stamps! bingo. so many people have no real idea how messed up or how the entitlement programs are. When they do get a small peak at it , it is shocking to them to say the least. and no i dont think people are getting desperate yet. This is what you should look for- when people STOP going on vacations when they stop going out to eat when car sales plummet when homes are not being built or sold when things like cell phones, xbox's, other electronics do not sell well or become rare. i dont see any of that happening to large masses of our population.......yet. I dont see what many consider poor doing any of that...... i dont see those on programs doing any of that..... |
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If you are saying crime is on the increase, it has been for quite a while now.
Crime statistics mean almost nothing anymore as the percentage of non-reported crimes and quite frankly unwilling to prosecute crimes encourages the non-reporting. The media has both a social and political agenda and that's more important than your families life let alone your need to know. You have to look around you now and keep your own statistics. 20 years I have lived here. I chose this spot due to the demographics and low crime. There was not crime until the 2008 crash. Since then, we've had one murder and two burglaries. Yes, programs like food stamps and extended unemployment are ebbing the tide but reality is we're in an inflationary period and that stuff isn't going as far as it use to. It typically isn't the fresh unemployed, never was. It is and always has been those disenfranchised on the bottom as the bottom sinks even lower. All those welfare babies in prison is not by some fluke of nature. Eventually hard times will beget hard measures, but until then there's a lag time where crime is going to increase exponentially. People are going to be in denial and the media trying their damnedest to keep them that way. If you don't have crime on the increase in your trend chart, you've missed the boat. Times get hard, that's what happens. Tj |
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A few anecdotes do not equal a crime wave. Violent crime has been falling and that fall accelerated once the economy went to pieces. See http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/preliminary-annual-ucr-jan-dec-2010/data-tables/table-3. The same thing happened during the Great Depression.
It is interesting how perceptions change during hard times. |
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A few anecdotes do not equal a crime wave. Violent crime has been falling and that fall accelerated once the economy went to pieces. See http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/preliminary-annual-ucr-jan-dec-2010/data-tables/table-3. The same thing happened during the Great Depression. It is interesting how perceptions change during hard times. I agree. This is evidence of nothing but the depravity of the human condition which has not changed in 10000 years. |
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A few anecdotes do not equal a crime wave. Violent crime has been falling and that fall accelerated once the economy went to pieces. See http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/preliminary-annual-ucr-jan-dec-2010/data-tables/table-3. The same thing happened during the Great Depression. It is interesting how perceptions change during hard times. Just because the system is broken, not prosecuting as many crimes, and not getting as many convictions or pleading it downward, does not mean the crime didn't happen. Yes, crime decreased during the Great Depression. Historically it has in any economic turn down, however its not because people suddenly found Jesus when they were hungry. It was because intolerance of crime increased as it does historically in all economic downturns in history. During the Great Depression, you could call the police over shop lifting of a loaf of bread and it would not only be prosecuted but the thief see a chain gang or years in prison. Right now, you'd be lucky if the police don't just hang up on you. There's many things crime statistics don't tell us. Tops among them is crime is really divided into two major categories, known associate and stranger on stranger. Its during hard economic times stranger on stranger crime increases while known associate decreases. For us law abiding citizens, its the stranger on stranger crime that may impact us. Now go back to your FBI statistics and see what they say is the fastest growing violent crime in the US. You will find that is armed home invasion. A crime, once almost exclusively associated with drug dealing, has now ventured to elderly people suspected of having a prescription. Most of America dare not let their children play in the streets anymore. Most communities there is so much crime they don't even report 90% of in the media anymore. You can trust in your statistics. I hope you don't mind, I trust in Smith & Wesson. Tj |
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I'd like to trust in Smith & Wesson, TJ, but as the OP in the self-defense thread pointed out, we not only can't rely on the police, but they won't allow us to rely on our Smith & Wessons either! We are mandated under law to stand by and watch the thieves, robbers, and vandals leach from us our hard earned bounty, however meager that bounty might be. And until that changes, it sucks to be us. |
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I'd like to trust in Smith & Wesson, TJ, but as the OP in the self-defense thread pointed out, we not only can't rely on the police, but they won't allow us to rely on our Smith & Wessons either! We are mandated under law to stand by and watch the thieves, robbers, and vandals leach from us our hard earned bounty, however meager that bounty might be. And until that changes, it sucks to be us. Not exactly friend. It restricts us to at best put ourselves between the criminal and our property and meet force with like force. Its all quite Wild West, the bad guy gets the first move, but it doesn't totally stop us. That "the law gives equal wait to testimony" is a two edged sword where more often than not the benefit of doubt goes to the victim not the criminal. At most, they cancel each other. Where people make a mistake is thinking the law protects them or will support them. Our legal system is all about protecting rights and that's the criminal not the victim. If Mr. Smith & Wesson talks, it WILL be under a threat of severe bodily harm or death. That's my story. I'm sticking to it and there's the physical evidence. Where criminals finally make a mistake is in thinking the legal system protects them. I have no plans for killing anyone ever, but I have many plans on stopping people. I don't take criminals to raise and have no plans on lecturing them. Though I have no plans on hurting anyone ever, I'm not a cop so not charged with apprehension. I carry no handcuffs nor do I believe in the trust system while detaining someone. They're a criminal so can't be trusted. Tj |
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Quoted: Quoted: I'd like to trust in Smith & Wesson, TJ, but as the OP in the self-defense thread pointed out, we not only can't rely on the police, but they won't allow us to rely on our Smith & Wessons either! We are mandated under law to stand by and watch the thieves, robbers, and vandals leach from us our hard earned bounty, however meager that bounty might be. And until that changes, it sucks to be us. Not exactly friend. It restricts us to at best put ourselves between the criminal and our property and meet force with like force. Its all quite Wild West, the bad guy gets the first move, but it doesn't totally stop us. That "the law gives equal wait to testimony" is a two edged sword where more often than not the benefit of doubt goes to the victim not the criminal. At most, they cancel each other. Where people make a mistake is thinking the law protects them or will support them. Our legal system is all about protecting rights and that's the criminal not the victim. If Mr. Smith & Wesson talks, it WILL be under a threat of severe bodily harm or death. That's my story. I'm sticking to it and there's the physical evidence. Where criminals finally make a mistake is in thinking the legal system protects them. I have no plans for killing anyone ever, but I have many plans on stopping people. I don't take criminals to raise and have no plans on lecturing them. Though I have no plans on hurting anyone ever, I'm not a cop so not charged with apprehension. I carry no handcuffs nor do I believe in the trust system while detaining someone. They're a criminal so can't be trusted. Tj The trouble with putting yourself between your property and the bad guy is that it isn't always possible, and when it is, it becomes a test of wills. If the bad guy decides not to pull a weapon, there's really no way to stop him unless you're willing to either shoot him or wrestle with him. We see where shooting gets you in many jurisdictions. Wrestling? With my bad knee? If the bad guy is relatively certain (and many of them are) that you won't just shoot, the threat is missing. Nothing quite so sobering as a troll laughing at you and telling you how you'll go to jail if you try to shoot him. |
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I'd like to trust in Smith & Wesson, TJ, but as the OP in the self-defense thread pointed out, we not only can't rely on the police, but they won't allow us to rely on our Smith & Wessons either! We are mandated under law to stand by and watch the thieves, robbers, and vandals leach from us our hard earned bounty, however meager that bounty might be. And until that changes, it sucks to be us. Not exactly friend. It restricts us to at best put ourselves between the criminal and our property and meet force with like force. Its all quite Wild West, the bad guy gets the first move, but it doesn't totally stop us. That "the law gives equal wait to testimony" is a two edged sword where more often than not the benefit of doubt goes to the victim not the criminal. At most, they cancel each other. Where people make a mistake is thinking the law protects them or will support them. Our legal system is all about protecting rights and that's the criminal not the victim. If Mr. Smith & Wesson talks, it WILL be under a threat of severe bodily harm or death. That's my story. I'm sticking to it and there's the physical evidence. Where criminals finally make a mistake is in thinking the legal system protects them. I have no plans for killing anyone ever, but I have many plans on stopping people. I don't take criminals to raise and have no plans on lecturing them. Though I have no plans on hurting anyone ever, I'm not a cop so not charged with apprehension. I carry no handcuffs nor do I believe in the trust system while detaining someone. They're a criminal so can't be trusted. Tj The trouble with putting yourself between your property and the bad guy is that it isn't always possible, and when it is, it becomes a test of wills. If the bad guy decides not to pull a weapon, there's really no way to stop him unless you're willing to either shoot him or wrestle with him. We see where shooting gets you in many jurisdictions. Wrestling? With my bad knee? If the bad guy is relatively certain (and many of them are) that you won't just shoot, the threat is missing. Nothing quite so sobering as a troll laughing at you and telling you how you'll go to jail if you try to shoot him. There's always less lethal options if the perp doesn't pull a weapon and you don't mind him getting closer to you... pepper spray, tasers, etc. |
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I recently ran across this, and the first thing I thought of was the similarities I read in FerFal's book. Stay frosty gentleman. People are losing it... The author asked this question...Did this kind of stuff happen in America 50 or 60 years ago? The answer is YES. |
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It is only going to get worse, as more and more of the entitlement element find their way of life threatened or cut off. The middle class in America is a shadow of its former self and continuing to lose ground. More and more families are becoming homeless. The reckless disregard for not only the law but basic human courtesy is becoming more the rule than the exception.
You MUST network with others who are like minded AND actively prepping. You need to be storing supplies, food and consumables for what is coming. Get out and exercise to improve your health. TRAIN with your weapons and with your group. The lone wolf mentality will get you killed. What we are seeing in this country now will be referred to as "the good old days" compared to what is coming I believe. |