Posted: 6/28/2011 1:18:14 PM EDT
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Ok, here's in interesting story for ya. I was at the doctors office today and one of the nurses who recognized me as a Veteran, was speaking to me about her nephew who is in the Army Reserves here in Michigan. I am not sure what he does in the military, only that he & his company alike are not currently preforming their assigned MOS (Military Occupational Specialty). Anyway, she went on to tell me that she had recently spoken with her nephew who was complaining about their training regimen. He said all they have been doing lately in Riot Control Training, Riot Control Training, Riot Control Training, and yet more Riot Control Training. He then told her that he was advised they were gearing up for something big in September of this year. This person was not privie to more details, but he knows that they are not deploying anytime soon. Just that he was a bit confused about all the sudden riot training and it all being kept hush hush, other than he heard something about this September. Also, that he was confused about the new Riot Training instead of their regular job (MOS).
Now, here is another interesting piece of information for ya. I happen to know that a HUGE number of police agencies in the State of Michigan have all attended riot training. This training was to train everyone in the same verbal commands, hand & arm signals, and formations used by the U.S. Military & Federal Law Enforcement Agencies. This training was also paid for in part by Uncle Sugar. I am a bit confused. I'm not trying to make anyone run for the hills and I apologize if this is a dup. I would just like to put this out there to see if anyone else knows anything else about this stuff. It could very well be nothing as I really hope it is. I know when I was in the Military, we did some riot training. Not a bunch, but some. I wonder if this is just something that is part of normal training or is it a preparation for something nasty to come. I was told many many moons ago that the ARMY RESERVE and NATIONAL GUARD Military Police were planing on round ups and quarantines if Y2K had gone nasty. OK, I have now taken off my tin foil hat and am listening for any other intel out there. 
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Doesn't MI have the nations largest population of muslims? I think someting is suposed to happen in Sept having to do with the Arab Spring thing that is going on now. I could be wrong on that, but I do remember hearing about something happening in Sept. in the Middle East.
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| My Sgt. (law enforcement not Military) went in for ILEAS training specifically for riot control. It was paid for using federal Homeland Security funds. He would have mentioned it if it was for a planned event if he knew. He was showing me videos of his team in action in other states performing riot control. Since the Feds can't use the military easily on american soil I think they are putting together a non-military group to use instead. I think the .gov is just trying to prepare. |
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Interdasting.
The goverment fiscal year ends/starts in October? In any case, most likely monetary related. Stock market crashing again. Dollar devaluation and hyper-inflation. Entitlements being withheld. Dogs and cats sleeping together... Still got some friends .mil side, I'll see if this is localized or nationwide. Also, keep in mind PMC use has risen in the states, most notable examples are Katrina and G20/G8 summits. I'll keep my ear to the ground in the industry to see if a demand pops up for something along these lines. |
| Even if the right and left can't agree on the debt ceiling, the 14th amendment declares the debt ceiling unconstitutional. And there is precedent to back that up. Only reason they haven't pulled that card yet is it would rile the markets almost as much as a default. |
| "Loose lips sink ships"...these words became ever more important in the days that followed WWII where they were born. There are many different views about why they would be performing such training. No word of a deployment...well why would they tell you something that you don't need to know right now? Not performing tasks within their MOS...why would they want to cross train, perform Soldier tasks, prepare for anything? The National Guard was formed as exactly that; the National Guard. These units were utilized, in the beginning, as the Soldiers that would be at home to protect the United States. They are still involved in this mission and within that mission comes training on certain tasks. If you are surprised at the fact that he's performing riot control just ask those truck drivers, administrative clerks, medical personnel, logistics personnel what happens when they are involved in a situation where they are the ones called to kick in a door, stop the locals from breaking the gate down, respond to an IED within their convoy, fight fires, contain floods, deliver food, etc... More often than not, when something happens on a base in a combat zone all of the combat MOS Soldiers are called out to the situation, leaving only those non-combat MOS Soldiers to defend the gates, not to mention that those same Soldiers are asked to fill sand bags, deliver food, clear homes that have flooded; and training must take place for them to do exactly that. Two philosophies of training take place in the Military; train to time and train to standard. The first takes the block of time to train and only trains through that time limit. The second actually takes the training through a crawl, walk, run series of phases. You can't run until you know how to walk perfectly, and you can't walk until you know how to crawl. Don't worry about it until the time comes and then rest assured that those Soldiers that are on the gates know what they are doing. |
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Normal Did you know we have, multi/joint/local/state/national/multi-nation training exercises every year whose sole purpose is to have govt agencies coop for all emergencies??? The focus is usually to control the sheep because w/o control you cannot fix the situation. Oh my god!!!! It has been going on for the past 20 years or so and its gets bigger every year!!!! How can we let this happen????? While the above is true in all accounts, the sacrasm is not. You should be worried about what the government is NOT able to do vice what it is able to do concermning crowd control/supplying help. Localized disturbances are handled by our nation with coop from others (see katrina). Nation wide, SHTF disturbances, not a chance. Do you think the ones "controlling" the people are going to continue to do so when their own families are treated in the same fashion. NOPE. The only way the government can control a large area/crowd is if those people are willing (this scares me more than anything) or the contolling agent has no intrest in the people they control, ie outsiders. There are not enough outsiders willing to try and controll americans by force. YMMV and tinfoil varies of course |
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September 11, 2011 10 year anniversary. a big 10 year anniversary attack is too obvious, so they will not attempt one or maybe they will You should totally be a weather man. You'd be great at it. 
So if you can't trust the Government and you can't trust the local LE, then trust in yourself. Prepare the best you can for the worst and hope for the best. No worries and just let tomorrow come. |
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"Loose lips sink ships"...these words became ever more important in the days that followed WWII where they were born. There are many different views about why they would be performing such training. No word of a deployment...well why would they tell you something that you don't need to know right now? Not performing tasks within their MOS...why would they want to cross train, perform Soldier tasks, prepare for anything? The National Guard was formed as exactly that; the National Guard. These units were utilized, in the beginning, as the Soldiers that would be at home to protect the United States. They are still involved in this mission and within that mission comes training on certain tasks. If you are surprised at the fact that he's performing riot control just ask those truck drivers, administrative clerks, medical personnel, logistics personnel what happens when they are involved in a situation where they are the ones called to kick in a door, stop the locals from breaking the gate down, respond to an IED within their convoy, fight fires, contain floods, deliver food, etc... More often than not, when something happens on a base in a combat zone all of the combat MOS Soldiers are called out to the situation, leaving only those non-combat MOS Soldiers to defend the gates, not to mention that those same Soldiers are asked to fill sand bags, deliver food, clear homes that have flooded; and training must take place for them to do exactly that. Two philosophies of training take place in the Military; train to time and train to standard. The first takes the block of time to train and only trains through that time limit. The second actually takes the training through a crawl, walk, run series of phases. You can't run until you know how to walk perfectly, and you can't walk until you know how to crawl. Don't worry about it until the time comes and then rest assured that those Soldiers that are on the gates know what they are doing. Sir, I was informed he was Army Reserve, and not NG. I am all to familiar with the inner workings of the military as I used to be a professional lawn dart. I'm not freaking out or anything, actually my attitude is business as usual. I was just given this piece of information and thought I'd share. It's perhaps a piece to a larger puzzle? If anyone else would have other pieces to that puzzle, it would be the peeps in here. kar98k, I love that pic! 
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Kar, that cat doesn't look to happy.... ...his tinfoil isn't tight enough
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. Check. Note to self: Get more duct tape. (You are aware this is just a picture I came across on the net and reposted? I think somebody else posted it here on ARFCOM and I saved it to HD. It just sort of seemed appropriate.) 
Just messing with you Bro.... 
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