Posted: 3/4/2011 6:00:20 PM EDT
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Wednesday, I was in my back yard messing with some landscape lights that I had intended on putting on my hog stands. I had them zip tied to my patio chairs, to make sure they actually worked before I drove out the remote property. In one instance of pure stupidity I used my knife to cut the zip ties, cutting toward me. The knife slipped and got my thumb pretty damn bad. Blood was shooting everywhere, like a horror movie.
I run into the house, grab some paper towels. That does absolutely NOTHING, bleeding right through that crap. Wife runs in about to faint at what she is seeing. I tell here to go to my Eberlestock (Operator) and tell her where my kit is and grab it. I tell her to find the bandage that says Quick Clot. (Mine are the bandage not the powder) She finds it and we get it stopped until I get to the ER. Once at the ER the docs remove my good bandage and replace it with gauze. Which is useless again, bleeding right through. This was a HUGE wakeup call for me. I am often hunting and camping in remote areas. Hate to even imagine being way off the grid on a hunt and having a similar cut, and not being able stop the bleeding. The Quick Clot bandage worked as advertised and wasn't in my kit a month ago. One of my best friends gave it to me. I will be getting alot more. 
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| Who doesn't have a scar on their hands from that same lesson. it's a tough one. Learned mine at about 9 years old when I nearly chopped my finger off while camping with the folks in Chippewa national forest and I still have that scar 25 years later... "wittling" seemed so cool when I was 9. |
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Did direct pressure, elevation, and pressure points fail at stopping blood flow? this and add a tourniquet to that list. not trying to be a dick but this type of wound is NOT what QC was designed for. direct pressure and bandage tight. the blood creates a clot that stops the bleeding. in the field we never remove a dressing and just add to it as it bleeds through. thats the point, the blood WILL form a clot between the bandaging and the pressure applied. |
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Did direct pressure, elevation, and pressure points fail at stopping blood flow? this and add a tourniquet to that list. not trying to be a dick but this type of wound is NOT what QC was designed for. direct pressure and bandage tight. the blood creates a clot that stops the bleeding. in the field we never remove a dressing and just add to it as it bleeds through. thats the point, the blood WILL form a clot between the bandaging and the pressure applied. I have never been trained on this stuff. I am a total newbie in treating wounds like this, but my QC bandage worked well for my situation. Tournicate will be added to my list for sure man. |
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I'm glad you didn't go into shock... and pass out with 2 quarts of blood on your shirt.
I carry one of these for a pocket knife... I've got to respect it - or BLEED. 
Off subject, a woman drove off the interstate and into a nearby lake. Her car rolled over to the drivers side in the shallow water. Several people came to help her, but they could not release the seat belt... she died, because NO ONE had a friggin' pocket knife to cut the seat belt. They are under recall, but I still see them for 10 to 12 bucks at Wally World. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07295.html |
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Quoted: Does a borrowed knife count if he is a fellow ARFcomer? http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff124/flytosail/DSC_0715.jpg I've got nearly that same scar. Mine was from a chisel though. |
mine was from a .035 x 4.5 abrasive cut off wheel.......
wedding ring finger....dad watched me do it...  .....asked "how bad".....I looked.....said "stitches".
got to hospital.....nurse was checking it out..... I asked "you guys are going to have to cut that ring off aren't you?" she said "yes" I said "give me a minute".....and took a deep breath.....and pulled.....it was lubed with blood.... The nurse about passed out....  ....aren't endorphins great?
later it hurt like a bitch.... 
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Any word on what the replacement knife from Gerber is? I have one of those things, and it's friggin great. (Though I can see where the issue would come from, I am not stupid enough to try to jab with it to cause the problem in the first place though.) I might go out and buy a few of them if they aren't going to be available. Edit: nevermind, the recall was 2008. Any I have are produced after that. |
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Quoted: I'm glad you didn't go into shock... and pass out with 2 quarts of blood on your shirt. I carry one of these for a pocket knife... I've got to respect it - or BLEED. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07295b.jpg Off subject, a woman drove off the interstate and into a nearby lake. Her car rolled over to the drivers side in the shallow water. Several people came to help her, but they could not release the seat belt... she died, because NO ONE had a friggin' pocket knife to cut the seat belt. They are under recall, but I still see them for 10 to 12 bucks at Wally World. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07295.html I worry about this too, but I also carry a knife every day. I added a Houdini to my truck. I keep mine in the flip down sunglass holder on the ceiling of my truck. This is centrally located so both passenger and driver can access it, and the holder locks in place making it unlikely to open in the event of a rollover or violent accident. http://www.benchmade.com/products/30100 I got mine for around $16, cheap insurance if you ask me. Back to the OP. Do you think superglue would have solved the problem? |
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There was a man in my area that sliced open a femoral artery last year while skinning a deer. I once treated a guy who sliced open his left radial artery with an arrowhead; he was pulling the arrow out of one those deer-shaped targets by pulling with the right hand, left hand braced against the target. Huge slash up his left forearm. He tied his belt around his arm & drove himself to the ER. |
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I'm glad you didn't go into shock... and pass out with 2 quarts of blood on your shirt. I carry one of these for a pocket knife... I've got to respect it - or BLEED. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07295b.jpg Off subject, a woman drove off the interstate and into a nearby lake. Her car rolled over to the drivers side in the shallow water. Several people came to help her, but they could not release the seat belt... she died, because NO ONE had a friggin' pocket knife to cut the seat belt. They are under recall, but I still see them for 10 to 12 bucks at Wally World. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07295.html I worry about this too, but I also carry a knife every day. I added a Houdini to my truck. I keep mine in the flip down sunglass holder on the ceiling of my truck. This is centrally located so both passenger and driver can access it, and the holder locks in place making it unlikely to open in the event of a rollover or violent accident. http://www.benchmade.com/products/30100 I got mine for around $16, cheap insurance if you ask me. Back to the OP. Do you think superglue would have solved the problem? Not sure, have never tried that. It was a constant flow of blood, my kitchen looked like a horror movie scene. 
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Not to belittle the OP, but a couple of 4x4s and a 1" roll of Coban/Vetwrap would have controlled the bleeding, absolutely no need for quickclot. My point of this thread was not really about this particular incident, but the thought of one like it or a worse one when I am in a remote place. I'm sure with enough gauze and pressure I probably could have stopped it. But in a survival situation the quick clot bandage would be key. One bandage and its contained and you can drive yourself to get help. I would of not been able to control it via pressure points and drive had I not used the quick clot bandage. |
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Cut the top off my middle finger the day I got my new Camilis Cuda knife while I was driving.
Was opening and closing it with one hand and the thought struck me I might just close it on my finger -which I immediately proceeded to do. 
Cut the top off, held the top with my thumb and some newspaper and drove to where I had water and some Crazy Glue. Washed it in running water and carefully glued/stitched the top back on leaving a small opening. It healed up quickly and just fine and is still a little numb on top but looking at it it's hard to tell anything much happened to it. 
Gotta love Crazy Glue -the gel is best! And no, it doesn't burn or get hot... 
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Besides, think how much $$$ I saved and other terrible things they could have done to me, not going to the ER room.
All these fancy med kits people write abt here and how often do you hear Crazy Glue mentioned? For us it is right there ahead of fish meds and T-shirt bandages. 
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31A8sofXUxL._SS500_.jpg About 1/10 of the price of Celox or Quick Clot. Amazon description says; Aids in prevention of proud flesh. What is proud flesh? Also says for use in abrasions and capillary bleeding. Is Celox or Quick clot good for venous or arterial bleeds? |
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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31A8sofXUxL._SS500_.jpg About 1/10 of the price of Celox or Quick Clot. Amazon description says; Aids in prevention of proud flesh. What is proud flesh? Also says for use in abrasions and capillary bleeding. Is Celox or Quick clot good for venous or arterial bleeds? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_flesh |
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Directi pressure usually will result in clot formation pretty quickly. Are you taking coumadin, plavix, aspirin, or other anticoagulants? No sir, but I drank the night before.
Drinking the night before wouldn't really affect your ability to form a clot. Now, if you are a frequent drinker, then that is another story. Alcohol will damage the liver, inhibiting production of clotting factors (2,7,9, and 10 IIRC) Anyway, sounds like the quick clot worked well. |
