FUEL CAN ORACLE (Page 38 of 40)
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Anyone know where I can get one of these for less than $60? I have a homemade one that goes into the internal threads but they are getting chewed up and hard to thread. Attached File |
It’s a Jeep thing...
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Just a hair over your price point. https://www.ebay.com/itm/303821843640 |
| Just wanted to pop in and thank everyone for this thread. The 2 10L jerry cans I picked up as a result of this thread came in handy while I was out of power for 3 days after a recent storm. My wife was able to use them while helping to fill the generators. ARFCOM's suggestions of preparedness items helped keep us pretty comfortable. We had hot water, and cold freezers/refrigerators. |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: Just a hair over your price point. https://www.ebay.com/itm/303821843640 Yeah that is probably what I will end up doing. Just sucks to spend that much on a damn nozzle |
It’s a Jeep thing...
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So, $230 shipped for these are decent? https://www.roverparts.com/off-road-accessories/jerry-cans/GJC20BK4/ |
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Originally Posted By Ender875: So, $230 shipped for these are decent? https://www.roverparts.com/off-road-accessories/jerry-cans/GJC20BK4/ Price has gone up but probably the best price you’ll find currently. |
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Originally Posted By Jeff_1: FWIW I have 4 GELG nato cans from jerrycan and they will not take the Wavian nato nozzles. Im pretty bummed about it because those nozzles are awesome on my Wavian nato cans. Haven't really dug into why they won't fit yet or if there is a fix for it. What is causing the fitment issues? |
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| Looks like Jerry cans may be getting harder to get. The prices are WAY up on them. |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: Looks like Jerry cans may be getting harder to get. The prices are WAY up on them. Agreed, it's not easy finding them in stock (at stores). I've been on the prowl for more of those Midwest (Valpro made) metal gas cans and have struck out for the last few months. Harbor Freight no longer carries them, and my local Tractor Supply stores have been out of stock for a very long time. The price also increased from $45 to $55 per can (according to their websites). 
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$22.95 at Coleman’s Military Surplus Sale is this weekend. The price is normally $39.95. |
| Glad I had bought a 4 pack several years ago. Nicer to store at the cabin and stack thab the plastic cans. I just put a magnet on them so I know which order to use then to keep them rotated. Between the generator and wheelers, it's handy to have quite a bit on hand. |
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From the "if it can go wrong, it will" files: did you know the spark arrestor insert might fall INTO a (Midwest metal) jerry can, and become very difficult to remove?  The spark arrestor normally has a lip that keeps it fixed at the mouth of the can. That lip didn't work so well for this can. Further, each arrestor has two protrusions on either side which make it really hard to pull the arrestor out of the can, especially when it's upside down. Took me quite a while to finally get it out. Glad it didn't happen while I was filling up at the gas station. Moral of the story: don't push down too hard on the lip of the spark arrestor while trying to remove it. 
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Originally Posted By kingfish: Any sources for Viton gaskets for the scepter MFC’s? https://jagmte.com/collections/scepter-mfc-accessories |
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| Are there any nozzles for the scepter MFC that fit into a diesel car? The diesel cars have a fill hole a little larger than gasoline, and it Has to be specifically that larger size for the nozzle to be inserted. The high flow scepter nozzle does not fit the standard diesel (and unlock the fill flap) which I own. Are there any nozzles that fit in a diesel automobile? Also, does anyone know what the actual dimension is of the diesel fill hole? If I know what it is, I might be able to just rig my own with tubing. |
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Originally Posted By kingfish: Are there any nozzles for the scepter MFC that fit into a diesel car? The diesel cars have a fill hole a little larger than gasoline, and it Has to be specifically that larger size for the nozzle to be inserted. The high flow scepter nozzle does not fit the standard diesel (and unlock the fill flap) which I own. Are there any nozzles that fit in a diesel automobile? Also, does anyone know what the actual dimension is of the diesel fill hole? If I know what it is, I might be able to just rig my own with tubing. What vehicle? |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: What vehicle? Originally Posted By ColtRifle: Originally Posted By kingfish: Are there any nozzles for the scepter MFC that fit into a diesel car? The diesel cars have a fill hole a little larger than gasoline, and it Has to be specifically that larger size for the nozzle to be inserted. The high flow scepter nozzle does not fit the standard diesel (and unlock the fill flap) which I own. Are there any nozzles that fit in a diesel automobile? Also, does anyone know what the actual dimension is of the diesel fill hole? If I know what it is, I might be able to just rig my own with tubing. What vehicle? It’s a diesel BMW X5. I think the nozzles for the diesel pumps are 15/16 OD but I’m not sure. The high flow scepter MFC nozzles are over an inch OD I think. I believe they’re made for the truck size tank holes (or whatever those fuel ports are called) |
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Originally Posted By kingfish: It’s a diesel BMW X5. I think the nozzles for the diesel pumps are 15/16 OD but I’m not sure. The high flow scepter MFC nozzles are over an inch OD I think. I believe they’re made for the truck size tank holes (or whatever those fuel ports are called) Can you use something like this? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-fueling-adapter-16110440157 |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: Can you use something like this? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-fueling-adapter-16110440157 Originally Posted By ColtRifle: Originally Posted By kingfish: It’s a diesel BMW X5. I think the nozzles for the diesel pumps are 15/16 OD but I’m not sure. The high flow scepter MFC nozzles are over an inch OD I think. I believe they’re made for the truck size tank holes (or whatever those fuel ports are called) Can you use something like this? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-fueling-adapter-16110440157 Yes, that is exactly what fits into the gas hole. I even have one of those. The problem with them is that they spill gas everywhere. You have to go really really slow. I’ve never actually used it though. I was wondering if I could take that cut the tip off and then glue it into the sector, high flow spout. I was just considering going to a hardware store and buying different different width of tubing, seeing if they will fit inside the flow spout, and then gluing them in there |
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Originally Posted By kingfish: Yes, that is exactly what fits into the gas hole. I even have one of those. The problem with them is that they spill gas everywhere. You have to go really really slow. I’ve never actually used it though. I was wondering if I could take that cut the tip off and then glue it into the sector, high flow spout. I was just considering going to a hardware store and buying different different width of tubing, seeing if they will fit inside the flow spout, and then gluing them in there The old vinyl hose spouts work fine for diesel. Use the nozzle funnel to hold the fill open and put the spout inside the funnel. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255236560475 |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: The old vinyl hose spouts work fine for diesel. Use the nozzle funnel to hold the fill open and put the spout inside the funnel. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255236560475 Originally Posted By ColtRifle: Originally Posted By kingfish: Yes, that is exactly what fits into the gas hole. I even have one of those. The problem with them is that they spill gas everywhere. You have to go really really slow. I’ve never actually used it though. I was wondering if I could take that cut the tip off and then glue it into the sector, high flow spout. I was just considering going to a hardware store and buying different different width of tubing, seeing if they will fit inside the flow spout, and then gluing them in there The old vinyl hose spouts work fine for diesel. Use the nozzle funnel to hold the fill open and put the spout inside the funnel. https://www.ebay.com/itm/255236560475 That’s a very good idea. I think what I can do to improve upon that is to find the correct OD/ID tubing capable of opening the door on the diesel hole and adhere it over the spout tube as a sleeve so that I would have only one component to deal with |
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If you're a Harbor Freight inside club member, they have the metal Valpro Midwest Jerry Cans on sale now for $45.00, until January 21st. Attached File https://www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-jerry-can-99551.html The only complaint I see on them is the crappy Midwest spouts and caps, but they can be upgraded by the EZ Pour Offerings. https://ezpourspout.com/product/solid-base-cap-grey/ - 2 Pack https://ezpourspout.com/product-category/spouts/ If buying an EZ-Pour Spout, you'll need the correct replacement Base Plate so: https://ezpourspout.com/product/gray-base-cap/ Would be perfect for simple storage and to use a siphon or pump to transfer with. |
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Atlantic British has Green Wavians for way less than anyone else right now. Same price that they have had the black ones for sale for, about $50/ea. of course, these “aren’t for gas.” Because they don’t have a federally approved gasoline leaking device, but they sale those also. They did charge shipping, but no tax. Ended up being $62 ea for 2, which is better than the $90 they go for with free shipping |
| Two relatives bought 4 packs from Atlantic British. |
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| Slowly working on making our cabin liveable for extended stays. Will be adding more of these shortly to the storage shelf. I've got one that has a finicky locking pin, just need to take the time to bend it a little to get rid of the interference. Otherwise I've been more than happy with them. |
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Originally Posted By g56: Does anyone have any tips or tricks to installing the vent/breather tube on the Scepter MFC? Have a couple used cans with the tubes missing and having the hardest time getting the tubes in If I recall correctly I had a breather tube detach on one of my secpter mfc cans. I don't remember now exactly how I reinstalled the breather tube. Perhaps try using some long needle nose pliers that are curved. I got some pliers like that from Harbor Freight that were not too expensive. I hope this helps. |
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I was playing around on the webs and found this Romain gerry can for sale. I have not ordered any yet so have no experience with the vendor or the cans. Do be aware that they say in their ad that some cans are missing seals. https://www.militarysurplusworld.com/product-eng-42677-METAL-JERRY-CAN-CANISTER-20-L-MILITARY-SURPLUS-ROMANIAN-ARMY-GOOD-CONDITION.html Eta under $22 |
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Originally Posted By PA22-400: I was playing around on the webs and found this Romain gerry can for sale. I have not ordered any yet so have no experience with the vendor or the cans. Do be aware that they say in their ad that some cans are missing seals. https://www.militarysurplusworld.com/product-eng-42677-METAL-JERRY-CAN-CANISTER-20-L-MILITARY-SURPLUS-ROMANIAN-ARMY-GOOD-CONDITION.html Eta under $22 $50 shipping fee PER can. |
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Any thoughts on using buna-n for MFC gaskets? Pre-made viton gaskets are expensive ($9) and a 12x12x1/8 sheet of buna-n is $10. Buna-n is gasoline resistant and better performing in the cold. "Fixing" MFCs in bulk is kinda expensive. Looking at $120 in flanges and $50 in gaskets. |
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Originally Posted By 302w: Any thoughts on using buna-n for MFC gaskets? Pre-made viton gaskets are expensive ($9) and a 12x12x1/8 sheet of buna-n is $10. Buna-n is gasoline resistant and better performing in the cold. "Fixing" MFCs in bulk is kinda expensive. Looking at $120 in flanges and $50 in gaskets. We have or had a guy on this forum that made gaskets. I bought from him...good product no drama. He made mfc gaskets and fixit gaskets. I've since gone through a lot of personal life and cannot remember the mans name. I expect he has posted in this thread. You would need to read all the pages though I moved on to NATO cans and put a hard halt to mfc drama. |
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Originally Posted By PA22-400: We have or had a guy on this forum that made gaskets. I bought from him...good product no drama. He made mfc gaskets and fixit gaskets. I've since gone through a lot of personal life and cannot remember the mans name. I expect he has posted in this thread. You would need to read all the pages though I moved on to NATO cans and put a hard halt to mfc drama. I might be wrong but I think it was vatopa. No idea if he still makes them or not and not certain he’s the right guy….but I think so. I also moved on from MFC cans to NATO cans. I like the MFC cans but the caps are the weak point. I still have a few but have relegated them to back up use. |
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I ended up buying four surplus small mouth NATO cans from Coleman's with a $15 spout. With tax, shipping and a 20% coupon it came to $180 total. ($40/can full price) Spout is garbage. Do not buy. These are the cans I received. Three of them are dated 3-1952 (unknown manufacturer) and one is dated 1954 FFA S.E.M. (which is French... gross). Is this a better buy than Wavians? I don't know.   Also came with this cool packing paper. Anyone know what this is? 
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I'll actually go so far as to reccomend NOT buying surplus NATO cans. Attached is a photo of a new Valpro spout on my 1952 "F" marked can. The spout vent is too big for the breather tube and won't mount. It will mount on my 1954 "FFA" but I'm unsure if it will work. My 2000 Valpro "BUND" can doesn't have this issue and appears to be equivalent to Wavian. So the 1952 and maybe 1954 cans need the crappy aftermarket style can that doesn't have a real vent. Overall, I wish I bought the 4/$200 deal from Atlantic British.  |
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Originally Posted By 302w: I'll actually go so far as to reccomend NOT buying surplus NATO cans. Attached is a photo of a new Valpro spout on my 1952 "F" marked can. The spout vent is too big for the breather tube and won't mount. It will mount on my 1954 "FFA" but I'm unsure if it will work. My 2000 Valpro "BUND" can doesn't have this issue and appears to be equivalent to Wavian. So the 1952 and maybe 1954 cans need the crappy aftermarket style can that doesn't have a real vent. Overall, I wish I bought the 4/$200 deal from Atlantic British. https://i.imgur.com/Nt7OSJk.jpeg I have a handful of older cans but most of mine are new from Atlantic British or some new cans I bought years ago from Deutsche Optik. https://deutscheoptik.com/products/set-of-four-20-liter-jerry-can?_pos=2&_sid=6d45abea1&_ss=r |
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Originally Posted By 302w: I ended up buying four surplus small mouth NATO cans from Coleman's with a $15 spout. With tax, shipping and a 20% coupon it came to $180 total. ($40/can full price) Spout is garbage. Do not buy. These are the cans I received. Three of them are dated 3-1952 (unknown manufacturer) and one is dated 1954 FFA S.E.M. (which is French... gross). Is this a better buy than Wavians? I don't know. https://i.imgur.com/4jpGzBC.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/1puxtOE.jpeg Also came with this cool packing paper. Anyone know what this is? https://i.imgur.com/geSSZ3N.jpeg I have four of those Coleman’s surplus cans and repainted them they so far are good to go for my storage. That packing material is a light machine gun qualification target. |
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Thread in GD reminded me to post this here : Scepter Pre-Ban Fuel Can  |
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Coleman’s- Sale ends 9/03/2024 In case anyone is interested. Code LABOR20, listed at top of the webpage. Sold as is, no returns. Shipping might be a bitch, based on my experience. |
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Originally Posted By 302w: I ended up buying four surplus small mouth NATO cans from Coleman's with a $15 spout. With tax, shipping and a 20% coupon it came to $180 total. ($40/can full price) Spout is garbage. Do not buy. These are the cans I received. Three of them are dated 3-1952 (unknown manufacturer) and one is dated 1954 FFA S.E.M. (which is French... gross). Is this a better buy than Wavians? I don't know. https://i.imgur.com/4jpGzBC.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/1puxtOE.jpeg Also came with this cool packing paper. Anyone know what this is? https://i.imgur.com/geSSZ3N.jpeg Once upon a time, a very long time ago, I qualified with the German Army on the German MG-3 (MG42), G3, and P1 to earn the German Army Schuztenschnur Medal. I'm pretty sure that I fired the MG-3 at that tombstone target table. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_Badge_of_Marksmanship  |
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I ordered 2 cans from Coleman’s. Twice. There was a very cheap ups ground shipping option for me, might want to check it out if you’re on the fence. The Labor Day discount code is good for a couple more hours. The two cans I received are acceptable to me. Best method to clean them up? Wire brush to the rusty areas and then scuff up with sandpaper, then spray paint? Any recommendations for proper paint? Attached File Attached File This is the worst of them, the other sides of the cans aren’t so bad. |
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I'd use a urethane or epoxy paint. It needs to be gasoline resistant. |
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Originally Posted By savage_winchester: I ordered 2 cans from Coleman’s. Twice. There was a very cheap ups ground shipping option for me, might want to check it out if you’re on the fence. The Labor Day discount code is good for a couple more hours. The two cans I received are acceptable to me. Best method to clean them up? Wire brush to the rusty areas and then scuff up with sandpaper, then spray paint? Any recommendations for proper paint? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/120295/IMG_6260_jpeg-3312610.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/120295/IMG_6262_jpeg-3312611.JPG This is the worst of them, the other sides of the cans aren’t so bad. The shipping, for me, was more than the costs of the cans. BTW, Atlantic British has free shipping until midnight. Just ordered five more. |
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Originally Posted By DieselII: Thread in GD reminded me to post this here : Scepter Pre-Ban Fuel Can https://cdn.kimpex.com/web/364/660/660348_OTH2.jpg?v=0 Most interesting thing I have seen in US available fuel cans in years right here….Scepter poly cans with molded in vents and caps! No rinky dink drilling a vent hole in your stupid anti spill CARB can- an actual vented can! If only I wasn’t already pretty flush with the non-vented Scepter poly cans, and MFC’s… |
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Originally Posted By tac556: Most interesting thing I have seen in US available fuel cans in years right here….Scepter poly cans with molded in vents and caps! No rinky dink drilling a vent hole in your stupid anti spill CARB can- an actual vented can! If only I wasn’t already pretty flush with the non-vented Scepter poly cans, and MFC’s… Yeah these are great short of the actual MFCs. I have a bunch and will probably get more. |