Posted: 12/11/2010 2:20:05 PM EDT
| I have bought several 5gal. kerosene containers(blue plastic) for lamp oil. Are these acceptable? Is there a better storage method? I am planning on filling them as full as possible to limit condensation. I am wondering if there is a better way to limit condensation and if there are any additives I need to add for long term storage. Any help greatly appreciated. |
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Get rid of the plastic containers, they are oxygen permeable and your fuel will turn to varnish. Get sealed steel cans, fill them to 80% full, cap it, and forget it.
Kerosene needs no stabilizer, biocide, Sta-bil, or anything else. I've never treated kerosene, and I've used several year old kero with not problems. Ops |
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My sons both ride high performance quads, and by their race fuel in 5 gallons steel "jugs" about the size of a 5 gal. paint bucket. They have resealable lids.
I use them for lamp oil storage and coleman fuel storage. I keep the empty steel 1 gallon coleman cans because it is easier to pour out of them than trying to use the 5ers when aiming into a little funnel in a coleman lantern or oil lamp. I'll fill the 1 gal. containers out of the 5'er for pouring. |
| are you planing on using K1 in the lamps or actual lamp oil like the 100% pure paraffin? "several" 5 gal containers would last you and your kids a lifetime. i have seen test done that 1/2gal burned for over 150 hours. so even one 5 gal container would last you 1500 hours+ thats over 130 days of burning 12h a day. dont forget wicks to go along with the fuel. |
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I use a galvanized steel lamp oil can which I have no idea with the new regulations what they call them now.
Its basically a metal can with a built in spout for pouring into lamps or machines, we use to just call them farm fuel cans. The center top has a screwed on lid, then the spout is off to one side and much smaller. It was heck to find, but will worth the effort. We use out lamps a lot this time of year to take the edge off the chill. Tj |
I cleaned out my garage a week or so ago and found several of the pint size and 1 half gallon size plastic bottle of "lamp oil." when I picked up the half gallon bottle, the bottom split because the plastic had become brittle. Luckily, only a little spilled; mostly on me. 
I think the bottle were about 5 years old and have been sitting on a shelf, out of direct sunlight, in an enclosed garage in Florida. Choose your containers wisely. 
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I cleaned out my garage a week or so ago and found several of the pint size and 1 half gallon size plastic bottle of "lamp oil." when I picked up the half gallon bottle, the bottom split because the plastic had become brittle. Luckily, only a little spilled; mostly on me.
I think the bottle were about 5 years old and have been sitting on a shelf, out of direct sunlight, in an enclosed garage in Florida. Choose your containers wisely.
Yep, that's how I got my metal can. The one that broke on me was Wheems and Plath the expensive Marine liquid parrafin lamp fuel. |
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I did this for work once needing a can for a special need.
Go to a body shop that does a fair amount or repainting. Ask them to save you cans with caps, usually they'll have gallon cans very like the coleman fuel cans for solvents like MEK, acetone, toluene etc. That stuff volailizes (evaporates) quickly. Let that evaporate outdoors! A little residue that the shop may leave would be gone in hours. Then you'll have a near perfectly clean can for your lamp oil. They usually don't mind giving you the cans, it's garbage to them. You'll need a funnel to use these cans. You could also use the quart sized cans if you want. I tend to use them more in woodworking/finishing. I buy paint thinner/Mineral spirits, alcohol, etc. in them. |
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Grandma always used a old aluminum tea pot to fill the lamps , the big opening made it easy to fill. Quoted: Considering using some of the 16oz. Al beer bottles. Not sure if they have a twist cap but if so, would be easy to use and pour from. Considered using 40oz. beer bottles, but the glass would be a breakage hazard. |
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Get rid of the plastic containers, they are oxygen permeable and your fuel will turn to varnish. Get sealed steel cans, fill them to 80% full, cap it, and forget it. Kerosene needs no stabilizer, biocide, Sta-bil, or anything else. I've never treated kerosene, and I've used several year old kero with not problems. Ops Although that happens quickly with gasoline, it'll take a while with kerosene. I have a couple of lamps that I keep filled with kerosene. Seven or so years....no varnish. |
Good thread––I'm glad I found this as I have several plastic bottles of lamp oil (paraffin) that are several years old. I found these...
...at the Yankee Container online store. They're 1 gallon, tin F-style cans. While they're inexpensive at 4.831 each, the minimum order is $100.
Of course, they have lots of useful containers, so that may or may not prove to be a problem depending on your needs. Finally, I've never ordered from these folks, so I can't speak to their service, etc. Maybe someone else has dealt with them and will share their experience... |
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You know thats the same can colman fuel and alot of paint thiners come in ... you know any body that paints or does handyman stuff? Quoted: Good thread––I'm glad I found this as I have several plastic bottles of lamp oil (paraffin) that are several years old. I found these... http://www.yankeecontainers.com/Items/Pictures/Small/BSI-6210776.jpg ...at the Yankee Container online store. They're 1 gallon, tin F-style cans. While they're inexpensive at 4.831 each, the minimum order is $100. Of course, they have lots of useful containers, so that may or may not prove to be a problem depending on your needs. Finally, I've never ordered from these folks, so I can't speak to their service, etc. Maybe someone else has dealt with them and will share their experience... |
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You know thats the same can colman fuel and alot of paint thiners come in ... you know any body that paints or does handyman stuff? Quoted:
Good thread––I'm glad I found this as I have several plastic bottles of lamp oil (paraffin) that are several years old. I found these... http://www.yankeecontainers.com/Items/Pictures/Small/BSI-6210776.jpg ...at the Yankee Container online store. They're 1 gallon, tin F-style cans. While they're inexpensive at 4.831 each, the minimum order is $100.
Of course, they have lots of useful containers, so that may or may not prove to be a problem depending on your needs. Finally, I've never ordered from these folks, so I can't speak to their service, etc. Maybe someone else has dealt with them and will share their experience... (edited) Yep. Personally though, I don't use that much paint thinner/Coleman fuel/whatever, so I would happily pay for the can itself to store something that I would use, but that comes in containers that aren't good over the long term. YMMV. Never mind. I mis-read what you wrote. I do know plenty of folks who do use this sort of can, and I'll be asking them about this shortly. 
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Good thread––I'm glad I found this as I have several plastic bottles of lamp oil (paraffin) that are several years old. I found these... http://www.yankeecontainers.com/Items/Pictures/Small/BSI-6210776.jpg ...at the Yankee Container online store. They're 1 gallon, tin F-style cans. While they're inexpensive at 4.831 each, the minimum order is $100.
Of course, they have lots of useful containers, so that may or may not prove to be a problem depending on your needs. Finally, I've never ordered from these folks, so I can't speak to their service, etc. Maybe someone else has dealt with them and will share their experience... Go to your bulk oil distributer. I called one a few weeks ago and they said a 5 gallon cans were about $6. That's what kero from various places often comes in. |
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Get rid of the plastic containers, they are oxygen permeable and your fuel will turn to varnish. Get sealed steel cans, fill them to 80% full, cap it, and forget it. Kerosene needs no stabilizer, biocide, Sta-bil, or anything else. I've never treated kerosene, and I've used several year old kero with not problems. Ops This. I still have a 55 gal sealed drum from 1998 filled w/K-1. Works just fine. Remember to inspect the drum for rust and paint it! 
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Good thread––I'm glad I found this as I have several plastic bottles of lamp oil (paraffin) that are several years old. I found these... http://www.yankeecontainers.com/Items/Pictures/Small/BSI-6210776.jpg ...at the Yankee Container online store. They're 1 gallon, tin F-style cans. While they're inexpensive at 4.831 each, the minimum order is $100.
Of course, they have lots of useful containers, so that may or may not prove to be a problem depending on your needs. Finally, I've never ordered from these folks, so I can't speak to their service, etc. Maybe someone else has dealt with them and will share their experience... armygear.net has these for $2ea. Look to be just like a coleman fuel can. http://www.armygear.net/ag/store/00094.html - JP |
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Good thread––I'm glad I found this as I have several plastic bottles of lamp oil (paraffin) that are several years old. I found these... http://www.yankeecontainers.com/Items/Pictures/Small/BSI-6210776.jpg ...at the Yankee Container online store. They're 1 gallon, tin F-style cans. While they're inexpensive at 4.831 each, the minimum order is $100.
Of course, they have lots of useful containers, so that may or may not prove to be a problem depending on your needs. Finally, I've never ordered from these folks, so I can't speak to their service, etc. Maybe someone else has dealt with them and will share their experience... armygear.net has these for $2ea. Look to be just like a coleman fuel can. http://www.armygear.net/ag/store/00094.html - JP Awesome––thanks! I just ordered a few... |