Posted: 11/26/2010 2:00:13 PM EDT
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So, after slowly increasing wha we have on hand, and then losing much of it during an inter-continental move, I need to start getting back prepping in a big way. Mrs. Monkey invited some family who were having some very hard times to come live with us, and I was ok with that, but now it seems they aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and their income goes to their son, and they now have one on the way as well.  Well, now WE have one on the way  and to me that means prepping like wildfire for (now) 4 adults, and 3 children. So I need some extra eyes on my (insanely huge) list of preps that need increasing, or purchasing for the first time.List re-compiled into categories by Fixer. Thanks a ton!  Storage Food Apple Slices Beans-Black Beans-Lentils Beans-Pinto Beans-White Butter-Powder Cheese somehow (powder?) Corn-Dent Coffee-Green Egg-Powdered Garlic Powder Honey Lard Macaroni Milk-Dry Oats Oil Onions-Dry Pepper Potato Flakes Potato Pearls Rice-White Salt Soup-Dehydrated Spaghetti Sugar Vinegar-Malt Vinegar-White Wheat-Hard Red Wheat-White Yeast Food Prep Cast Iron Dutch Oven Cast Iron pan (large) Cider Press Coffee-French Press/Percolator Coffee Grinder-Manual Dehydrator Mylar Bags O2 Absorbers Pressure Canner Slicer Grain Mill Soap-Dish Misc Food Prep Camping Oven Canning Jars Food Storage Boxes Garden Seeds Outdoor cooking fire pit Wood Stove Water Pool Shock Portable Filter Water Can Arms Brass Bullets Pistol Pistol Ammunition Pistol Magazines Powder Primers Reloading Dies Reloading Press Rifle Rifle Ammunition Rifle Magazines Safety Glasses Shooting Gloves (really??? skip the magnum calibers) I had meant gloves for shooting in winter/inclement weather, poorly stated by me. Shotgun Shotgun Ammunition Spotting Scope Suppressors Knives let's not forget training! Armor Body Armor Plate Carrier Manual Tools Axe Hand Tools-Misc Hatchets machetes Sharpening Stone Sledge Hammer Gloves-Leather Garden Tools Infants baby wipes (ok, not just for infants) diaper pins cloth diapers baby powder (useful for sweaty feet too, preventing foot issues) A&D cream BABY MEDS- baby/childrens' tylenol, with oral syringe baby thermometer Pedialyte (should have electrolyte solution on hand anyway) topical gel for teething (stuck in the house due to disaster and two teething babies? Welcome to hell!) baby soap/shampoo (normal stuff is too strong on a baby) Battery Powered Stuff Flashlights Batteries Radio-Battery Powered Lantern-LED micro solar charger Fuel and related items Diesel Gasoline Gas Stabilizer Generator Kerosine Heater Kerosene Lantern Lantern-Wicks or Mantles Sanitation Soap-Hand Soap-Laundry Tampons Toilet Paper Toothbrushes Washboard Misc Back Packs Sleeping Bags Firewood First Aid gear Gloves-thermal Vehicle Maint. items Winter Clothing Wool Socks Anything glaring that I am missing? I know this is a HUGE undertaking to now prep for what amounts to 2 families, but they live here now, and if SHTF they are using my preps. |
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"Mrs. Monkey invited some family who were having some very hard times to come live with us, and I was ok with that, but now it seems they aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and their income goes to their son, and they now have one on the way as well. "
This deserves a thread of its own...
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"Mrs. Monkey invited some family who were having some very hard times to come live with us, and I was ok with that, but now it seems they aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and their income goes to their son, and they now have one on the way as well. " This deserves a thread of its own... Ill say... Ops |
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Quoted: There's been a big thread on the importance of nightvision... I'd skip the press and put the $$$ toward that. Also warm clothing. I'm a little surprised by this actually, trade a reloading set up for NV... I love NV, I used to use it all the time. I reeeaaalllly want a GEN3 but I'll never use it outside SHTF i don't think. With a press I'll be able to "save" money on ammo, particularly on that 45-70 I "need" for my birthday, lol. Why do you see NV as a higher priority? Quoted: Quoted: "Mrs. Monkey invited some family who were having some very hard times to come live with us, and I was ok with that, but now it seems they aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and their income goes to their son, and they now have one on the way as well. " This deserves a thread of its own... Ill say... Ops Long-story-short is after much heated discussion and a LOT of me laying out ground rules, the Mrs. invited her younger brother, his wife, and their almost 2 year old to live with us. We had just moved to Washington from Hawaii. The house we bought is 4 bed 2 bath and a loft over the garage. Not as much land as I wanted, but we got a helluva deal, and we needed housing like now, now, now. So, with just her and I, (and the 4 dogs, but that's another story ) in the house it wasn't too hard to fit them in. They're young, and immature, but living with us is a HUGE step up from the drama that was being caused in my wife's family while they were living with them. I wanted to give them a chance to get on their feet, like was once given to me by some dear friends. I believe in paying it forward. However, once they were here, I found out she had just gotten pregnant with their second.  My sister just gave them her old car free and clear, so after some routine fixing up they'll at least have their own transportation. Unfortunately they are the very people that drive me nuts, living paycheck to paycheck, WIC, Foodstamps, the whole 9 yards. I'd love for them to move out, grow up, and do for themselves, but that isn't happening any time soon. So in the mean time, I have to prep for us all. My wife gets it, but doesn't like how much money it takes to prep adequately. I have our budgeting set up so we both have money for an allowance, to spend on whatever we want. And starting January $300 a month for food preps, in addition to what really amounts to all of my allowance going to guns, ammo, First aid  , etc. |
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For 2011, my number 1 priority is to expand my group.
I have been in talks with my ex Wife and her Husband, crazy thing is we did not work as a team when we were married but divorced we are great. In fact my wife and I are god parents to her daughter with her new husband and in case of any emergencies we legally have accepted the obligation of raising her. We have been talking and looks like we will expand the group by adding my ex, her husband, their daughter and my son ( I already count him in my preps as we have 50/50 custody and live 2.2 miles apart.) they also have a great 9 month old GSD that has been doing very well in training. We will be making a $300 a month commitmnet each family, to buy and set up preps. This makes it easier to buy bigger items and bulk foods.They are quite abit behind so it looks like they may be throwing a nice large chunk of cash upfront ($2500-$3500) to try and get a good start. We are also looking to add 1 other family close to our AO and set up my parents that are 55 miles to the south of me. The goal with my folks is get oragnized enough to be able to get north to our home. Medical Supplies: I am taking 3 different classes over the next year. My BiL is a First Responder and am taking some agency courses. Food, Food, Food..... LDS Cannery and Bishops Supply House Clothing: with 3 kids they grow out of clothes quickly Shoes/Boots: see above Weapons: my oldest is 11.5 he will be moving from a 10/22 to a lightweight carbine AR15 with iron sites, my middle boy is 9 and will get the 10/22, each of them are getting a new knife for Christmas Vehicles: Both of my cars will be padi off within 6 months. Then I am buying 1992-1998 Jeep Cherokee (square body) and a small pull behind trailer Firewwod: 5 cords this year, we use 1 per Winter Genarator: I need to do some learning on this, I know that is a purchase that will happen mid year I am sure there is alot more that will come up shortly, being tryingto prep for about 4 years now, I have learned that you are nebver done and never really prepared. |
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"Mrs. Monkey invited some family who were having some very hard times to come live with us, and I was ok with that, but now it seems they aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and their income goes to their son, and they now have one on the way as well. " This deserves a thread of its own... BIRTH FREAKIN CONTROLL FOR THE FOLKS WHO NEED ASSISTANCE.............IE YOU WANNA STAY HERE NORPLAN OR IUD.............YOU WANNA PROCREATE LIKE A BUNNY GO DIG A HOLE AND LIVE LIKE ONE |
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Vehicle maintenance items such as oil, oil filters, air filters, spare belts and windshield fluid.
Storage of gasoline, heating oil, propane and diesel fuel. Spare parts for power tools such as chainsaw chains, bar, bar oil, sharpening files, air filters. Garden hand tools, rakes shovels etc. Misc tools and accessories such as hammers, hand saw, roofing square, screw drivers, assorted tarps, nails, screws Animal feed if you have them Firewood if you use it I think the list would be endless depending upon your individual skill sets and needs but perhaps looking at it as prepping for multiple topics. such as food prep, home or shelter prep,security, vehicle and critter prep is a way to break it all down to something a bit more managable. |
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Quoted: For 2011, my number 1 priority is to expand my group. I have been in talks with my ex Wife and her Husband, crazy thing is we did not work as a team when we were married but divorced we are great. In fact my wife and I are god parents to her daughter with her new husband and in case of any emergencies we legally have accepted the obligation of raising her. We have been talking and looks like we will expand the group by adding my ex, her husband, their daughter and my son ( I already count him in my preps as we have 50/50 custody and live 2.2 miles apart.) they also have a great 9 month old GSD that has been doing very well in training. We will be making a $300 a month commitmnet each family, to buy and set up preps. This makes it easier to buy bigger items and bulk foods.They are quite abit behind so it looks like they may be throwing a nice large chunk of cash upfront ($2500-$3500) to try and get a good start. We are also looking to add 1 other family close to our AO and set up my parents that are 55 miles to the south of me. The goal with my folks is get oragnized enough to be able to get north to our home. Medical Supplies: I am taking 3 different classes over the next year. My BiL is a First Responder and am taking some agency courses. Food, Food, Food..... LDS Cannery and Bishops Supply House Clothing: with 3 kids they grow out of clothes quickly Shoes/Boots: see above Weapons: my oldest is 11.5 he will be moving from a 10/22 to a lightweight carbine AR15 with iron sites, my middle boy is 9 and will get the 10/22, each of them are getting a new knife for Christmas Vehicles: Both of my cars will be padi off within 6 months. Then I am buying 1992-1998 Jeep Cherokee (square body) and a small pull behind trailer Firewwod: 5 cords this year, we use 1 per Winter Genarator: I need to do some learning on this, I know that is a purchase that will happen mid year I am sure there is alot more that will come up shortly, being tryingto prep for about 4 years now, I have learned that you are nebver done and never really prepared. For sure, a group would be great, I have met a handful of people who prep, and an even smaller number of them seem to me to be people that I would want around my family during hard times  Food is one thing that I am stocking up on as fast as I can, prices are going up, and our house will soon have 2 more mouths that need feeding. I hadnt thought about how fast kids grow out of clothing as this is our first, that is a very good point! The cars, and all credit cards will be paid off in another year or so. Firewood, I know we're lacking there, I didn't get a chance to go harvest it out of the National Forest this year. Quoted: Vehicle maintenance items such as oil, oil filters, air filters, spare belts and windshield fluid. Storage of gasoline, heating oil, propane and diesel fuel. Spare parts for power tools such as chainsaw chains, bar, bar oil, sharpening files, air filters. Garden hand tools, rakes shovels etc. Misc tools and accessories such as hammers, hand saw, roofing square, screw drivers, assorted tarps, nails, screws Animal feed if you have them Firewood if you use it I think the list would be endless depending upon your individual skill sets and needs but perhaps looking at it as prepping for multiple topics. such as food prep, home or shelter prep,security, vehicle and critter prep is a way to break it all down to something a bit more manageable. The list is indeed endless, I did end up breaking everything down into manageable chunks. Maintenance items for the truck are something I overlooked, thanks for that  |
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"Mrs. Monkey invited some family who were having some very hard times to come live with us, and I was ok with that, but now it seems they aren't going anywhere anytime soon, and their income goes to their son, and they now have one on the way as well. " This deserves a thread of its own... BIRTH FREAKIN CONTROLL FOR THE FOLKS WHO NEED ASSISTANCE.............IE YOU WANNA STAY HERE NORPLAN OR IUD.............YOU WANNA PROCREATE LIKE A BUNNY GO DIG A HOLE AND LIVE LIKE ONE Before you start ranting about birth control, have a clue about what's actually available. Norplant was discontinued in the US some years ago. It's now used mainly in developing countries where you can't sue over bad shelf life or nasty side effects. Also, how about a word about the man's role in this? Women don't get pregnant by themselves. 
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Has OPSEC been discussed with the "guests"? This would be the best question, If they talk, regardless of what you do, your boned. With the facts of their current activities, Id bet they wouldn't be able to understand what opsec is. If he can't manage to keep a condom on, and she can't manage to take a pill daily, take a shot, IUD, or Nuva ring. You may very well have a large problem and the plan to get them out by summer would be best. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Has OPSEC been discussed with the "guests"? This would be the best question, If they talk, regardless of what you do, your boned. With the facts of their current activities, Id bet they wouldn't be able to understand what opsec is. If he can't manage to keep a condom on, and she can't manage to take a pill daily, take a shot, IUD, or Nuva ring. You may very well have a large problem and the plan to get them out by summer would be best. Everything of a sensitive nature resides in a secure area that can only be accessed from a locked door in my bedroom. As far as Opsec, we have talked about not talking about our house. I have made it clear, in no uncertain terms, that they are here on my graces. Being a .Mil family we take Opsec seriously, I drill it in constantly that what happens in the Monkey house, STAYS in the Monkey house. |
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Wool Blankets. Definitely the warmest thing going and make an improvised sleeping bag.
How to- Set the blanket in a diamond shape (not square) Lay on it with your feet and head positioned in opposing corners pull the end by your feet up over your feet Wrap one side over, then the other Pull the corner by your head over your head like a hood Sleep like a baby This was shown to me during a survival course and it is an extremely effective way of keeping warm with a wool blanket. Not seen it posted here before so OP you should also think of ways to boost morale in the little ones. Candy, gum, toys, games books. Whatever is cool and on sale would be huge. Then just rotate it out at christmas, birthdays etc |
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a big +1 on resorting the list into subcategories instead of all one alpha lump.
because of budget constraints, some things will probably need to be on the back burner, supressors for example. nice to have, but you want the basics covered first. things like food can be added a little at a time, every grocery run. you don't need to buy one megaload to cover that. not knowing if your location is rural or suburban makes it a little hard to recommend on prioritizing weapons. but in general, the closer someone is, the more of a threat they are. so unless you're on a large rance with open fields, etc. pistols will probably be more important than rifles. no clue what you have now... so no clue what the biggest holes in the preps are. |
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ok, i was bored so i sorted this ut a bit, added a few things, and renamed a few things, so all the beans show up to gether, both kinds of wheat, three or four kinds of soap, etc.
Storage Food Apple Slices Beans-Black Beans-Lentils Beans-Pinto Beans-White Butter-Powder Cheese somehow (powder?) Corn-Dent Coffee-Green Egg-Powdered Garlic Powder Honey Lard Macaroni Milk-Dry Oats Oil Onions-Dry Pepper Potato Flakes Potato Pearls Rice-White Salt Soup-Dehydrated Spaghetti Sugar Vinegar-Malt Vinegar-White Wheat-Hard Red Wheat-White Yeast Food Prep Cast Iron Dutch Oven Cast Iron pan (large) Cider Press Coffee-French Press/Percolator Coffee Grinder-Manual Dehydrator Mylar Bags O2 Absorbers Pressure Canner Slicer Grain Mill Soap-Dish Misc Food Prep Camping Oven Canning Jars Food Storage Boxes Garden Seeds Outdoor cooking fire pit Wood Stove Water Pool Shock Portable Filter Water Can Arms Brass Bullets Pistol Pistol Ammunition Pistol Magazines Powder Primers Reloading Dies Reloading Press Rifle Rifle Ammunition Rifle Magazines Safety Glasses Shooting Gloves (really??? skip the magnum calibers) Shotgun Shotgun Ammunition Spotting Scope Suppressors Knives let's not forget traiing! Armor Body Armor Plate Carrier Manual Tools Axe Hand Tools-Misc Hatchets machetes Sharpening Stone Sledge Hammer Gloves-Leather Garden Tools Infants baby wipes (ok, not just for infants) diaper pins cloth diapers Battery Powered Stuff Flashlights Batteries Radio-Battery Powered Lantern-LED micro solar charger Fuel and related items Diesel Gasoline Gas Stabilizer Generator Kerosine Heater Kerosene Lantern Lantern-Wicks or Mantles Sanitation Soap-Hand Soap-Laundry Tampons Toilet Paper Toothbrushes Washboard Misc Back Packs Sleeping Bags Firewood First Aid gear Gloves-thermal Vehicle Maint. items Winter Clothing Wool Socks |
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just some further thoughts on this.
while you say "rifle, handgun and shotgun" you haven't said what types you're looking at, or if the SG is for home defense, hunting, both. haven't listed a .22 rifle for small game and perhaps inexpensive practice, and the same for a .22pistol, or conversion. depending on your area, snares and traps may be an option for small to midsize game, and fishing may be an option. as an example, if you choose to go with small but concealable handguns, (Glock 19s or 23s for example) and ARs for rifles you could be looking at roughly the following. handguns 4x Glock 19/23 $500 each, $2,000 total 4x Glock 19/23 mags + 12x 17/22 mags ≈$20 each $320 total (gives you a total of 3 flush fit mags, and 3 slightly extended mags per gun... assuming that each gun comes with two mags) 4x Kydex holsters ≈$60 each $240 total 4x mag carriers ≈$20 each, $80 total 4x Surefire G2 LED lights $50 each, $200 total 4x 12 packs of spare batteries for above ≈$20 each, $80 total that's ≈$2920 just on the handguns with relatively few mags, no ammo in the budget, no mounted lights or .22 conversions. $80 in ammo should load one mag and a spare for each gun with decent JHPs, bring you to an estimated, even $3,000 before training or training ammo, CCW permits, etc. optional: 1 Advantage Arms conversion ≈$250, plus 2 spare mags at $25 each $300 total. add more kits later when budget permits. optional: future purchase or weapon mounted lights ≈$100 to $250 each, plus holsters to fit light with gun mounted $varies. rifles 2x M4gery-style AR 15 with flat top and MOE handguards with rail mounted for light ≈$1,000 each 16x 30rd mags $8 to $15 each. IF you build up the guns you'll save the 11% excise tax. IF you go with 5.45 uppers your ammo costs will be roughly 1/3 the cost of 5.56 additional needs: ammo, cleaning gear, spare parts, slings, lights, training, mag carriers––belt mounted kydex, chest rig, vest or other web gear. many options from low profile to full battle rattle. but on a starter budget i'd suggest something like a Spectre Gear chest rig and some belt mounted pouches. in the future, you can upgrade the nylon gear, add a red dot, get more ammo, etc. when the budget permits. the 5.45 upper will NOT allow the use of a drop in .22 conversion, so perhaps take a look at a S&W 15-22 for training and small game. those are about $400 depending on model and $15 per mag. a 10/22 or a bolt action .22 is also an option, but neither will be a training "understudy" for the AR. doesn't mean you can't have other .22s if you find something nice for a decent price and the budget permits. double all this and get rifles for the wives when the budget permits. do you need a heavier caliber for hunting or long range? i don't have any details to even guess about that for now. Shotgun Mossberg M500 with a long barrel for hunting and a short barrel for home defense. probably ≈$250 used (for a two barrel setup, less with just one barrel). well, that 's just an overview of A way to break it down, not the only way. if you want XDs or M&Ps or something else the mag prices will probably be slightly more on the handguns and not everything has .22 conversions available. Ruger P series guns will be cheaper, but they're somewhat bulky and not the easiest to conceal. SIG P250s are ≈$400, but mags are more expensive, and holster choices may be more limited. work at it one step at a time and eventually you'll get there. |
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Quoted: Wool Blankets. Definitely the warmest thing going and make an improvised sleeping bag. How to- Set the blanket in a diamond shape (not square) Lay on it with your feet and head positioned in opposing corners pull the end by your feet up over your feet Wrap one side over, then the other Pull the corner by your head over your head like a hood Sleep like a baby This was shown to me during a survival course and it is an extremely effective way of keeping warm with a wool blanket. Not seen it posted here before so OP you should also think of ways to boost morale in the little ones. Candy, gum, toys, games books. Whatever is cool and on sale would be huge. Then just rotate it out at christmas, birthdays etc Wool Blankets are a good call, I haven't seen this method of wrapping up I'll have to give it a try. I forgot about keeping little spirits up, I'm new to this kid thing, still don't know how I feel about it, Don't really like kids, but I'm told that will change when they're born. Quoted: ok, i was bored so i sorted this ut a bit, added a few things, and renamed a few things, so all the beans show up to gether, both kinds of wheat, three or four kinds of soap, etc. This is outstanding, better then the list I was working on! I'm going to amend this into the OP as it is much better organized than my alphabetized list Quoted: just some further thoughts on this. while you say "rifle, handgun and shotgun" you haven't said what types you're looking at, or if the SG is for home defense, hunting, both. haven't listed a .22 rifle for small game and perhaps inexpensive practice, and the same for a .22pistol, or conversion. depending on your area, snares and traps may be an option for small to midsize game, and fishing may be an option. as an example, if you choose to go with small but concealable handguns, (Glock 19s or 23s for example) and ARs for rifles you could be looking at roughly the following. handguns 4x Glock 19/23 $500 each, $2,000 total 4x Glock 19/23 mags + 12x 17/22 mags ≈$20 each $320 total (gives you a total of 3 flush fit mags, and 3 slightly extended mags per gun... assuming that each gun comes with two mags) 4x Kydex holsters ≈$60 each $240 total 4x mag carriers ≈$20 each, $80 total 4x Surefire G2 LED lights $50 each, $200 total 4x 12 packs of spare batteries for above ≈$20 each, $80 total that's ≈$2920 just on the handguns with relatively few mags, no ammo in the budget, no mounted lights or .22 conversions. $80 in ammo should load one mag and a spare for each gun with decent JHPs, bring you to an estimated, even $3,000 before training or training ammo, CCW permits, etc. optional: 1 Advantage Arms conversion ≈$250, plus 2 spare mags at $25 each $300 total. add more kits later when budget permits. optional: future purchase or weapon mounted lights ≈$100 to $250 each, plus holsters to fit light with gun mounted $varies. rifles 2x M4gery-style AR 15 with flat top and MOE handguards with rail mounted for light ≈$1,000 each 16x 30rd mags $8 to $15 each. IF you build up the guns you'll save the 11% excise tax. IF you go with 5.45 uppers your ammo costs will be roughly 1/3 the cost of 5.56 additional needs: ammo, cleaning gear, spare parts, slings, lights, training, mag carriers––belt mounted kydex, chest rig, vest or other web gear. many options from low profile to full battle rattle. but on a starter budget i'd suggest something like a Spectre Gear chest rig and some belt mounted pouches. in the future, you can upgrade the nylon gear, add a red dot, get more ammo, etc. when the budget permits. the 5.45 upper will NOT allow the use of a drop in .22 conversion, so perhaps take a look at a S&W 15-22 for training and small game. those are about $400 depending on model and $15 per mag. a 10/22 or a bolt action .22 is also an option, but neither will be a training "understudy" for the AR. doesn't mean you can't have other .22s if you find something nice for a decent price and the budget permits. double all this and get rifles for the wives when the budget permits. do you need a heavier caliber for hunting or long range? i don't have any details to even guess about that for now. Shotgun Mossberg M500 with a long barrel for hunting and a short barrel for home defense. probably ≈$250 used (for a two barrel setup, less with just one barrel). well, that 's just an overview of A way to break it down, not the only way. if you want XDs or M&Ps or something else the mag prices will probably be slightly more on the handguns and not everything has .22 conversions available. Ruger P series guns will be cheaper, but they're somewhat bulky and not the easiest to conceal. SIG P250s are ≈$400, but mags are more expensive, and holster choices may be more limited. work at it one step at a time and eventually you'll get there. Right now I'm looking at XD's in 9mm, they have an added measure of safety to keep the wife happy with little ones in the house, and honestly I am not a big fan of the Glock grip angle. Rifles will be M4gerys built on Aero Precision Lowers/Uppers, as that's the platform my wife and I have experience on. I hadn't even thought about 5.45 Uppers so I am going to look into that. Ammo prices being what they are, I'd love to save on stocking up. And having 5.56 uppers means I can use drop-in conversions for .22. So pros and cons and all that. For .22 a 10/22 and or a Charger (a BLAST to shoot) are on my list. I was looking at an 870 for Hone-Defense and bird hunting mostly. I believe that hunting will most likely be done with an AR, or 45-70 depending. An AR is more than adequate for the deer here. Actually, the deer here are so used to people that you could hunt with a club  Suppressors, while fun, are one of those things that are a "hey it's my birthday honey... You know what I reeeaally want?"  We live in a small town surrounded by rural area on an island, 2 blocks from the water. So we have fishing and crabbing closeby as well. |
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AIM has the Spike's Tactical 5.45 uppers listed at $620 with free shipping. unfortunately they're on backorder right now. Aero Precision males the Spike's lowers... so an AP lower should be a "perfect match"
they're middy uppers, and include Spike's heavy buffer. the BCG is coated by Fail Zero in Boron Nitride, the barrel is coated in Melonite. looks like a really nice option. and FWIW, Spike's also has a Fire Control Group coated in the same stuff as the BCG and FWIW, they say it's "really slick". 44mag.com has good prices on the C Products 5.45 mags. nothing against XDs except there's no .22 conversion for them available from anyone yet, and mag prices are slightly steeper than Glock mags. nice shooting guns, but i feel like Goldilocks when i look at them, they all seem "too big or too small" to me. |
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Regarding the revised list:
Depending on what manual grinder you get, it can double for grain AND coffee. I have my eye on the Wondermill Jr. Baby stuff: baby powder (useful for sweaty feet too, preventing foot issues) A&D cream BABY MEDS- baby/childrens' tylenol, with oral syringe baby thermometer Pedialyte (should have electrolyte solution on hand anyway) topical gel for teething (stuck in the house due to disaster and two teething babies? Welcome to hell!) baby soap/shampoo (normal stuff is too strong on a baby) |
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Quoted: AIM has the Spike's Tactical 5.45 uppers listed at $620 with free shipping. unfortunately they're on backorder right now. Aero Precision males the Spike's lowers... so an AP lower should be a "perfect match" they're middy uppers, and include Spike's heavy buffer. the BCG is coated by Fail Zero in Boron Nitride, the barrel is coated in Melonite. looks like a really nice option. and FWIW, Spike's also has a Fire Control Group coated in the same stuff as the BCG and FWIW, they say it's "really slick". 44mag.com has good prices on the C Products 5.45 mags. nothing against XDs except there's no .22 conversion for them available from anyone yet, and mag prices are slightly steeper than Glock mags. nice shooting guns, but i feel like Goldilocks when i look at them, they all seem "too big or too small" to me. We're going to start with just arming myself and the wife since we actually have some training with firearms, and everyone else will come as $$ allows. The lack of a .22 conversion is painful for the XD, maybe I'll market one! However it is what works for her, and for the sake of commonality, is what the family will stock. I am not very familiar with AR variant calibers, but after looking around I will have to consider these, a .22 dedicated upper is easy to build for fairly cheap, I'll be researching this one much more. I'm wondering if I could build one for less? I can't seem to find the upper on the Spikes website, only the BCG. Quoted: Regarding the revised list: Depending on what manual grinder you get, it can double for grain AND coffee. I have my eye on the Wondermill Jr. Baby stuff: baby powder (useful for sweaty feet too, preventing foot issues) A&D cream BABY MEDS- baby/childrens' tylenol, with oral syringe baby thermometer Pedialyte (should have electrolyte solution on hand anyway) topical gel for teething (stuck in the house due to disaster and two teething babies? Welcome to hell!) baby soap/shampoo (normal stuff is too strong on a baby) I have been looking at the Country Living Grain Mill, looks sturdy as hell, and built in Montana. If, that is, I don't get my Nana's mill. It has been in the family for many, many years, and all her wheat is being given to me, so hopefully I can save the mill from being sold off .Baby stuff adds up insanely fast  I would have overlooked so much if it weren't for you guys in this thread! |
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Quoted: hey fixer, or anyone else.. Where can you get Powdered Butter? That has to be the one thing I dont have a ton of, I have a couple cases of the red feather butter but would like to stock up a bit more and powered sounds good to go. http://augasonfarms.com |