Posted: 11/4/2010 7:02:47 PM EDT
| Where to get U.S. made potassium iodine pills? |
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US iodine tablets are typically potassium iodide - it slowly looses effectiveness upon reaction with air. Rest of the world iodine tablets are typically potassium iodate (the same agent used to iodize table salt). It is much more shelf stable. Either is fine for consumption for I131 concerns. |
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. |
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Quoted: Quoted: If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. |
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. Totally agree. IIRC, there are only two power plants in California anymore. Neither San Onofre's or Diablo Canyon's plume is going to cover a heavily populated area (SLO is there but is also shadowed by a line of hills) absent some very odd winds. And if you aren't in close, there wouldn't be a meaningful ground diposition that would be inhaled to deliver a thyroid dose. I consider this more of a question of probability of beeing somewhere where KI would do you anything useful. First responder heading into an emergency is much different than some one 5 miles upwind, or 10 miles downwind. If you are breathing fission products, KI is appropriate, but if you couldn't smell the smoke from the fire, the risk is very low and the need for KI negilegable to zero, IMO. YMMV I live within 25 miles of a plant, I don't have KI. That is my considered choice. YMMV 
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. Totally agree. IIRC, there are only two power plants in California anymore. Neither San Onofre's or Diablo Canyon's plume is going to cover a heavily populated area (SLO is there but is also shadowed by a line of hills) absent some very odd winds. And if you aren't in close, there wouldn't be a meaningful ground diposition that would be inhaled to deliver a thyroid dose. I consider this more of a question of probability of beeing somewhere where KI would do you anything useful. First responder heading into an emergency is much different than some one 5 miles upwind, or 10 miles downwind. If you are breathing fission products, KI is appropriate, but if you couldn't smell the smoke from the fire, the risk is very low and the need for KI negilegable to zero, IMO. YMMV I live within 25 miles of a plant, I don't have KI. That is my considered choice. YMMV Why don't you maintain the option? |
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. Totally agree. IIRC, there are only two power plants in California anymore. Neither San Onofre's or Diablo Canyon's plume is going to cover a heavily populated area (SLO is there but is also shadowed by a line of hills) absent some very odd winds. And if you aren't in close, there wouldn't be a meaningful ground diposition that would be inhaled to deliver a thyroid dose. I consider this more of a question of probability of beeing somewhere where KI would do you anything useful. First responder heading into an emergency is much different than some one 5 miles upwind, or 10 miles downwind. If you are breathing fission products, KI is appropriate, but if you couldn't smell the smoke from the fire, the risk is very low and the need for KI negilegable to zero, IMO. YMMV I live within 25 miles of a plant, I don't have KI. That is my considered choice. YMMV Why don't you maintain the option? We often talk about identifying your likely problems and prep for those. I do not consider that sometihing to be concerned about or to prep for. My assessment is significant radioactive iodine at my location, enough to vaguely justify taking KI, isn't plausable. Much like prepping for an Earthquake in my AO –– my hot water heater does not have a securing strap (actually my Home Depot gave me a  look when I asked for one when I replaced mine). KI, for me, is the same. My criterea would pretty much be if I could hear the horn from the plant when the wind is blowing my way.
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. Totally agree. IIRC, there are only two power plants in California anymore. Neither San Onofre's or Diablo Canyon's plume is going to cover a heavily populated area (SLO is there but is also shadowed by a line of hills) absent some very odd winds. And if you aren't in close, there wouldn't be a meaningful ground diposition that would be inhaled to deliver a thyroid dose. I consider this more of a question of probability of beeing somewhere where KI would do you anything useful. First responder heading into an emergency is much different than some one 5 miles upwind, or 10 miles downwind. If you are breathing fission products, KI is appropriate, but if you couldn't smell the smoke from the fire, the risk is very low and the need for KI negilegable to zero, IMO. YMMV I live within 25 miles of a plant, I don't have KI. That is my considered choice. YMMV Why don't you maintain the option? We often talk about identifying your likely problems and prep for those. I do not consider that sometihing to be concerned about or to prep for. My assessment is significant radioactive iodine at my location, enough to vaguely justify taking KI, isn't plausable. Much like prepping for an Earthquake in my AO –– my hot water heater does not have a securing strap (actually my Home Depot gave me a look when I asked for one when I replaced mine). KI, for me, is the same. My criterea would pretty much be if I could hear the horn from the plant when the wind is blowing my way.
Hope that help answer your question and explain my thinking. Thank you. What if you're wrong? |
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. Totally agree. IIRC, there are only two power plants in California anymore. Neither San Onofre's or Diablo Canyon's plume is going to cover a heavily populated area (SLO is there but is also shadowed by a line of hills) absent some very odd winds. And if you aren't in close, there wouldn't be a meaningful ground diposition that would be inhaled to deliver a thyroid dose. I consider this more of a question of probability of beeing somewhere where KI would do you anything useful. First responder heading into an emergency is much different than some one 5 miles upwind, or 10 miles downwind. If you are breathing fission products, KI is appropriate, but if you couldn't smell the smoke from the fire, the risk is very low and the need for KI negilegable to zero, IMO. YMMV I live within 25 miles of a plant, I don't have KI. That is my considered choice. YMMV Why don't you maintain the option? We often talk about identifying your likely problems and prep for those. I do not consider that sometihing to be concerned about or to prep for. My assessment is significant radioactive iodine at my location, enough to vaguely justify taking KI, isn't plausable. Much like prepping for an Earthquake in my AO –– my hot water heater does not have a securing strap (actually my Home Depot gave me a look when I asked for one when I replaced mine). KI, for me, is the same. My criterea would pretty much be if I could hear the horn from the plant when the wind is blowing my way.
Hope that help answer your question and explain my thinking. Thank you. What if you're wrong? Then his posting days will be over. |
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. Totally agree. IIRC, there are only two power plants in California anymore. Neither San Onofre's or Diablo Canyon's plume is going to cover a heavily populated area (SLO is there but is also shadowed by a line of hills) absent some very odd winds. And if you aren't in close, there wouldn't be a meaningful ground diposition that would be inhaled to deliver a thyroid dose. I consider this more of a question of probability of beeing somewhere where KI would do you anything useful. First responder heading into an emergency is much different than some one 5 miles upwind, or 10 miles downwind. If you are breathing fission products, KI is appropriate, but if you couldn't smell the smoke from the fire, the risk is very low and the need for KI negilegable to zero, IMO. YMMV I live within 25 miles of a plant, I don't have KI. That is my considered choice. YMMV Why don't you maintain the option? We often talk about identifying your likely problems and prep for those. I do not consider that sometihing to be concerned about or to prep for. My assessment is significant radioactive iodine at my location, enough to vaguely justify taking KI, isn't plausable. Much like prepping for an Earthquake in my AO –– my hot water heater does not have a securing strap (actually my Home Depot gave me a look when I asked for one when I replaced mine). KI, for me, is the same. My criterea would pretty much be if I could hear the horn from the plant when the wind is blowing my way.
Hope that help answer your question and explain my thinking. Thank you. What if you're wrong? Then his posting days will be over. Actually, I would be posting from the middle of a heavily contaminated area with a significantly increased risk of Thyroid cancer. And when I get out of the plume, maybe I'll be posting with Thyroid cancer. Or all the other problems and cancers from being in a radioactive cloud. If I had taken KI, I would probably be posting with all the other cancers from internal contamination, just not thyroid cancer prevented by taking the KI. I accept that risk as being lower than an extended blackout from an ice storm or having a flood. Or a lightning strike on the chimney. Or even driving the car down the road. |
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This is what the CDC (as well as other Govt agencies) issues. Sorry, not sure how to make the link hot: http://www.nukepills.com/potassium-iodide.htm http://www.nukepills.com/potassium-iodide.htm I bought mine from nukepills a few years ago. |
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Just to offer, these guys have been around for a while too. I think some here have gotten meters from them.
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Quoted: What would the daily dosage be for children & adults of KI? Please do not dose your children at this point; or yourself for that matter. Unless you are in Japan or a very close, downwind island, its pretty likely the risk of taking iodine prophylaxis is higher than the risk of absorption of any 131I that could travel to the United States. However, the document below contains dosing information, as well as other useful info on this subject. http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/pub_meet/Iodine_Prophylaxis_guide.pdf |
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Quoted: Thanks, was inquiring for SHTF.Quoted: What would the daily dosage be for children & adults of KI? Please do not dose your children at this point; or yourself for that matter. Unless you are in Japan or a very close, downwind island, its pretty likely the risk of taking iodine prophylaxis is higher than the risk of absorption of any 131I that could travel to the United States. However, the document below contains dosing information, as well as other useful info on this subject. http://www.who.int/ionizing_radiation/pub_meet/Iodine_Prophylaxis_guide.pdf |
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If yours is expired, but has been stored properly, fear not!
Per the NRC (Nuke regulatory commission) here is their response on using expired KI: Is it safe to take KI tablets with an expired shelf-life? Yes, potassium iodide tablets are inherently stable and do not lose their effectiveness over time. Manufacturers must label their products with a shelf-life to ensure that consumers purchase safe and useful products. According to FDA guidance on Shelf-life Extension Posted Image Posted Image, studies over many years have confirmed that none of the components of KI tablets, including the active ingredient, has any significant potential for chemical degradation or interaction with other components or with components of the container closure system when stored according to labeled directions. To date, the only observed changes during stability (shelf-life) testing have been the failure of some batches of KI tablets to meet dissolution specifications. Some tablets tested required slightly longer than the specified time to achieve dissolution. Even in the case of a failure of this sort, the product remains usable. In such cases, instructions can be provided to crush the tablets and mix them with a juice or other liquid prior to administration as suggested for emergency pediatric dosing. http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/emerg-preparedness/protect-public/ki-faq.html#kiexpired |
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Quoted: Do we need this in Texas? I imagine we're pretty far removed. You don't need this in any state, in response to the Japan nuclear issues. (Its a good idea to have some on hand in case of an issue in your local nuke plant; but that can wait til prices come back down to earth). |
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Do we need this in Texas? I imagine we're pretty far removed. You don't need this in any state, in response to the Japan nuclear issues. (Its a good idea to have some on hand in case of an issue in your local nuke plant; but that can wait til prices come back down to earth). And if you are closed enough to need it, they plant will give them to the locals free of charge. |
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If you are considering this from radiation protection reasons, unless you can see the plat from your house, I would see no reason to stock (or ever take) KI. Purifying water? I actually never looked at the "Made in" on the little bottles. Don't know. Studies of large scale radiological emergencies have shown that thyroid cancer risk is very high and easily reduced. Potassium iodide does NOTHING to counter radiation, but it is very effective at keeping it from concentrating in your thyroid. And radiation is never limited to visible range of an emergency. Taking excess doses of a safe iodine source (either potassium iodide or potassium iodate) helps saturate your thyroid with 127I to prevent or minimize uptake of 131I, the common nuclear fission product (t1/2= 8 days). Ten half-lifes is generally considered completely decayed. Totally agree. IIRC, there are only two power plants in California anymore. Neither San Onofre's or Diablo Canyon's plume is going to cover a heavily populated area (SLO is there but is also shadowed by a line of hills) absent some very odd winds. And if you aren't in close, there wouldn't be a meaningful ground diposition that would be inhaled to deliver a thyroid dose. I consider this more of a question of probability of beeing somewhere where KI would do you anything useful. First responder heading into an emergency is much different than some one 5 miles upwind, or 10 miles downwind. If you are breathing fission products, KI is appropriate, but if you couldn't smell the smoke from the fire, the risk is very low and the need for KI negilegable to zero, IMO. YMMV I live within 25 miles of a plant, I don't have KI. That is my considered choice. YMMV Why don't you maintain the option? We often talk about identifying your likely problems and prep for those. I do not consider that sometihing to be concerned about or to prep for. My assessment is significant radioactive iodine at my location, enough to vaguely justify taking KI, isn't plausable. Much like prepping for an Earthquake in my AO –– my hot water heater does not have a securing strap (actually my Home Depot gave me a look when I asked for one when I replaced mine). KI, for me, is the same. My criterea would pretty much be if I could hear the horn from the plant when the wind is blowing my way.
Hope that help answer your question and explain my thinking. Thank you. What if you're wrong? Then his posting days will be over. Actually, I would be posting from the middle of a heavily contaminated area with a significantly increased risk of Thyroid cancer. And when I get out of the plume, maybe I'll be posting with Thyroid cancer. Or all the other problems and cancers from being in a radioactive cloud. If I had taken KI, I would probably be posting with all the other cancers from internal contamination, just not thyroid cancer prevented by taking the KI. I accept that risk as being lower than an extended blackout from an ice storm or having a flood. Or a lightning strike on the chimney. Or even driving the car down the road. That's a rather fatalistic view for someone posting in the survival forum about a product that is cheap, and easy to get (usually). So why prep at all? |
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I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread, but Iodine-131 has a half life of 8 days. I-131 production stops when the reactor scrams. Thus, KI tablets offer no protection from most radiological releases from a spent fuel pool accident, etc.
It wouldn't hurt to have some on hand, but in response to the accidents at Fukushima, it really doesn't matter at this point. |
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I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread, but Iodine-131 has a half life of 8 days. I-131 production stops when the reactor scrams. Thus, KI tablets offer no protection from most radiological releases from a spent fuel pool accident, etc. It wouldn't hurt to have some on hand, but in response to the accidents at Fukushima, it really doesn't matter at this point. Very good point. |
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Another thing, potassium iodate, etc, are good to store to replace iodine in your body in the event TSHTF and your other sources of iodine dry up. It would take a tiny amount per day, a small fraction of a tablet. Or you could just store Iodized salt. 
You would need to eat 3.5 pounds of iodized salt to give you the same protection as one potassium iodide tablet. Good luck eating it  .
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