Posted: 8/18/2010 9:47:49 AM EDT
| For a book that I am writing, I am interested in meeting/interviewing people who cache weapons. By that I mean burying them against the contingency of either social breakdown or confiscation. I can mask anyone's identity and location, for obvious reason. To get a sense of who I am and where I come from, look at www.danbaum.com, www.ourgunthing.com, and also see the August issue of Harper's magazine, where I wrote a piece about concealed carry. I am neither your typical writer nor your typical gun guy. I do, however, operate in good faith. If you're interested in talking to me, please email [email protected]. Thank you. |
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A notice to members here. The above seems to have a habbit of being overly dramatic and deliberately putting out false information.
one of his: The weapons at this Denver show seem to have been designed by Klingons. Many are short, black, high-tech semi-automatics—ARs in the jargon—the civilian version of the rifles American soldiers carry in Iraq and Afghanistan. They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, and are crusted with combat-ready lasers, flashlights, night-vision scopes, and red-dot sights. They start at around a thousand dollars. The tables that don’t cater to the AR crowd hold other modern man-killers: rough-finished Yugoslav AK-47’s for three hundred dollars apiece; Barrett .50-caliber rifles capable of penetrating an armored limousine; brand-new stainless-steel semi-automatic pistols with fifteen-shot clips selling for upwards of eight hundred dollars; tinny chrome-plated pocket pistols for less than a hundred bucks. There’s also plenty of body armor, web gear, combat fatigues, bayonets, silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines. It feels less like a “show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar.
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Quoted: A notice to members here. The above seems to have a habbit of being overly dramatic and deliberately putting out false information. one of his: The weapons at this Denver show seem to have been designed by Klingons. Many are short, black, high-tech semi-automatics—ARs in the jargon—the civilian version of the rifles American soldiers carry in Iraq and Afghanistan. They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, and are crusted with combat-ready lasers, flashlights, night-vision scopes, and red-dot sights. They start at around a thousand dollars. The tables that don’t cater to the AR crowd hold other modern man-killers: rough-finished Yugoslav AK-47’s for three hundred dollars apiece; Barrett .50-caliber rifles capable of penetrating an armored limousine; brand-new stainless-steel semi-automatic pistols with fifteen-shot clips selling for upwards of eight hundred dollars; tinny chrome-plated pocket pistols for less than a hundred bucks. There’s also plenty of body armor, web gear, combat fatigues, bayonets, silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines. It feels less like a "show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar. Thanks Forest for the info!!! |
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For a book that I am writing, I am interested in meeting/interviewing people who cache weapons. By that I mean burying them against the contingency of either social breakdown or confiscation. I can mask anyone's identity and location, for obvious reason. To get a sense of who I am and where I come from, look at www.danbaum.com, www.ourgunthing.com, and also see the August issue of Harper's magazine, where I wrote a piece about concealed carry. I am neither your typical writer nor your typical gun guy. I do, however, operate in good faith. If you're interested in talking to me, please email [email protected]. Thank you. Barry, is that you? |
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If it's the same guy, he's likely to be a hatchet piece writer. From www.theawl.com:
Earlier today we linked to a selection of questions answered by author Dan Baum about his latest Harper’s cover story, “Happiness is a Worn Gun.” Baum’s examination of the feelings about carrying a concealed handgun may on the surface appear reasonable and inoffensive. A deeper look proves this is not the case. That's not all that surprising from a writer who starts his reasoning on gun research, “Why do we need to explain why we like guns? Nobody feels a need to explain why people like guitars, or radios, or model trains. What makes guns different?" The obvious answer to Baum's dumb question is "because guitars and model trains don't kill people." But Baum’s is the wrong question. Here's the link: http://www.theawl.com/2010/08/real-america-dan-baums-sexy-gun |
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A notice to members here. The above seems to have a habbit of being overly dramatic and deliberately putting out false information. one of his: The weapons at this Denver show seem to have been designed by Klingons. Many are short, black, high-tech semi-automatics—ARs in the jargon—the civilian version of the rifles American soldiers carry in Iraq and Afghanistan. They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, and are crusted with combat-ready lasers, flashlights, night-vision scopes, and red-dot sights. They start at around a thousand dollars. The tables that don’t cater to the AR crowd hold other modern man-killers: rough-finished Yugoslav AK-47’s for three hundred dollars apiece; Barrett .50-caliber rifles capable of penetrating an armored limousine; brand-new stainless-steel semi-automatic pistols with fifteen-shot clips selling for upwards of eight hundred dollars; tinny chrome-plated pocket pistols for less than a hundred bucks. There’s also plenty of body armor, web gear, combat fatigues, bayonets, silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines. It feels less like a “show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar. Thanks for letting us know who he is. |
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A notice to members here. The above seems to have a habbit of being overly dramatic and deliberately putting out false information. one of his: The weapons at this Denver show seem to have been designed by Klingons. Many are short, black, high-tech semi-automatics—ARs in the jargon—the civilian version of the rifles American soldiers carry in Iraq and Afghanistan. They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, and are crusted with combat-ready lasers, flashlights, night-vision scopes, and red-dot sights. They start at around a thousand dollars. The tables that don’t cater to the AR crowd hold other modern man-killers: rough-finished Yugoslav AK-47’s for three hundred dollars apiece; Barrett .50-caliber rifles capable of penetrating an armored limousine; brand-new stainless-steel semi-automatic pistols with fifteen-shot clips selling for upwards of eight hundred dollars; tinny chrome-plated pocket pistols for less than a hundred bucks. There’s also plenty of body armor, web gear, combat fatigues, bayonets, silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines. It feels less like a “show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar. Wow.  
Thanks for letting us know. Get this guy out of here... |
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link to his thread in GD................HERE
they made him right off the BATf |
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A notice to members here. The above seems to have a habbit of being overly dramatic and deliberately putting out false information. one of his: The weapons at this Denver show seem to have been designed by Klingons. Many are short, black, high-tech semi-automatics—ARs in the jargon—the civilian version of the rifles American soldiers carry in Iraq and Afghanistan. They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, and are crusted with combat-ready lasers, flashlights, night-vision scopes, and red-dot sights. They start at around a thousand dollars. The tables that don’t cater to the AR crowd hold other modern man-killers: rough-finished Yugoslav AK-47’s for three hundred dollars apiece; Barrett .50-caliber rifles capable of penetrating an armored limousine; brand-new stainless-steel semi-automatic pistols with fifteen-shot clips selling for upwards of eight hundred dollars; tinny chrome-plated pocket pistols for less than a hundred bucks. There’s also plenty of body armor, web gear, combat fatigues, bayonets, silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines. It feels less like a “show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar. I don't have any Klingon guns. 
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Might as well put this here too:
THIS GUY IS AN OBAMA SUPPORTER They went to the inauguration... Proof is here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/19/AR2008111904436.html?hpid=topnews By David Nakamura Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, November 20, 2008 When Barack Obama clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June, Margaret Knox Baum, a supporter from Boulder, Colo., logged on to Craigslist and booked three rooms in a Capitol Hill townhouse for inauguration week. Friends thought she was jumping the gun, but Baum wanted to beat the rush. She signed a five-page contract, sent in a $940 deposit and rounded up 14 others to go with her to Washington. Five days after Obama won the general election, Baum received an e-mail from Reid Management, the Washington company that owns the townhouse. To her dismay, it said her contract would be canceled "due to circumstances beyond our control." ad_icon "This puts us in a spot," said Baum, a freelance journalist. "We've already booked airfare. And we can't pay $3,000 a night for an apartment." 
I would encourage everyone to pass this around the forums so that people are aware that this man is likely writing this to cast a negative light on gun owners. |
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OP is an Obama supporter with an agenda.
Don't trust him. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/19/AR2008111904436.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008112000935 Jan. 20 Housing Is Risky Business Inauguration Renters, Landlords Face Perils Of Disputes, Fraud By David Nakamura Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, November 20, 2008 When Barack Obama clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June, Margaret Knox Baum, a supporter from Boulder, Colo., logged on to Craigslist and booked three rooms in a Capitol Hill townhouse for inauguration week. Friends thought she was jumping the gun, but Baum wanted to beat the rush. She signed a five-page contract, sent in a $940 deposit and rounded up 14 others to go with her to Washington. Five days after Obama won the general election, Baum received an e-mail from Reid Management, the Washington company that owns the townhouse. To her dismay, it said her contract would be canceled "due to circumstances beyond our control." "This puts us in a spot," said Baum, a freelance journalist. "We've already booked airfare. And we can't pay $3,000 a night for an apartment." Baum, 54, got caught up in an inauguration-driven property frenzy in which thousands of people in the Washington area have come out of the woodwork to make a quick buck by offering their houses for rent in January. But the arrangements –– with deals being brokered largely between amateurs, often online and with little personal contact –– are fraught with peril on both sides, including fights over money and property damage in addition to issues regarding insurance, liability and fraud, experts said. Baum got her deposit back, but she has not received an explanation about why her contract was canceled. She said she suspects that the management company realized it could make more money. "There's potentially all kinds of problems here," said Kevin McParland, a lawyer who specializes in landlord-tenant cases in the District and Maryland. "The owner could have problems with people trashing the place. The renter could have problems if they come and the place is not available when they get here." Similar markets have developed in other places that have been home to major events, including Park City, Utah, which hosted events during the 2002 Winter Olympics. Myles Rademan, a Park City spokesman, said that some reservations were canceled after the 2001 terrorist attacks, leaving some property owners scrambling. But, he said, the complaints were not widespread, perhaps because planners had spent years preparing residents. "We warned people, saying, 'Don't price gouge. The world is coming here. We're welcoming the world,' " Rademan said. "We hope that places like the Chamber of Commerce in D.C. are going through a campaign to just ask people to be nice." The D.C. Chamber is developing housing advice that will be posted on its Web site. Deposits are recommended, officials said, as is a review of what is covered by insurance. The District and its suburban jurisdictions have regulations that govern property rentals, including licensing, certification of occupancy and inspections. But the laws are difficult to broadly enforce for an event such as the inauguration, D.C. officials said, and they are considering relaxing the restrictions on a one-time basis. They have declared that property owners will not be taxed on their earnings for that week. As for monitoring for fraud, the D.C. Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs will handle complaints "on a case-by-case basis if the issues are covered under the Consumer Protection regulations," agency spokesman Michael Rupert said. Otherwise, the best recourse for people who think they have been defrauded might be the judicial system, Rupert said. About Baum's case, Rupert said, it "does not appear to be a tenant issue but a contract issue. Depending on the terms of the contract, this may be well within the property owner's rights to cancel the contract." City officials and real estate lawyers recommend that tenants and landlords take precautions, including signing contracts that are as detailed as possible about price, length of stay and security deposits. Some property owners are requesting references so they can investigate out-of-towners; some tenants are asking for pictures of the properties. The demand is so great for housing that several for-profit Web sites have been created to act as brokers. Deana Bass, 35, an Alexandria public affairs consultant who started a site, said some property owners have offered to cook tenants breakfast and drive them to the Metro. "I want them, when they are communicating with each other, to be clear what the room looks like, what space they are actually going to get," Bass said. "When they say their place is 'Metro accessible' but it doesn't really seem Metro accessible, I question them." Amani Council, who lives in a four-bedroom house in Temple Hills, posted an advertisement on Bass's site offering her basement unit for $800 a night. Council said she has had two offers but rejected both. "They were a little sketchy, based on my own intuition," Council said. "I asked them questions. There's no smoking in my house. I do have a dog. . . . I said, 'Look, I'm interviewing people and I'll get back to you.' " In Baum's case, her contract with Reid Management detailed prices, dates, the number of tenants, damage liability, utilities, parking spaces and other items for the stay in a two-story townhouse on Kentucky Avenue SE. The building is a few blocks from the Capitol, where Obama will be sworn in, and Baum seemingly scored a great deal: $2,350 for all three rooms for five nights. That's a fraction of what houses are going for now, many advertised on Craigslist for about $20,000 for the week. "In the event possession cannot be delivered within that time, through no fault of renter or renter's agents, then renter also has the option of substituting the rental with a similar or upgraded unit if said unit for whatever reason is unavailable," the contract said. "If substitution of this rental is not an option, this rental and all rights under this rental agreement shall be at an end, and no damages can be awarded to either party." In a series of e-mails, Ian Reid, who operates Reid Management and owns the townhouse, said that a reporter had incomplete information, but he was not specific about why he canceled the contract. Asked what he planned to do with the building from Jan. 16 to 21, the dates Baum had reserved, Reid said, "Regarding those dates, I am waiting to see if DC relaxes the renting guidelines." He did not elaborate. Reid Management is registered with the District government as a corporation in good standing, and the city has no record of any infractions, city officials said. Property records show that Reid owns another rental building on A Street SE. As for Baum and her friends, who worked as volunteers on the Obama campaign, they're frantically searching for accommodations. "Our superstitious friends disliked the idea of booking so early," Baum said with a sigh. "But we thought we were way cool to have had the foresight and guts to book early and were appropriately smug about it." |
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This post of his was highly entertaining:
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Ah, I should have clarified: 1. By caching I mean burying, against the contingency of either confiscation or social breakdown. 2. I can mask the person's identity and location. 3. I really don't need any paranoid dickheads accusing me of being an ATF agent. You don't want to deal with me, fine. But hold off on the insults. Let's be gentlemen. It is insulting that he'd think he could just barge in here and ask us to help him write an article that is more than likely going to try to depict some firearm owners negatively. |
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Dan, where the fuck do you get those pink hats from. I swear I never would have matched a pink hat with a blue sear sucker jacket if my life depended on it until I saw your picture.
Your a veritable fashion statement Dan. Does your get up come with a bowl of soup and a banjo? Do you drive and edsel? 
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Quoted: Man I want one of those "fifteen-shot clips" A notice to members here. The above seems to have a habbit of being overly dramatic and deliberately putting out false information. one of his: The weapons at this Denver show seem to have been designed by Klingons. Many are short, black, high-tech semi-automatics—ARs in the jargon—the civilian version of the rifles American soldiers carry in Iraq and Afghanistan. They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, and are crusted with combat-ready lasers, flashlights, night-vision scopes, and red-dot sights. They start at around a thousand dollars. The tables that don’t cater to the AR crowd hold other modern man-killers: rough-finished Yugoslav AK-47’s for three hundred dollars apiece; Barrett .50-caliber rifles capable of penetrating an armored limousine; brand-new stainless-steel semi-automatic pistols with fifteen-shot clips selling for upwards of eight hundred dollars; tinny chrome-plated pocket pistols for less than a hundred bucks. There’s also plenty of body armor, web gear, combat fatigues, bayonets, silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines. It feels less like a “show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar.  |
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silencers, stacks of thirty- and fifty-round magazines.
Guess I need to go to that show and get me a silencer and some of those 50 rd magazines...  Oh I cannot wait for the next gun show, where I can get some of those anti tank rockets, a solid ton of c4, C5 Galaxy, and some of dem machine gunny things, so I can sell them to my best buddies in the mexi cartels...... ..........I am kidding DAN!
You dont get stuff like that at gunshows. Maybe you were too busy to notice while looking for inbread knuckle draggers. Did you get a tetnus shot before you went to the gunshow?
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| Okay, y'all. You've had your fun. Now, somebody tell me how someone like me could learn about all the things about which you say I'm ignorant. Is there a way I could have framed my inquiry that would not have had you foaming at the mouth? Or is the entire exercise of trying to learn suspect, and are we all better off in our little circle-jerk, talking to nobody but people who agree with us? You want to secure gun rights now and forever more? Short of shooting all those who disagree with you –– which some of you seem to hold as an option –– you're going to have to convince people who now don't agree with you to hear your argument. That's called –– what's the word? –– democracy. Yes, I'm an Obama supporter. Big-time, actually. Never made any secret of that. And yes, I have reservations about absolute fealty to the second half of the Second Amendment without reading the first half. You think I'm misguided? Tell me why. People read what I write. Maybe you can win people over. You'd have a better chance that way than calling me schoolyard names and threatening my life. Just sayin'.... |
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Quoted: Okay, y'all. You've had your fun. Now, somebody tell me how someone like me could learn about all the things about which you say I'm ignorant. Is there a way I could have framed my inquiry that would not have had you foaming at the mouth? Or is the entire exercise of trying to learn suspect, and are we all better off in our little circle-jerk, talking to nobody but people who agree with us? You want to secure gun rights now and forever more? Short of shooting all those who disagree with you –– which some of you seem to hold as an option –– you're going to have to convince people who now don't agree with you to hear your argument. That's called –– what's the word? –– democracy. Yes, I'm an Obama supporter. Big-time, actually. Never made any secret of that. And yes, I have reservations about absolute fealty to the second half of the Second Amendment without reading the first half. You think I'm misguided? Tell me why. People read what I write. Maybe you can win people over. You'd have a better chance that way than calling me schoolyard names and threatening my life. Just sayin'.... They fire a bullet unsuitable for most hunting, It feels less like a "show” than an arms bazaar in Peshawar. You brought an agenda to the table and want people here to support it. Did you tell the people at the "arms Bazaar in Peshawar" that you were trying to "win people over" with your gun show hit piece. |
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Okay, y'all. You've had your fun. Now, somebody tell me how someone like me could learn about all the things about which you say I'm ignorant. Is there a way I could have framed my inquiry that would not have had you foaming at the mouth? Or is the entire exercise of trying to learn suspect, and are we all better off in our little circle-jerk, talking to nobody but people who agree with us? You want to secure gun rights now and forever more? Short of shooting all those who disagree with you –– which some of you seem to hold as an option –– you're going to have to convince people who now don't agree with you to hear your argument. That's called –– what's the word? –– democracy. Yes, I'm an Obama supporter. Big-time, actually. Never made any secret of that. And yes, I have reservations about absolute fealty to the second half of the Second Amendment without reading the first half. You think I'm misguided? Tell me why. People read what I write. Maybe you can win people over. You'd have a better chance that way than calling me schoolyard names and threatening my life. Just sayin'.... Oh damn I missed the part where someone threatened your life.. I would guess you won't get any cooperation here especially since you seem to misquote and otherwise over blow what info you have.
ETA: I think you and everyone here would be better off without you here on this board.. |
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Okay, y'all. You've had your fun. Now, somebody tell me how someone like me could learn about all the things about which you say I'm ignorant. Is there a way I could have framed my inquiry that would not have had you foaming at the mouth? Or is the entire exercise of trying to learn suspect, and are we all better off in our little circle-jerk, talking to nobody but people who agree with us? You want to secure gun rights now and forever more? Short of shooting all those who disagree with you –– which some of you seem to hold as an option –– you're going to have to convince people who now don't agree with you to hear your argument. That's called –– what's the word? –– democracy. Yes, I'm an Obama supporter. Big-time, actually. Never made any secret of that. And yes, I have reservations about absolute fealty to the second half of the Second Amendment without reading the first half. You think I'm misguided? Tell me why. People read what I write. Maybe you can win people over. You'd have a better chance that way than calling me schoolyard names and threatening my life. Just sayin'.... What's the point, liberals like yourself can not and will not be open to the other side of the coin. You and the likes of you , do not understand freedom and the cost it comes with. I'm sure you feel your views and opinions carry more weight than others. Your articles come off with an elitist overtone, as in the gunshow article. No one should have to convince you of anything.Do your research and make a choice for yourself, words will very seldomly change the mindset that we have. This is a forum dedicated to the AR15 rifle and its variants. You searched this board out for research, but instead choose to troll both GD and now SF. Nothing wrong with disagreement, this is a great place to air it out, but do so in a respectful manner. I still don't quite fully understand your motives and would like a better explanation of what you intended to do with any information gathered here. Did you plan on blogging it and posting it on FB and Twitter to somehow brag to your leftist buddies how inbred and backwards we are. And I'm taking a wild guess on you would also throw in a good " this needs to be illegal/banned " soapbox on your little blog. The problem with guys like you is you are so smug and so full of yourself you feel that you are somehow better than the rest of civilized world. My opnion is that you are here to self promote your agenda at our cost. Have a nice day Mr. Baum |
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Okay, y'all. You've had your fun. Now, somebody tell me how someone like me could learn about all the things about which you say I'm ignorant. Is there a way I could have framed my inquiry that would not have had you foaming at the mouth? Or is the entire exercise of trying to learn suspect, and are we all better off in our little circle-jerk, talking to nobody but people who agree with us? You want to secure gun rights now and forever more? Short of shooting all those who disagree with you –– which some of you seem to hold as an option –– you're going to have to convince people who now don't agree with you to hear your argument. That's called –– what's the word? –– democracy. Yes, I'm an Obama supporter. Big-time, actually. Never made any secret of that. And yes, I have reservations about absolute fealty to the second half of the Second Amendment without reading the first half. You think I'm misguided? Tell me why. People read what I write. Maybe you can win people over. You'd have a better chance that way than calling me schoolyard names and threatening my life. Just sayin'.... Dan, rather than pick this tripe apart piece by piece let me say this and be done. With all of the hit pieces being done by the left wing media lately, why dont you tell us why we shouldnt expect the same from you? ... [CRICKETS] |
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Remember to post a note on other gun boards about this "socialist libtard" from Colorado as a warning to others.
If he was a gun enthusiast he would have contributed as we all do and get serious about his second amendment freedom. Rather he is not a gun enthusiast, but a poser with a gun fetish as it gets him paid from his libtard agenda writing silly words his libtard friends find "fascinating and dangerous dealings with radical right wingers." He thinks he knows, but in reality he plays with his little hobby and has a few fudd guns and possibly a few pistols. His range time is twice a year before mulie season and he goes to some posh hunt club with his few democrat friends to do a "mancation and down time from the hustle and bustle of urban living." Dan, the good people on this board don't want you here and honestly you should stop writing, your material and lack of insight is horribly composed. Become a speech writer...oh I forgot that takes tact and prose. |
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Okay, y'all. You've had your fun. Now, somebody tell me how someone like me could learn about all the things about which you say I'm ignorant. Is there a way I could have framed my inquiry that would not have had you foaming at the mouth? Or is the entire exercise of trying to learn suspect, and are we all better off in our little circle-jerk, talking to nobody but people who agree with us? You want to secure gun rights now and forever more? Short of shooting all those who disagree with you –– which some of you seem to hold as an option –– you're going to have to convince people who now don't agree with you to hear your argument. That's called –– what's the word? –– democracy. Yes, I'm an Obama supporter. Big-time, actually. Never made any secret of that. And yes, I have reservations about absolute fealty to the second half of the Second Amendment without reading the first half. You think I'm misguided? Tell me why. People read what I write. Maybe you can win people over. You'd have a better chance that way than calling me schoolyard names and threatening my life. Just sayin'.... If it was just ignorance we could help, stupidity is usually a terminal affliction. |
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Mods please lock this thread and banish Mr. Baum back to DU. This entire discussion has completely strayed away from the discussion of preparedness/survival. We should really follow the "Don't feed the trolls" rule. Thank you. +1 This needs to be locked. |
