Posted: 7/8/2010 7:15:09 PM EDT
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I finally have a lot of my preps squared away but I still have no fuel preps other than a single 5 gallon gas can next to my lawn mower. My primary location (bug in if needed) is a normal looking house in the suburbs. Can anyone give me any ideas on how to cache 25-50 gallons of fuel in a safe low vis manner? Just looking for ideas...
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Barrel dolly makes it easy to move around full barrels if you have a concrete floor in the storage area.
I also have one of these so that I can lift and move full barrels with tractors. You can find barrels on craigslist for as cheap as $10. Clean them up and store away. |
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I have a sort of thing that might be a barrel dolley but the wheels need some work to get to rolling again. I grabbed it because what it will do is let you roll a barrel onto its side and have the barrel a couple feet in the air or so. If you set things up with a spigot and what not you can now gravity feed to stuff lower. I also have a couple handpumps as well, but I figured being able to roll a barrel onto its side might be darn handy if the pumps are suddenly needed elsewhere. A lot of folks move full barrels by just rolling them on their bottom edge but I consider that a last resort to some extent, depends on how heavy the barrel is and a barrel full of liquid is heavy. If you go with a barrel or the rolling pump station I would get some smaller cans so you can get 10 or 15 gallons at the gas station at a time and fill your stuff up bit by bit. I know in the burbs I grew up in a few 5 gallon cans was no biggy but a drum or something got attention. Then again I got a lot of attention as a kid since I did things they say not to do with about anything that someone had said, "Don't do that" with something. |
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measure the height of the gas cans... Get a 1/2 sheet of treated 1/2 inch plywood ( 4' x 4' ). Dig a hole say 2.5 ft. deep ( what ever the height is + 4" ) by 3.5 ' X 3.5' in the selected area. Put the gas cans in, cover with plywood... camo the plywood with the same grass / dirt you removed. You may want to line the floor with treated timbers or 12" concrete pads ( just to make it "nice" )....hahahah 
The good part is, it's much cooler... out of sight... safe ( away from the house ). I'd double dose the fuel with Marine Stabil. 19 |
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OP, you need to look through here and the Survival DiscussionGear forums at all the gas topics. The summary of what you will learn is: get a super siphon; some of the hardware stores have these too. then get a way to hold the gas you will probably want a smaller can to fuel the genny from you could get a wally world can for this job, and here is a 2.5 gallon can from CTD Next get a way to hold the 35 gallons You could buy two of these 4 pack Nato gas cans from DO with free shipping You could buy Scepter MFC from Ebay––You will need to get viton gaskets too You could buy some Blitz cans from Northern Tool or you could get a 55 gallon drum. 36 Quarter bore built a small shed, or there are the patio boxes from rubbermade. 23 17 |
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I went with 55 gallon drums, leave a little bit of room for expansion, I just fill to 50 gallons, and they are stored in a barn/out building. the part of the building they are in has an open front so I built me a security gate out of 2.3/8" tubing and rebar. its protected from the elements, out of sight, and the gate will keep out the lazy theives. I do think though, that in a SHTF situation, a building that has a security feature like this will only make someone want to get in more to see whats in there. I know I would be curious. 15 |
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Quarterbore built a small shed, or there are the patio boxes from rubbermade. 23 Funny, more people refer to my "Generator Shed" as a Fuel Shed but it sure has worked well as that! http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=626894 Note the fan inside is only use when the gas cans are out of there and the generator is in there running (I get asked that a lot). I also no longer store my propane in this shed with all the gas and kerosene. Moved the cylinders to a smaller box under the deck. 
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Well Quarterbore I may have seen a pic of that shed with a genny in it once a couple years ago, but I've seen the pics of the fuel cans in the shed about once a quarter since your fuel can thread that went big. We are starting to look at the shed in terms of what it is used for most of the time.
PS thanks for posting the pics of the fuel cans, and the pics of the shed. 10 |
i bought some 18 wheeler fuel tanks.. 50 bucks for a 100 gallon, aluminum tank. i also bought two 150 gallon tanks for $50 bucks each as well..... i took the mounting hardware and made a mount for it to set on.
this is a really good option. this is a 300 gallon tank, look for a used one, and you can score it for about $100-150 bucks. comes with its own pump handle. 
this is what i have so far. two 150 gallon tanks, and one 100 gallon tank. ......... i might eventually buy a 300 gallon tank, or maybe a 500 gallon, to replace these if i find a good deal. i just like the alloy tank, no sparks, and the caps are brass, no sparks. ... many of the steel ones are not designed for gasoline. 
i bought this fuel caddy, 30 gallon, and it works pretty well. its not extremly high quality, but it alows me to get fuel from the large tanks, and move it to a vehicle, etc. the dumbass thing about this fuel caddy, is the fuel guage, ( notice the clear fuel plastic thing?), well the gasoline fumes have basically melted it.  ..... im just going to cap it off. it still works well.
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Nothing more low visibility than a fuel tanker. 
Buy an extra truck. Trucks usually have a 30 gallon tank or so. Put in a bed tank for another 50-100 gallons. Put a topper on the truck and keep it locked. There's 80-130 gallons right there and a backup vehicle to boot. |
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Nothing more low visibility than a fuel tanker.
Buy an extra truck 1977 to 1987 Chevy K30. Trucks usually have a 30 gallon tank or so Get the twin saddle tanks for 40 gal. Put in a bed tank for another 50-100 gallons, and a 40 gallon tank from a Suburban. Put a topper on the truck and keep it locked. There's 80-130 130 to 180 gallons right there and a backup vehicle to boot. helped ya a bit 
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Nothing more low visibility than a fuel tanker.
Buy an extra truck 1977 to 1987 Chevy K30. Trucks usually have a 30 gallon tank or so Get the twin saddle tanks for 40 gal. Put in a bed tank for another 50-100 gallons, and a 40 gallon tank from a Suburban. Put a topper on the truck and keep it locked. There's 80-130 130 to 180 gallons right there and a backup vehicle to boot. helped ya a bit
3 If it were up to me, it would be a diesel powered Chevy and my wife would also drive a diesel car, but the wife don't like the smell of diesel. 
I already have a diesel car and am in the market for an older diesel truck/blazer/etc. |
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Nothing more low visibility than a fuel tanker.
Buy an extra truck 1977 to 1987 Chevy K30. Trucks usually have a 30 gallon tank or so Get the twin saddle tanks for 40 gal. Put in a bed tank for another 50-100 gallons, and a 40 gallon tank from a Suburban. Put a topper on the truck and keep it locked. There's 80-130 130 to 180 gallons right there and a backup vehicle to boot. helped ya a bit
3 If it were up to me, it would be a diesel powered Chevy and my wife would also drive a diesel car, but the wife don't like the smell of diesel.
I already have a diesel car and am in the market for an older diesel truck/blazer/etc. You might be able to add a 35 gal in frame tank from a 1988 or newer pickup too to get the total tankage up to 215 gal. The beauty of these is that they were available in crewcab, regular cab, big block, small block, and diesel. 2 |
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Nothing more low visibility than a fuel tanker.
Buy an extra truck. Trucks usually have a 30 gallon tank or so. Put in a bed tank for another 50-100 gallons. Put a topper on the truck and keep it locked. There's 80-130 gallons right there and a backup vehicle to boot. i used to have a inbed toolbox, that had a seperate fuel tank, i think it held 50 gallons...... was a lot better than the 15 gallon standard tank..... bigassed truck sucked gas though. im looking at a newer truck soon, something 4x4, probably full size 4 door...... ill add a winch, winch bumber, and a toolbox/fuel tank, possibly a oversize tank to replace the factory one.....smallest truck ill take will be a dakota or tacoma 4x4 4 door. |