Posted: 2/16/2010 1:35:16 PM EDT
| where the emergency responders carry weapons. I know the police and the fed Agents will but are there any others that will carry? |
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Check out Bama's thread. It contains a good chunk of AAR type stuff concerning Katrina and some of the other hurricanes of the time. Interesting reading with many insights, and at least a partial answer to your question.
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TSA postal inspectors IRS enforcement dpt of transportation, probably a dozen branch's in that department alone and about 1/2 dozen others in the Fed are armed agents with the power to arrest buddy of mine works for something to do with consumer fraud and carries.. |
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FEMA has issued guns with disasterous results in past deployments. I doubt they would do it again unless the person had had the basic criminal investigator class @ FLETC. They do have a few "security" slots attached to the MERS units and I suspect these guys go out armed, and may be deputized as US Marshals. It's also possable for local LEOs to be Special Government Employees and be sworn marshals. I know of a whole group of people this could happen to if needed. But the (real) US Marshals service is the primary "armed" federal response to a disaster. By this I mean, they are written into the plans when flexable short term armed security is needed. Whackenhut, Blackwater, etc can be on site in a few days, and the standard guard service contract allows for doubling the number of guards at federal facilities. But the USMS for example is expected to accompany shipments of drugs from the Strategic National Stockpile. If more support is needed, FEMA can call on (based on first hand experience): USPS postal inspectors, FAMs, FBI/DEA/CBP/ICE/ATF/BOP/USSS, EPA, NOAA, NPS, USFS. While I suspose USCG could deploy law enforcement in suport of FEMA, I've never seen it. OTOH, USCG provides extensive logistical and communications support even to inland disaster areas. For example, USCG New Orleans deployed a semitrailer based EOC on Sept 11, while the Air group out of E CIty flew logistical missions.
LEO "attached" to FEMA are told to leave their guns behind. This loses something in translation some times. Generally law enforcement is left to the state government (with assistance form other state governments under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact) since a police officer is better trained and equipped for the typical interaction, and makes half the money of a GS-14 +25% FBI agent. A similar argument can be made for security, once the contractual hurdles are overcome, usually by teaming on an existing contract (which is why I mentioned Blackwater (Iraq) and Whackenhut (SRS)) BTW, there's a funny drain on local (in state) LEOs- Lots of companies doing disaster responce (ie power company) need armed security, but legally they need to acquire it in state. For something like a logistics depot (abandonded supermarket parking lot), where no argument can be made that it is a local LEO responsability, they will hire off duty cops who are then not scheduled to work OT (or at all) for their department. The city can't provide security, but recognizes that securing all that wire, fuel, parts, and people is just as important as any other responsability. Note to Dominion Power- Don't rehire the well built blond police offiicer and her SO boyfriend next time - She just slowed every truck down for a few seconds. Oh yeah, i forgot I ran into a guy one time that was either CIA Police or NSA police who responded to a FEMA call for volunteers. The name sounded like something out of a B movie, but police got them more respect that security, which was their major responsability. He told me there is a FBI police also. |
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do members of FEMA carry? I am trying to find a agency that carrys and is involved in disasters. ...USCG.....  Not during disaster response, only when performing law enforcement missions. When I was in the USCG (80's) we were armed on every mission. Then again, I was running small boats out of the Keys, and SAR missions had a bad habit of turning into LE missions on a regular basis. stasiman |
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do members of FEMA carry? I am trying to find a agency that carrys and is involved in disasters. ...USCG..... Not during disaster response, only when performing law enforcement missions. Besides, he asked for an Agency that responds to disasters, not that is a disaster. 
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I've read your previous posts where you state that you're pursuing a career in emergency management.
I'm reading between the lines here, so bear with me... If you want to work in emergency management, work in emergency management. If you want to carry a gun legally, get a CWP. But don't seek out an emergency management career as a means to carry a weapon. I hope I don't have to explain why this is a bad idea for all concerned. |
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do members of FEMA carry? I am trying to find a agency that carrys and is involved in disasters. ...USCG..... Not during disaster response, only when performing law enforcement missions. Besides, he asked for an Agency that responds to disasters, not that is a disaster.
Bwaaahhhaaa, must... stop.,.. laughing.,.. damn you're a riot, do you do stand up?
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Years ago, I don't know if this is still true, the NYFD was authorized to carry. I had a side job with a company reloading and I remember making qual ammo for them.
This was a result of riots and what not in NYC. The underpriviledged would burn buildings and when the FD would show up, the poor and downtrodden would hurl bricks and anything else heavy down onto the firefighters. Anyway that's the way I remember it. |