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2/10/2010 9:26:53 AM EDT
Since the other thread is starting to sound like GD, I figured it would be best to ask this question in it's own thread. Is there a website that list a place to get some "good" medical training? I'm not looking for the basic 1st aid class offered by the Red Cross, but stuff that is more advanced. I know the local community college offers EMT courses, but my work schedule prevents me from taking them. I am in So Cal if it matters. Also, I have a friend that is a corpsman attached to a Marine unit right now. Can he legally (I guess it does not matter if he is on his free time) teach me some tricks to his trade? Is there a basic medical class they teach to every Marine? I would ask him, but he is out in the field for the next to weeks.  
2/10/2010 9:34:11 AM EDT
[#1]
Sounds like you need a Combat Lifesaver course (taught in the army, a step between regular first aid and a medic.  Kind of like .mil first responder).  No idea how you can get the training out of the .mil though.  Have you thought about first responder?  You might want to check with a local fire department, preferably one with volunteers.  I took my first responder course at a volunteer fire department, of course that was 15 years ago...
2/10/2010 9:37:47 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Since the other thread is starting to sound like GD, I figured it would be best to ask this question in it's own thread. Is there a website that list a place to get some "good" medical training? I'm not looking for the basic 1st aid class offered by the Red Cross, but stuff that is more advanced. I know the local community college offers EMT courses, but my work schedule prevents me from taking them. I am in So Cal if it matters. Also, I have a friend that is a corpsman attached to a Marine unit right now. Can he legally (I guess it does not matter if he is on his free time) teach me some tricks to his trade? Is there a basic medical class they teach to every Marine? I would ask him, but he is out in the field for the next to weeks.  


Most of the first aid we learned in Marines was in boot camp. Other things where taught by are corpsman or we had to go to a class. I see not problem with your friend teaching you! ~Try looking up on the net night or weekend EMT classes I'm sure you can find something out there that will work for you . Books can only teach you so much you really need hands on training.
2/10/2010 9:49:34 AM EDT
[#3]
There are plenty of places that offer the equivalent of the Combat Lifesaver course. There as several places that offer advanced certifications in Wilderness medicine. You just need to look a little harder.....
2/10/2010 10:01:08 AM EDT
[#4]
Start with the local Red Cross classes. its basic first aid and that is where you start, learn cpr and the basics and go from there. Then If you can volunteer at a fire department or be on a cert team and get emt training for free . We all started with the basics, and if my people dont have a good basic foundation, then going higher in learning is useless, remember in a true SHTF scenario your gonna be limitied to basics, your not gonna be running around with IV bags and surgical gear, And even if you are, whos gonna stabilize them after your first aid, something to think about in terms of reality. good luck in your quest.
2/10/2010 10:05:51 AM EDT
[#5]
Red Cross classes are ok but most of them have one overriding premise- CALL 911. That's fine....except for when there IS NO 911 which is the scenario most people on this forum envision. Not a bad place to start but VERY limited. I think the various Combat Medicine courses are more likely what most people here are interested in.
2/10/2010 10:15:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Here are a couple of links for you to get started.

North American Resuce Products Training Videos

TacMedSolutions Training Blog

I do have a course for both LE and non-LE that goes of TCCC, the skill sets, human factors, etc.  I have provided training via webcast in the past and have limited availability to do so now.  It is difficult as having hands on with good training props is vital as well as evaluating the skills of the students to ensure they are doing the skills correctly (perfect practice make perfect).  I am doing this class at the West Virginia Pubic Safety Expo in May for those of you covered in snow right now.  

If there is significant interest in a webcast of this I can try to arrange something.  PM if you are interested.  My plan would be to break it down into 1 hour or so webcasts that can be recorded and viewed.  Again not sure if it will deliver the info needed the way I want it to be but it may be worth a shot.
2/10/2010 10:23:20 AM EDT
[#7]
You can start by going over the army combat lifesaver manuals HERE.
2/10/2010 10:24:17 AM EDT
[#8]
Find the time to take an EMT 1A course at your local community college. You can take it as a night and weekend class if you need to. I did it nearly 30 years ago while working 2 jobs at about 60 hours/ week total. Not sure about today, but back then the class ran approx 120 hours. This will not get you an IV therapy cert though, and that can be invaluable, especially for hypovolemic shock, and rehydration in certain cases. Make the time to take the course if you are really concerned about your lack of skills.
2/10/2010 10:24:50 AM EDT
[#9]
HERE is the one I am hoping to take this year.
2/10/2010 10:43:55 AM EDT
[#10]
Getting EMT-Basic is worthwhile in itself, but it also opens all sorts of doors for advanced training. Running as a volunteer EMT is a great way to develop experience, and is a great 'in' with your local emergency management. Have you talked to your employer about possibly accommodating a class schedule?

Honestly, advanced skills are very perishable, and running on a rescue somewhere is about the only way to keep up on pre-hospital skills.

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2/10/2010 10:44:53 AM EDT
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Find the time to take an EMT 1A course at your local community college. You can take it as a night and weekend class if you need to. I did it nearly 30 years ago while working 2 jobs at about 60 hours/ week total. Not sure about today, but back then the class ran approx 120 hours. This will not get you an IV therapy cert though, and that can be invaluable, especially for hypovolemic shock, and rehydration in certain cases. Make the time to take the course if you are really concerned about your lack of skills.



Like I said, the college EMT classes are offered during the day on weekdays, and I have to work then so that is not an option. There are not any volunteer fire departments around me (I have already looked them up).  Thanks for the other links everyone.





 
2/10/2010 10:54:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Medical Corps

I've been thinking of going to this school.

They have some write-ups at SurvivalBlog.
2/10/2010 11:11:08 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Here are a couple of links for you to get started.

North American Resuce Products Training Videos

TacMedSolutions Training Blog

I do have a course for both LE and non-LE that goes of TCCC, the skill sets, human factors, etc.  I have provided training via webcast in the past and have limited availability to do so now.  It is difficult as having hands on with good training props is vital as well as evaluating the skills of the students to ensure they are doing the skills correctly (perfect practice make perfect).  I am doing this class at the West Virginia Pubic Safety Expo in May for those of you covered in snow right now.  

If there is significant interest in a webcast of this I can try to arrange something.  PM if you are interested.  My plan would be to break it down into 1 hour or so webcasts that can be recorded and viewed.  Again not sure if it will deliver the info needed the way I want it to be but it may be worth a shot.



Sent you an email.

2/10/2010 11:19:26 AM EDT
[#14]
The Academy of Health and Sciences has a pretty good one and wow you get paid while going to school there.
2/11/2010 6:30:18 AM EDT
[#15]
Make the time to take the course if it's important to you.  Books, videos, and instruction from friends will only take you so far.  You have to have experience putting your hands on patients, and working out problems under stress.  Clinical experience is VERY important, especially when making a diagnosis.

Imagine trying to learn to shoot without ever picking up a gun.
2/11/2010 9:37:20 AM EDT
[#16]
Combat Lifesaver course was a fun in BCT.
2/11/2010 11:20:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Don't waste your time with First Aid.  Go straight to First Responder, or better yet, Wilderness First Responder.  The latter is the same curriculum, but with more emphasis on operating further from definitive care, and with more improvisation in supplies.  This is what most of the survival discussions on here are about- being a long time or distance from help, and having limited resources.  Makes sense to take the class that addresses those aspects.  There are a few major training companies that host WFR classes nationwide.  Their schedules and prices may vary.  

In addition to WFR, look up Tactical Response's Immediate Action Medical class.  It travels, is two days, and is EXTREMELY informative, hands-on, and stressful.  It will teach you more than just monkey skills (skills you can teach a monkey), and will impart to you a broader base from which to extend your learning.  I have not yet heard from anyone who did not love the class, nor anyone who wasn't more interested in further medical education afterward.
2/11/2010 11:55:15 AM EDT
[#18]
One of the community colleges near me offers on online EMT-B online- you do all the class work online, then meet 1-2 Saturdays a month for the hands on.

People from all over the southeast take the program and drive in for the weekend classes.
2/11/2010 12:02:11 PM EDT
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One of the community colleges near me offers on online EMT-B- you do all the class work online, then meet 1-2 Saturdays a month for the hands on.

People from all over the southeast take the program and drive in for the weekend classes.


That is outstanding! An excellent way to build a good community base of advanced life support technicians that will benefit everyone!

2/11/2010 12:33:14 PM EDT
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One of the community colleges near me offers on online EMT-B online- you do all the class work online, then meet 1-2 Saturdays a month for the hands on.



People from all over the southeast take the program and drive in for the weekend classes.


I wish they did that in my area